Top Gear 2016 Official TV show thread *contains spoilers*
Discussion
Zoobeef said:
hairyben said:
I thought the bumping looked a bit dodge TBH - did the old trio ever bump each other at anything more than manoeuvring speed?
They had better judgement and knowing precisely when to stop IMO - they did "silly" stuff but did they ever have anything as apparently disrespectful as the cenotaph incident? chris evans is like the tryhard kid who sees the cool kids doing something funny, dives in and copies to try to impress them but overdoes it.
Remind me again which bit was disrespectful? Or was that the papers forcing it on us?They had better judgement and knowing precisely when to stop IMO - they did "silly" stuff but did they ever have anything as apparently disrespectful as the cenotaph incident? chris evans is like the tryhard kid who sees the cool kids doing something funny, dives in and copies to try to impress them but overdoes it.
HD Adam said:
The New one will be on Amazon (or whatever) soon
It does make you wonder whether TG has stayed exactly the same in order to leave as little room as possible for the other three to carry on exactly as before.Who knows, perhaps they'll turn up with an anonymous driver in a blue suit and helmet called Timo?
Grandad Gaz said:
Chris Evans has a lot of female followers, mainly from his radio show. Clarkson, I believe had none.
Last Sunday was the first time my wife has ever watched Top Gear. She actually laughed a couple of times too, and yes, she is a CE fan!
Evans has a female following? Seriously? Have you seen him?Last Sunday was the first time my wife has ever watched Top Gear. She actually laughed a couple of times too, and yes, she is a CE fan!
My O/h conversely used to enjoy TG despite having no interest in cars and she can't stand Evans.
DonkeyApple said:
patmahe said:
Am I the only one who enjoyed it then? Maybe I'm easily pleased.
I did mute it during the SIARPC and did something else for a but, but then I've never liked Ramsay so didn't even give him a chance, I had hoped they'd drop that as it was the weakest part of the show in my opinion.
Matt Le Blanc was good I thought, entertaining, watchable, funny. I have been a big fan of the Nomad since I first saw it so it was interesting. A proper road test for once, mixed with some humour.
The Reliant thing could have been a lot better, they effectively just rejigged an older Top Gear episode, but it was funny in spots.
The show needs some more creativity and originality and Evans did grate as I feared he would. But there is the kernel of something there, if they can just nurture it and fix the issues.
I think I'm with you 100%. Overall watchable and with plenty of room for improvement. The most consistent element was the celebrity bit which just as it always has been remains a 5 minute slot to arrange a beer or glass of wine and a few nibbles then a pit stop. That was always a segment meant for the ladies or judging by the women they always manipulated to the front, the LazyBoy with tissue dispenser crowd. I did mute it during the SIARPC and did something else for a but, but then I've never liked Ramsay so didn't even give him a chance, I had hoped they'd drop that as it was the weakest part of the show in my opinion.
Matt Le Blanc was good I thought, entertaining, watchable, funny. I have been a big fan of the Nomad since I first saw it so it was interesting. A proper road test for once, mixed with some humour.
The Reliant thing could have been a lot better, they effectively just rejigged an older Top Gear episode, but it was funny in spots.
The show needs some more creativity and originality and Evans did grate as I feared he would. But there is the kernel of something there, if they can just nurture it and fix the issues.
I'm probably less of an Evans fan than I am of Clarkson and his silly baby talking voice and predictable, low brow writing but overall I enjoyed the hours worth of TV much as I used to the previous version and if I'm sitting in front of the TV at 8pm next Sunday then I will almost certainly watch it, just as I used to the previous three. The extra half hour online after is a bonus. Again, plenty of scope for improvement but watchable.
I do think people forget just how low brow and boring a hell of a lot of the show had become. The original three were clearly bored of it and schedules kept changing etc but there is no doubting that as a collective they did work brilliantly well and in sure the grand tour will be a good bit of TV also.
