Top Gear 2016 Official TV show thread *contains spoilers*
Discussion
carl_w said:
don4l said:
I doubt it.
In two years time we will have forgotten about Top Gear.
The audience figures were appalling last night. They will clearly drop over the coming weeks.
I didn't bother to watch it last night, but from what I can gather, Chris Evans was a complete disaster. The reason that I didn't watch it is that I cannot stand Evans.
Prediction based on no data?In two years time we will have forgotten about Top Gear.
The audience figures were appalling last night. They will clearly drop over the coming weeks.
I didn't bother to watch it last night, but from what I can gather, Chris Evans was a complete disaster. The reason that I didn't watch it is that I cannot stand Evans.
just watched it. I enjoyed the Ariel segment, think Matt Le Blanc could be pretty decent, he's got quite a dry delivery which works well.
thought the star in a rallycross car, whatever it's called, has got some legs in it with the right guests...just a pity Chris Evans has to be talking too
thought the star in a rallycross car, whatever it's called, has got some legs in it with the right guests...just a pity Chris Evans has to be talking too
Errr ....right, i think we're all entitled to our opinions but describing someone as a 'slightly rapey geography teacher' suddenly elevates you to being a weird fker to be honest.
My own view is CE is genuinely so self convinced of his own genius he actually marched into the studio believing he could be a better Clarkson than the original. The combination of shouting Clarksonisms, Austin Powersisms (the 'yeah baby' bit in the ACR made my skin crawl) and just coming over as moderatly unhinged just made the whole thing very uncomfortable to watch
My own view is CE is genuinely so self convinced of his own genius he actually marched into the studio believing he could be a better Clarkson than the original. The combination of shouting Clarksonisms, Austin Powersisms (the 'yeah baby' bit in the ACR made my skin crawl) and just coming over as moderatly unhinged just made the whole thing very uncomfortable to watch
technodup said:
Snoggledog said:
Although Chris Harris is relatively unknown (apart from internet audiences) I suspect that he would be a good replacement for Chris Evans.
Well they'd have fewer complaints because everyone would be asleep.The main presenter needs to have personality. Evans has too much for a lot of people. Harris has none. Chris Harris is not a prime time TV presenter and never will be.
r11co said:
Snoggledog said:
Why does Chris Evans think he's some sort of magic bullet to recover or reinvigorate tired programmes?
Edited that for you.It'll come out in the wash. Evans tweeting viewing stats like a Sun reader commentard is just the beginning.
Nik da Greek said:
Given that I seem to be in a minority and actually really enjoyed the main show, and based primarily on the feedback on here, I made the mistake of watching that TopExtra or BonusGear or whatever the smeg it's called on BBCII! ...or BBC Three as it used to be called before it was an internet thing.
What a load of st
Everything the "real" programme isn't; poorly filmed, no storyline, no dynamic between presenters, no nuttin'. Ten minutes wasted on "zany" Sabine Schmitz's indescribably naff homestead thing... like a Disney Princess Real ol' Wile West Ranch... and like who actually gives a fduk? Show us Evans' garage of unobtanium Ferraris and I might give a damn, but some random German's collection of pigs? Nahh, no thanks
And as for Chris Harris, well I realise on here it's close to heresy,given how many incumbents cream their panties over the guy, but what an inbred-sounding freak. Now it's plain to see why his "presenting" has been solely confined to the internet because he ought to come with a sign round his neck reading "does not play well with others". He sat there like an over-pedantic ... and to be brutally honest, slightly rapey... geography teacher who's a bit unsure how to interact with other living humans because he's never actually had the chance before. Ironic he should drag out a "blinking into the sunlight" analogy. That spurious Geordie comedian seemed to be sat there wondering why the hell he'd agreed to the most pointless and tokenistic of appearances just to have the piss taken out of him by someone apparently making their first foray into face-to-face interaction. As for the token presenter Geezah to whom every car is (irritatingly) "solid", ten minutes after it finished I can't even remember his name. I'm glad it's only online or Catch-up TV cos that makes it, rather like Clarkson's detestable mob, all the easier to ignore.
