Top Gear 2016 Official TV show thread *contains spoilers*

[hedgefinder]

if people are going to bleat on about radio 1 then please remember that the station only ever had one class act working for it in the past 25 years and that was

Mark and Lard

[KTF]

hedgefinder said:

if people are going to bleat on about radio 1 then please remember that the station only ever had one class act working for it in the past 25 years and that was

Mark and Lard

Oh yes. The clips of them at work still make me laugh now. Worked much better in the afternoons than the mornings though.

[Zad]

Mark and Lard, everything since is meh...

The boy Lardinho's walbum Classic Cuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkIqocn-JY



So there we are, Mark and Lard for Top Gear. Problem solved.

[r11co]

Back on topic for a minute - Evans couldn't have handed CHM better publicity for what everyone I am taking to is now referring to as 'the real Top Gear's premier.

I'm in Italy ATM where TG is shown on DMAX (alongside Wheeler Dealers, interestingly) and folk here are not interested in the Ginger Whinger BBC version of the show, and want to know when the two guys with the dodgy hair and the short chap with the dress sense (I kid you not) are back on.

Amazon are going to make a killing from selling the series on.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 13th July 16:41

[Quickmoose]

r11co said:

Back on topic for a minute - Evans couldn't have handed CHM better publicity for what everyone I am taking to is now referring to as 'the real Top Gear's premier.

I'm in Italy ATM where TG is shown on DMAX (alongside Wheeler Dealers, interestingly) and folk here are not interested in the Ginger Whinger BBC version of the show, and want to know when the two guys with the dodgy hair and the short chap with the dress sense (I kid you not) are back on.

Amazon are going to make a killing from selling the series on.

It is amazing how they draw the crowds being tall, Crap, fat and obnoxious, sHort and stupid, and utterly Misplaced.

[h0b0]

The BBC has been pushing Top Gear hard in the US. I believe it was the driving force behind MLB being chosen as a presenter. The US has no previous experience with Evans and still immediately hated him. His has a "undulating" tone that he is using to emphasize his point that is less pleasant than the dentist.

I have to say that before this season started MLB was my major concern. He had presented several TG specials and was terrible. It seams that he has turned that around and is now more natural in front of the camera. Chris Harris is getting a lot of love in the US. They just don't like his posture. He needs to be more comfortable in the studio and he could be accepted as co presenter.

[Guvernator]

r11co said:

Back on topic for a minute - Evans couldn't have handed CHM better publicity for what everyone I am taking to is now referring to as 'the real Top Gear's premier.

I'm in Italy ATM where TG is shown on DMAX (alongside Wheeler Dealers, interestingly) and folk here are not interested in the Ginger Whinger BBC version of the show, and want to know when the two guys with the dodgy hair and the short chap with the dress sense (I kid you not) are back on.

Amazon are going to make a killing from selling the series on.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 13th July 16:41

This tbh. We all liked a good moan about how hackneyed the old TG format was becoming but other countries will absolutely still lap it up. Whether that's due to our more sophisticated (or so we'd like to think) tastes or whether, as I more rightly suspect, the rest of the world is just a hell of a lot less cynical then we are is a matter for discussion but I reckon the old trio will do really well.

[LuS1fer]

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

[r11co]

h0b0 said:

The US has no previous experience with Evans and still immediately hated him.

Funny that. Evans is an enigma in that he has managed to keep a small but significant number of people believing that he had something great to offer the entertainment world. Punched above his weight several times, but his TG outing has exposed him for what he really was.

h0b0 said:

I have to say that before this season started MLB was my major concern. He had presented several TG specials and was terrible.

Me too. My opinion of him (as posted months back in here somewhere) was identical to yours.

h0b0 said:

It seams that he has turned that around and is now more natural in front of the camera. Chris Harris is getting a lot of love in the US. They just don't like his posture. He needs to be more comfortable in the studio and he could be accepted as co presenter.

Again, pretty much matches my analysis. TG is a global phenomenon and people need to see it in that light. Chris Evans' appeal has only ever been to a narrow section of the British audience - what dreamer involved in his failed tenure thought for a minute he stood a chance of being able to engage with Americans/Italians/Romanians/Poles/Indians/Russians and every other territory TG was syndicated to?!?!

[Quickmoose]

r11co said:

the same stuff ..again

wow, you really are his ex wife aren't you.
We get it, you dislike the guy's style and want(need) him to be seen in the correct light.
The majority of the UK (neh global) audience feel similar.
But few have are taken to repeat the same mantra at every and any opportunity...
Now that's he's jacked it in, I'm hoping you can shut up about him now...

I fear your feelings towards him lend you towards being held in the same regard as chipped 335, sausages in lawns etc... maybe that's your aim?

[AdeTuono]

r11co said:

h0b0 said:

The US has no previous experience with Evans and still immediately hated him.

Funny that. Evans is an enigma in that he has managed to keep a small but significant number of people believing that he had something great to offer the entertainment world. Punched above his weight several times, but his TG outing has exposed him for what he really was.

h0b0 said:

I have to say that before this season started MLB was my major concern. He had presented several TG specials and was terrible.