Ozzie Osmond said:
HD Adam said:
The New one will be on Amazon (or whatever) soon
It does make you wonder whether TG has stayed exactly the same in order to leave as little room as possible for the other three to carry on exactly as before.Who knows, perhaps they'll turn up with an anonymous driver in a blue suit and helmet called Timo?
I enjoyed bits of it - Other than a few cheesy scrip lines, MLB was very good (and looks like he can drive a bit). The Viper and Nomad were top cars to feature.
The bad bits for me were the silly laser bit in the Viper segment, and the chase sequences in the Nomad segment... both were unnecessary if they were going to run the US v UK piece as 'entertainment'.
CE... was always going to be a divisive choice. I've never really liked him and as many others have said, he was a bit too much last night. But it's his 1st show, so I'll give him a break until I see a few more of the series.
For me, the show needs to mature a bit... see how it develops.
The bad bits for me were the silly laser bit in the Viper segment, and the chase sequences in the Nomad segment... both were unnecessary if they were going to run the US v UK piece as 'entertainment'.
CE... was always going to be a divisive choice. I've never really liked him and as many others have said, he was a bit too much last night. But it's his 1st show, so I'll give him a break until I see a few more of the series.
For me, the show needs to mature a bit... see how it develops.
r11co said:
The change to a MINI and a rallycross course has change for change's sake written all over it (and as the BBC's own correspondent has said you could actually imagine the guests owning a MINI), and committee thinking misses the point and ruins the whole thing in the process.
It was the all new and exciting 'water splash' part that made my jaw drop. What was it - an inch and a half of water....?blasos said:
DonkeyApple said:
patmahe said:
Am I the only one who enjoyed it then? Maybe I'm easily pleased.
I did mute it during the SIARPC and did something else for a but, but then I've never liked Ramsay so didn't even give him a chance, I had hoped they'd drop that as it was the weakest part of the show in my opinion.
Matt Le Blanc was good I thought, entertaining, watchable, funny. I have been a big fan of the Nomad since I first saw it so it was interesting. A proper road test for once, mixed with some humour.
The Reliant thing could have been a lot better, they effectively just rejigged an older Top Gear episode, but it was funny in spots.
The show needs some more creativity and originality and Evans did grate as I feared he would. But there is the kernel of something there, if they can just nurture it and fix the issues.
I think I'm with you 100%. Overall watchable and with plenty of room for improvement. The most consistent element was the celebrity bit which just as it always has been remains a 5 minute slot to arrange a beer or glass of wine and a few nibbles then a pit stop. That was always a segment meant for the ladies or judging by the women they always manipulated to the front, the LazyBoy with tissue dispenser crowd. I did mute it during the SIARPC and did something else for a but, but then I've never liked Ramsay so didn't even give him a chance, I had hoped they'd drop that as it was the weakest part of the show in my opinion.
Matt Le Blanc was good I thought, entertaining, watchable, funny. I have been a big fan of the Nomad since I first saw it so it was interesting. A proper road test for once, mixed with some humour.
The Reliant thing could have been a lot better, they effectively just rejigged an older Top Gear episode, but it was funny in spots.
The show needs some more creativity and originality and Evans did grate as I feared he would. But there is the kernel of something there, if they can just nurture it and fix the issues.
I'm probably less of an Evans fan than I am of Clarkson and his silly baby talking voice and predictable, low brow writing but overall I enjoyed the hours worth of TV much as I used to the previous version and if I'm sitting in front of the TV at 8pm next Sunday then I will almost certainly watch it, just as I used to the previous three. The extra half hour online after is a bonus. Again, plenty of scope for improvement but watchable.
I do think people forget just how low brow and boring a hell of a lot of the show had become. The original three were clearly bored of it and schedules kept changing etc but there is no doubting that as a collective they did work brilliantly well and in sure the grand tour will be a good bit of TV also.