Bucket of festering wk. Guess it's easy to see why they left it online, where the fanbois will seek it out regardless, but didn't dare put it on telly where normal people will be thinking "I thought this sort of half-arsed drivel went out of style with Nozin' Around.
Blimey, proof positive we all like different things. I rarely completely disagree with every single part of another post but there's a first time for everything.What a load of st
Everything the "real" programme isn't; poorly filmed, no storyline, no dynamic between presenters, no nuttin'. Ten minutes wasted on "zany" Sabine Schmitz's indescribably naff homestead thing... like a Disney Princess Real ol' Wile West Ranch... and like who actually gives a fduk? Show us Evans' garage of unobtanium Ferraris and I might give a damn, but some random German's collection of pigs? Nahh, no thanks
And as for Chris Harris, well I realise on here it's close to heresy,given how many incumbents cream their panties over the guy, but what an inbred-sounding freak. Now it's plain to see why his "presenting" has been solely confined to the internet because he ought to come with a sign round his neck reading "does not play well with others". He sat there like an over-pedantic ... and to be brutally honest, slightly rapey... geography teacher who's a bit unsure how to interact with other living humans because he's never actually had the chance before. Ironic he should drag out a "blinking into the sunlight" analogy. That spurious Geordie comedian seemed to be sat there wondering why the hell he'd agreed to the most pointless and tokenistic of appearances just to have the piss taken out of him by someone apparently making their first foray into face-to-face interaction. As for the token presenter Geezah to whom every car is (irritatingly) "solid", ten minutes after it finished I can't even remember his name. I'm glad it's only online or Catch-up TV cos that makes it, rather like Clarkson's detestable mob, all the easier to ignore.
Bucket of festering wk. Guess it's easy to see why they left it online, where the fanbois will seek it out regardless, but didn't dare put it on telly where normal people will be thinking "I thought this sort of half-arsed drivel went out of style with Nozin' Around.
The main show was excruciating, rarely amusing let alone funny and has a long way to go if it's going to recover - but early days. Clarkson and mates had great chemistry
The Extra show was massively better, much more relaxed , all about cars (Hooray) and has real potential. It was effectively a longer version of the old news section with a quick Harris track piece. Harris didn't present , he acted as the expert foil to the new guy, who I thought was very good.
Sabines home is odd but we had 1 minute, not 10 on it, the rest was about her race team stuff. It was a 23 minute program, needs longer
C70R said:
HoHoHo said:
I didn't and won't watch it
Yet you still felt the need to post on the thread to tell us all? Hilarious attention-seeking! Perhaps you can clarify as your comment had nothing to do with TG (which for clarification the thread was about) but you still felt the need to quote and reply.
Now that's attention seeking at it's best
HoHoHo said:
It's a thread about Top Gear and isn't exclusive to those who watched it as far as I'm aware?
Perhaps you can clarify as your comment had nothing to do with TG (which for clarification the thread was about) but you still felt the need to quote and reply.
Now that's attention seeking at it's best
You won't be watching purely because you have a dislike of Evans? What about the rest of the content?Perhaps you can clarify as your comment had nothing to do with TG (which for clarification the thread was about) but you still felt the need to quote and reply.
Now that's attention seeking at it's best
anonymous said:
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Ahhh, I see. I thought you'd started to write "Prissy" but dyslexia and disinterest had intervened. Weirdly, I've lived in the South of England all my life and know literally no-one who talks like that. By "that" I mean "ooooh....awkward" and "euwww... sanctimonious"oddball1313 said:
Errr ....right, i think we're all entitled to our opinions but describing someone as a 'slightly rapey geography teacher' suddenly elevates you to being a weird fker to be honest.