Me too. My opinion of him (as posted months back in here somewhere) was identical to yours.

h0b0 said:

It seams that he has turned that around and is now more natural in front of the camera. Chris Harris is getting a lot of love in the US. They just don't like his posture. He needs to be more comfortable in the studio and he could be accepted as co presenter.

Again, pretty much matches my analysis. TG is a global phenomenon and people need to see it in that light. Chris Evans' appeal has only ever been to a narrow section of the British audience - what dreamer involved in his failed tenure thought for a minute he stood a chance of being able to engage with Americans/Italians/Romanians/Poles/Indians/Russians and every other territory TG was syndicated to?!?!

Ring any bells r11co?

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[98elise]

LuS1fer said:

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

Have you got a link? If its true then have kept that very quiet. US figures are massively down, but I've not seen data from other countries.

Also bear in mind this series had a bigger budget, but only managed 6 shows rather than the normal 8. Straight off the bat they will only get 75% of the potential earnings.

Cash is the key to the future of the show, not how many CH fanboys inhabit PH

Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 13th July 19:07

Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 13th July 21:09

[simonrockman]

From Have I Got News For You..

[r11co]

AdeTuono said:

Ring any bells r11co?

My stalker's back! No basis to attack the argument anymore, but keep on attacking the messenger!

Guess it's just too difficult for you to admit I was correct.

Here's the rub though - it's annoying for those who had the foresight to predict what a horse's hunt Evans would make of the show to think of the millions pissed up the wall on producing his 'vision' of the show, the millions more he was paid for his failure and the millions still that will be lost due to the latest batch of the franchise being unsaleable abroad.

Yeah, stuff and nonsense

Edited by r11co on Thursday 14th July 06:39

[FiF]

98elise said:

LuS1fer said:

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

Have you got a link? If its true then have kept that very quiet. US figures are massively down, but I've not seen data from other countries.

Also bear in mind this series had a bigger budget, but only managed 6 shows rather than the normal 8. Straight off the bat they will only get 75% of the potential earnings.

Cash is the key to the future of the show, not how many CH fanboys inhabit PH

He's probably referring to this http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/chris...

[AdeTuono]

r11co said:

AdeTuono said:

Ring any bells r11co?

My stalker's back! No basis to attack the argument anymore, but keep on attacking the messenger!

Not at all. I just find it odd that you have such a hard-on for CE. Are you sure he didn't fk your mother?

[98elise]

FiF said:

98elise said:

LuS1fer said:

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

Have you got a link? If its true then have kept that very quiet. US figures are massively down, but I've not seen data from other countries.

Also bear in mind this series had a bigger budget, but only managed 6 shows rather than the normal 8. Straight off the bat they will only get 75% of the potential earnings.

Cash is the key to the future of the show, not how many CH fanboys inhabit PH

He's probably referring to this http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/chris...

It says it sold to more countries. I doubt it made more money though. 6 shows instead of 8 will mean me 25% less ad revenue. Factor in the falling viewing figures and the next season might be a difficult sell.

This season was trading on a name, and they fked it up. They need some real writers and some new idea's to turn it around. CE leaving is a good start, but it needs more.

[FiF]

98elise said:

FiF said:

98elise said:

LuS1fer said:

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

Have you got a link? If its true then have kept that very quiet. US figures are massively down, but I've not seen data from other countries.

Also bear in mind this series had a bigger budget, but only managed 6 shows rather than the normal 8. Straight off the bat they will only get 75% of the potential earnings.

Cash is the key to the future of the show, not how many CH fanboys inhabit PH

He's probably referring to this http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/chris...

It says it sold to more countries. I doubt it made more money though. 6 shows instead of 8 will mean me 25% less ad revenue. Factor in the falling viewing figures and the next season might be a difficult sell.

This season was trading on a name, and they fked it up. They need some real writers and some new idea's to turn it around. CE leaving is a good start, but it needs more.

Don't disagree with that, probably too early to compare financials, but at least it's not a commercial dead loss, yet.

Agree on the bring in more writers comment. I think the BBC didn't appreciate just what JC et al brought to the table there. Apart from the highly publicised goofs where they went over the top or lost the plot, eg India special, the writing and scripts are a class apart.

[Quickmoose]

FiF said:

Agree on the bring in more writers comment. I think the BBC didn't appreciate just what JC et al brought to the table there. the writing and scripts are a class apart.

That really is damning with faint praise.
"Clarkson" Top Gear had funny moments, but well scripted?? it was terrible!
The fact "Evans" Top Gear was worse, is one thing, but there isn't that much room below what went before...

[johnxjsc1985]

I watched the Ambulance episode last night and it still makes me chuckle. It had nothing to do with Cars or Ambulances for that matter and that's the problem for the New Top Gear that kind of stuff was unique to the Three of them .
I would be more than happy for a factual based Car programme but would that be a winner commercially for the BBC.
Colin Murray is out of a job.