There was 10 of us watching, various ages from 15 to 50 and there's was lots of laughs
It's the 1st show of a new group. So the live audience bit I can understand it not being as good as the previous 3 after years of being together. It's takes time. Chris Evans looked nervous
Mat was really good in the pre done stuff. Looked new to live presenting, that's all.
The 2nd show has already been done so I don't expect anything different. But it will be interesting if they start taking it in a different direction in the future. Bit like new start wars movie, introduce new faces in a failure format. Take on board feedback and move forward.
A lot of the negative posts mention they turned off during the 1st segment. It's like people's minds we made up before watching.
I'd say we need to watch more than one episode before putting the knife in. It's a work in progress.
My impression was its not as good the best off the previous but it was better than previous worst. The new rally cross was good. Nomad was brilliant. exrra top gear was very good.
It has the potential to be very good.
After all it's has some amazing cars in amazing locations with great cinematography.
Things I liked:
- Rally-cross stage thing looks like a freshen up of the old SIARPC circuit, was getting slightly tedious in the former Top Gear and I reckon there could be some interesting laps on that.
- Matt LeBlanc has been on the big screen for years, the generation who watched Friends can relate to him and I think he's a genuinely good guy. He's knows a thing or two about comedy and timing and it was evident he was playing card a bit last night.
- They had quite a bit of content. There was the blue Viper thing, the Reliants, the SIARPC, Ariel Nomad and then second part with the Jeep and Land Rover. Occasionally I used to think that former Top Gear was running out of things to do when all the whole show would feature was a supercar segment, SIARPC, then a second supercar segment
Things I didn't like:
- The format of SIAPRC. It sounded and looked like a badly scripted interview written by school kids. Saying "This is whoever the f
k it was, sat on my left, sat on my right, is a chef or got pushed over on a football field" clearly reading from a teleprompter, it was just awful. Evans had absolutely zero chemistry with either guest, luckily Eisenburger or whoever it was could bring a bit of humour to it but Ramsey just sat there from what I could tell. Neither got a chance to recite an amusing story or make a name for themselves, Evans was too busy sat in Clarksons seat trying to guess what sort of Porsche one of them had.
- Chris Evans voiceovers. It was clear to anyone or anything living that he was attempting to imitate Clarkson. Shows he has little confidence in himself and that he must follow in JC's footsteps to attract an audience.
- Chris Evans shouting. When he is so marmite, shouting seems a dangerous game to play, especially so early on in his TG career.
- Chris Evans jumping about. I just don't get it, I just assume he is overly excited to be hosting Top Gear. It's the result of many many hard years of work from Clarkson, Hammond, May and Wilman, now in the hands of Evans. He's literally like a kid in a sweet shop, he can't control himself. It's embarassing to watch, something you've seen mature over the years with the old team now being torn to shreds by a guy who simply isn't down to Earth.
Overall, I thought it was 5/10. That's five points for Matt LeBlanc and none for Chris Evans. I'll watch it next week to see whether Evans has calmed down a bit but I can't see him surviving another 22 series' of Top Gear, or perhaps I should say I can't see Top Gear surviving another 22 series' with Evans involved.
I can't wait for the Grand Tour to start and have the boys back doing what they do best, just without the BBC interfering.
- Rally-cross stage thing looks like a freshen up of the old SIARPC circuit, was getting slightly tedious in the former Top Gear and I reckon there could be some interesting laps on that.
- Matt LeBlanc has been on the big screen for years, the generation who watched Friends can relate to him and I think he's a genuinely good guy. He's knows a thing or two about comedy and timing and it was evident he was playing card a bit last night.