My own view is CE is genuinely so self convinced of his own genius he actually marched into the studio believing he could be a better Clarkson than the original. The combination of shouting Clarksonisms, Austin Powersisms (the 'yeah baby' bit in the ACR made my skin crawl) and just coming over as moderatly unhinged just made the whole thing very uncomfortable to watch
Eh? So I'm a weird fker but you are completely normal for being able to psychically divine another human's agenda through absorbing their personality via the magic screen? Wow, are you actually David Icke?My own view is CE is genuinely so self convinced of his own genius he actually marched into the studio believing he could be a better Clarkson than the original. The combination of shouting Clarksonisms, Austin Powersisms (the 'yeah baby' bit in the ACR made my skin crawl) and just coming over as moderatly unhinged just made the whole thing very uncomfortable to watch
(EDIT for the hard of thinking in the audience; It's called imagery, btw. A means of painting a verbal picture to convey a description of something without having to write a 1000-word essay to do it. Clearly I don't believe Chris Harris to be either a geography teacher or, for that matter, rapey in real life. I'm sure he's lovely, great with kids and doesn't even know what the capital of Kyrgyzstan is)
This is fun, it's like being an actual PHer. Grrrrr! HATE! RAGE! Argumentativeness for the sake of it!
Just watched Extra Gear, which they're showing on Monday night here in Ireland. Quite liked it, think that Reid guy did a good job, plus I'm a self-confessed Harris fan now for years. A few polite suggestions though if I may:
- Extend EG to an hour segment, with longer reviews of the cars
- Ban Evans from this extra show, although I'd allow Sabine as she seems a lot less annoying when not responsible for all the humour
- Reschedule to a Sunday evening, perhaps at 8pm (I can see a gap appearing on BBC2 there soon anyway)
As for the main show:
- Drop all pretence of being about cars
- Perhaps put Evans behind a desk to stop him running about like a maniac
- Reschedule for a Friday night, when beverages have taken hold to help filter out the shouting
- Extend the interview segments to nearly the full hour. Maybe they could have your man from Friends on to discuss his new series in the first episode
- Not sure what they might call it yet. Maybe "TFI Friday (and I'm in the pub instead)"
- Flog "Top Gear" name to highest bidder, aka Amazon, for $500M
- Extend EG to an hour segment, with longer reviews of the cars
- Ban Evans from this extra show, although I'd allow Sabine as she seems a lot less annoying when not responsible for all the humour
- Reschedule to a Sunday evening, perhaps at 8pm (I can see a gap appearing on BBC2 there soon anyway)
As for the main show:
- Drop all pretence of being about cars
- Perhaps put Evans behind a desk to stop him running about like a maniac
- Reschedule for a Friday night, when beverages have taken hold to help filter out the shouting
- Extend the interview segments to nearly the full hour. Maybe they could have your man from Friends on to discuss his new series in the first episode
- Not sure what they might call it yet. Maybe "TFI Friday (and I'm in the pub instead)"
- Flog "Top Gear" name to highest bidder, aka Amazon, for $500M
Dblue said:
Nik da Greek said:
Given that I seem to be in a minority and actually really enjoyed the main show, and based primarily on the feedback on here, I made the mistake of watching that TopExtra or BonusGear or whatever the smeg it's called on BBCII! ...or BBC Three as it used to be called before it was an internet thing.
What a load of st
Everything the "real" programme isn't; poorly filmed, no storyline, no dynamic between presenters, no nuttin'. Ten minutes wasted on "zany" Sabine Schmitz's indescribably naff homestead thing... like a Disney Princess Real ol' Wile West Ranch... and like who actually gives a fduk? Show us Evans' garage of unobtanium Ferraris and I might give a damn, but some random German's collection of pigs? Nahh, no thanks
And as for Chris Harris, well I realise on here it's close to heresy,given how many incumbents cream their panties over the guy, but what an inbred-sounding freak. Now it's plain to see why his "presenting" has been solely confined to the internet because he ought to come with a sign round his neck reading "does not play well with others". He sat there like an over-pedantic ... and to be brutally honest, slightly rapey... geography teacher who's a bit unsure how to interact with other living humans because he's never actually had the chance before. Ironic he should drag out a "blinking into the sunlight" analogy. That spurious Geordie comedian seemed to be sat there wondering why the hell he'd agreed to the most pointless and tokenistic of appearances just to have the piss taken out of him by someone apparently making their first foray into face-to-face interaction. As for the token presenter Geezah to whom every car is (irritatingly) "solid", ten minutes after it finished I can't even remember his name. I'm glad it's only online or Catch-up TV cos that makes it, rather like Clarkson's detestable mob, all the easier to ignore.
