Top Gear 2016 Official TV show thread *contains spoilers*

[Mr-B]

Sleb chef James ("formalee 1") Martin in talks with BBC to front TG, according to some papers.

[fridaypassion]

r11co said:

My stalker's back! No basis to attack the argument anymore, but keep on attacking the messenger!

Guess it's just too difficult for you to admit I was correct.

Here's the rub though - it's annoying for those who had the foresight to predict what a horse's hunt Evans would make of the show to think of the millions pissed up the wall on producing his 'vision' of the show, the millions more he was paid for his failure and the millions still that will be lost due to the latest batch of the franchise being unsaleable abroad.

Yeah, stuff and nonsense

Edited by r11co on Thursday 14th July 06:39

It transpired that new TG sold better overseas than old TG. It was just the UK press that doomed Evans to failure before the program went to air.

[Pesty]

Jesus h Christ the only man who could possibly be as bad as CE

fk sake when is the grand tour starting

[Cupramax]

Mr-B said:

Sleb chef James ("formalee 1") Martin in talks with BBC to front TG, according to some papers.

Jesus indeed, they dont learn do they. That will be the final nail in the coffin.

[Mr2Mike]

fridaypassion said:

It transpired that new TG sold better overseas than old TG. It was just the UK press that doomed Evans to failure before the program went to air.

Chris Evans doomed Chris Evans to failure.

Pesty said:

Jesus h Christ the only man who could possibly be as bad as CE

It seems all you need is a big slice of arrogance and an enormous ego to be considered for the job.

[poing]

I don't know why they need to hire anyone else, just use the remaining team with MLB as the front man and let the rest develop over time like the old team did. MLB, Harris and Reid should work quite well given a bit of free choice on challenges and time to get to know each other.

[Pesty]

poing said:

I don't know why they need to hire anyone else, just use the remaining team with MLB as the front man and let the rest develop over time like the old team did. MLB, Harris and Reid should work quite well given a bit of free choice on challenges and time to get to know each other.

Sounds good to me.

[FiF]

Pesty said:

Jesus h Christ the only man who could possibly be as bad as CE

fk sake when is the grand tour starting

Seconded.

[Smollet]

They can ditch SIARPC for a cook off.

[bodhi]

fridaypassion said:

It transpired that new TG sold better overseas than old TG. It was just the UK press that doomed Evans to failure before the program went to air.

No, it was doomed to failure as, odd film excepted, it was fking awful.

[Beati Dogu]

Evans is like Jonathan Woss. He's just about bearable when he's on his own, but put him with someone else and he starts showing off like hyperactive teenager on acid.

[MarshPhantom]

fridaypassion said:

r11co said:

My stalker's back! No basis to attack the argument anymore, but keep on attacking the messenger!

Guess it's just too difficult for you to admit I was correct.

Here's the rub though - it's annoying for those who had the foresight to predict what a horse's hunt Evans would make of the show to think of the millions pissed up the wall on producing his 'vision' of the show, the millions more he was paid for his failure and the millions still that will be lost due to the latest batch of the franchise being unsaleable abroad.

Yeah, stuff and nonsense

Edited by r11co on Thursday 14th July 06:39

It transpired that new TG sold better overseas than old TG. It was just the UK press that doomed Evans to failure before the program went to air.

Nice rewriting of history there.

[suffolk009]

If it is James Martin, I hope they did a screen test this time.

And please, hire some writers.

[GetCarter]

I read the article saying new TG was selling to more territories. According to the BBC it is now available in 130 territories.

Old Top Gear was (according to BBC) - selling to 217 territories.

hmmm.

[hairyben]

98elise said:

FiF said:

98elise said:

LuS1fer said:

Well a recent article I saw said that this series of TG has been a bigger cash cow than the old series.

Have you got a link? If its true then have kept that very quiet. US figures are massively down, but I've not seen data from other countries.

Also bear in mind this series had a bigger budget, but only managed 6 shows rather than the normal 8. Straight off the bat they will only get 75% of the potential earnings.

Cash is the key to the future of the show, not how many CH fanboys inhabit PH

He's probably referring to this http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/chris...

It says it sold to more countries. I doubt it made more money though. 6 shows instead of 8 will mean me 25% less ad revenue. Factor in the falling viewing figures and the next season might be a difficult sell.

This season was trading on a name, and they fked it up. They need some real writers and some new idea's to turn it around. CE leaving is a good start, but it needs more.

TBF the contracts would have been agreed based on the success of the previous series of top gear, on the assumption the bbc wouldn't sabotage it.

Viewing figures of that run and what the next series sells for are more indicative.

[carl_w]

suffolk009 said:

If it is James Martin, I hope they did a screen test this time.

And please, hire some writers.

Same mistake as CE -- he's a car guy bur not a car journalist.

[marshalla]

carl_w said:

suffolk009 said:

If it is James Martin, I hope they did a screen test this time.

And please, hire some writers.

Same mistake as CE -- he's a car guy bur not a car journalist.

OTOH he isn't a hyperactive child who bounces around screaming "look at meeeee! look how entertaining I am. I am!" all the time.

[MarshPhantom]

carl_w said:

suffolk009 said:

If it is James Martin, I hope they did a screen test this time.

And please, hire some writers.

Same mistake as CE -- he's a car guy bur not a car journalist.

No - he's a TV chef, Evans is a DJ. The BBC haven't learned much clearly.

[FiF]

MarshPhantom said:

carl_w said:

suffolk009 said:

If it is James Martin, I hope they did a screen test this time.

And please, hire some writers.

Same mistake as CE -- he's a car guy bur not a car journalist.

No - he's a TV chef, Evans is a DJ. The BBC haven't learned much clearly.

Whilst genuinely hoping they give Martin the bums rush on this, I suppose we are all judging him on his rather unpleasant attitude on the Mille Miglia documentary, but to be fair he was under pressure in an unfamiliar environment that was almost certainly costing him a lot of personal expense and rapidly going to hell in a handbasket.

And he comes across reasonably in his cheffy stuff, but then is he just another with a decent Tzv personal?

Significant point is above, he's a chef with a bit of TV experience, Clarkson is a car journalist and a writer, some might not like his style, but the basic ability is there with the drive to put the effort in to do it as well as he can. No doubt the accusations of JC fan boy will follow, not really as frankly he can be a bit of a tit, but one cannot ignore someone with ability to do a particular job well.

The problem is they need writers and, I suspect, they believe also need a star / name who is British. Going to struggle with that.

[Esseesse]

If the BBC want to continue making a programme with the 'Top Gear' name, they need to completely change the format and possibly also aim it at a different audience.