- They had quite a bit of content. There was the blue Viper thing, the Reliants, the SIARPC, Ariel Nomad and then second part with the Jeep and Land Rover. Occasionally I used to think that former Top Gear was running out of things to do when all the whole show would feature was a supercar segment, SIARPC, then a second supercar segment
Things I didn't like:
- The format of SIAPRC. It sounded and looked like a badly scripted interview written by school kids. Saying "This is whoever the f
k it was, sat on my left, sat on my right, is a chef or got pushed over on a football field" clearly reading from a teleprompter, it was just awful. Evans had absolutely zero chemistry with either guest, luckily Eisenburger or whoever it was could bring a bit of humour to it but Ramsey just sat there from what I could tell. Neither got a chance to recite an amusing story or make a name for themselves, Evans was too busy sat in Clarksons seat trying to guess what sort of Porsche one of them had. - Chris Evans voiceovers. It was clear to anyone or anything living that he was attempting to imitate Clarkson. Shows he has little confidence in himself and that he must follow in JC's footsteps to attract an audience.
- Chris Evans shouting. When he is so marmite, shouting seems a dangerous game to play, especially so early on in his TG career.
- Chris Evans jumping about. I just don't get it, I just assume he is overly excited to be hosting Top Gear. It's the result of many many hard years of work from Clarkson, Hammond, May and Wilman, now in the hands of Evans. He's literally like a kid in a sweet shop, he can't control himself. It's embarassing to watch, something you've seen mature over the years with the old team now being torn to shreds by a guy who simply isn't down to Earth.
Overall, I thought it was 5/10. That's five points for Matt LeBlanc and none for Chris Evans. I'll watch it next week to see whether Evans has calmed down a bit but I can't see him surviving another 22 series' of Top Gear, or perhaps I should say I can't see Top Gear surviving another 22 series' with Evans involved.
I can't wait for the Grand Tour to start and have the boys back doing what they do best, just without the BBC interfering.
Cobnapint said:
r11co said:
The change to a MINI and a rallycross course has change for change's sake written all over it (and as the BBC's own correspondent has said you could actually imagine the guests owning a MINI), and committee thinking misses the point and ruins the whole thing in the process.
It was the all new and exciting 'water splash' part that made my jaw drop. What was it - an inch and a half of water....?Went off to iplayer to watch TG earlier. Not good, the totally false North Korean party congress audience throws things to me, on totally the wrong foot. I blow hot and cold in regard to CE , but trying to mimic Clarkson is just a dead end.
So far , I'm undecided as to which of 2 four letter words most accurately describes what I watched, either "dire" or "naff" ., decisons , decisions!
I tried to watch Extra gear , but did not get past the North Korean audience and the totally false presenter "greetings" and enthusiasm . I was in no mood to suffer more Dire, or was it naff, viewing?
I'll make the effort to watch a couple more episodes, but I'll not hold my breath . There are two silver linings in the cloud though, I'm letting my BBC license lapse later this year , so more cash to spend on what I actually want to see,plus I'm a prime subscriber , so much to look forward too.
So far , I'm undecided as to which of 2 four letter words most accurately describes what I watched, either "dire" or "naff" ., decisons , decisions!
I tried to watch Extra gear , but did not get past the North Korean audience and the totally false presenter "greetings" and enthusiasm . I was in no mood to suffer more Dire, or was it naff, viewing?
I'll make the effort to watch a couple more episodes, but I'll not hold my breath . There are two silver linings in the cloud though, I'm letting my BBC license lapse later this year , so more cash to spend on what I actually want to see,plus I'm a prime subscriber , so much to look forward too.
As we allt is quite easy to find fault and spot errors but impossible to please everyone, people are moaning because the format is too similar and others that changes have been made just for making changes!
In two years time people will still be moaning about TG whatever route it takes.
In two years time people will still be moaning about TG whatever route it takes.
Truckosaurus said:
thatguy11 said:
...mentioned Ohlins dampers during his (brilliant) Ariel Nomad lap...
I wonder if the BBC3 show has different regulations than the BBC2 one, so Harris could mention brand names of the dampers, and during the Sabine house tour Reid was shamelessly drinking a bottle of her sponsor's beer.The beer drinking is a little more shaky but in context they were visiting one of the presenters homes/businesses it had a bar, in that bar they had a bottle of beer. I don't think ofcom will care.
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