Bucket of festering wk. Guess it's easy to see why they left it online, where the fanbois will seek it out regardless, but didn't dare put it on telly where normal people will be thinking "I thought this sort of half-arsed drivel went out of style with Nozin' Around.
Blimey, proof positive we all like different things. I rarely completely disagree with every single part of another post but there's a first time for everything.What a load of st
Everything the "real" programme isn't; poorly filmed, no storyline, no dynamic between presenters, no nuttin'. Ten minutes wasted on "zany" Sabine Schmitz's indescribably naff homestead thing... like a Disney Princess Real ol' Wile West Ranch... and like who actually gives a fduk? Show us Evans' garage of unobtanium Ferraris and I might give a damn, but some random German's collection of pigs? Nahh, no thanks
And as for Chris Harris, well I realise on here it's close to heresy,given how many incumbents cream their panties over the guy, but what an inbred-sounding freak. Now it's plain to see why his "presenting" has been solely confined to the internet because he ought to come with a sign round his neck reading "does not play well with others". He sat there like an over-pedantic ... and to be brutally honest, slightly rapey... geography teacher who's a bit unsure how to interact with other living humans because he's never actually had the chance before. Ironic he should drag out a "blinking into the sunlight" analogy. That spurious Geordie comedian seemed to be sat there wondering why the hell he'd agreed to the most pointless and tokenistic of appearances just to have the piss taken out of him by someone apparently making their first foray into face-to-face interaction. As for the token presenter Geezah to whom every car is (irritatingly) "solid", ten minutes after it finished I can't even remember his name. I'm glad it's only online or Catch-up TV cos that makes it, rather like Clarkson's detestable mob, all the easier to ignore.
Bucket of festering wk. Guess it's easy to see why they left it online, where the fanbois will seek it out regardless, but didn't dare put it on telly where normal people will be thinking "I thought this sort of half-arsed drivel went out of style with Nozin' Around.
The main show was excruciating, rarely amusing let alone funny and has a long way to go if it's going to recover - but early days. Clarkson and mates had great chemistry
The Extra show was massively better, much more relaxed , all about cars (Hooray) and has real potential. It was effectively a longer version of the old news section with a quick Harris track piece. Harris didn't present , he acted as the expert foil to the new guy, who I thought was very good.
Sabines home is odd but we had 1 minute, not 10 on it, the rest was about her race team stuff. It was a 23 minute program, needs longer
Anyone remember the old version of Extra top gear with that northern tt Steve Berry (yes I know I'm northern, he is an embarrassment) and Vicky butler-all I can do is cackle and squeal? What was that called?
Digger said:
HoHoHo said:
It's a thread about Top Gear and isn't exclusive to those who watched it as far as I'm aware?
Perhaps you can clarify as your comment had nothing to do with TG (which for clarification the thread was about) but you still felt the need to quote and reply.
Now that's attention seeking at it's best
You won't be watching purely because you have a dislike of Evans? What about the rest of the content?Perhaps you can clarify as your comment had nothing to do with TG (which for clarification the thread was about) but you still felt the need to quote and reply.
Now that's attention seeking at it's best
My dislike of Evans has been confirmed by those who watched the show. He's loud, brash and has an overinflated opinion of himself. The other presenters don't excite me either, for example what is Eddie Jordan going to add to the show....I've no idea?
In short, I think the BBC have lost the opportunity to revamp the show. Sure we can all continue to watch Clarkson on Amazon if that's what floats yer boat, however the BBC head of whatever should have been a little bit brighter on this occasion.
Edited by HoHoHo on Monday 30th May 22:05
DanielSan said:
Has no one else thought that the first episode may have been more than an element of piss taking out of the old TG? Just a thought....
I think it was meant as a bit of a respectful tribute to the greatness that went before - but it came across as a bit of a pathetic attempt at copying.I wonder if CE and Lord Hall are wondering why the hell they bothered. Most of us on here were moaning about how the previous TG had become childish and unfunny. If ever there was an opportunity to increase the reading age of it, this was it. But they didn't bother.
Has anybody on here follow Clarkson on Twitter...? Be interesting to see if he's commented yet.
Edited by Cobnapint on Monday 30th May 22:22
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