Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS
Discussion
Mr Snrub said:
Quite impressed by Varys' teleporting skills as well!
Seems like weeks/months passed on the Dany storyline in 10 mins, guess they had to rush it into the end of the season. Although the reason for showing Varys on the boat, which I only just caught, is that he'd returned with the Dorn and Tyrell fleets (you could see their banners on the ships). I think Arya made the face there, it was the same face as the serving girl eyeing up Jamie, could have been Ayra trying to get closer to him. She would have the opportunity to poison him but revenge and they knowing it's revenge would preclude that.
Interestingly, I think Jamie was interested in the serving girl and was eyeing her up in return, he was then stoney faced at the coronation, so Cersei grip on him is definitely slipping. It would be very easy for Cersei to paint the destruction of the temple as an act of the gods for the heresy of the sparrow to the people. I don't see how she can possibly expect to stand militarily with the loss of Tyrell support. We are seeing the begging of the 'wildfire madness' thing in her.
Wish we had seen more of Ayra's revenge. Edmure was back in a cell, has/will she free him?
Sansa behaved just as I expected, did like their scene, but a little surprise Jon sidelined her again so quickly and took the easy wayout regarding Melisandre. Ned's son would have executed her, but I think she must be essential to the further story.
There is a child Lady Mormont, no why not an adult Lady Stark?
I think Lady Mormont has a crush on Jon.
Thronecast said Lyanna Stark was prisoner for a year, but can't recall seeing this on screen. The amount of time as prisoner would give a solid indication of the father since she seemingly died in childbirth.
Also last week in Battle of the b
ds, in Sansa/Jon strategy meeting, there is moment where I think Sansa is about to tell Jon something, presumable about the Knights of the Vale and he cuts her off.
Interestingly, I think Jamie was interested in the serving girl and was eyeing her up in return, he was then stoney faced at the coronation, so Cersei grip on him is definitely slipping. It would be very easy for Cersei to paint the destruction of the temple as an act of the gods for the heresy of the sparrow to the people. I don't see how she can possibly expect to stand militarily with the loss of Tyrell support. We are seeing the begging of the 'wildfire madness' thing in her.
Wish we had seen more of Ayra's revenge. Edmure was back in a cell, has/will she free him?
Sansa behaved just as I expected, did like their scene, but a little surprise Jon sidelined her again so quickly and took the easy wayout regarding Melisandre. Ned's son would have executed her, but I think she must be essential to the further story.
There is a child Lady Mormont, no why not an adult Lady Stark?
I think Lady Mormont has a crush on Jon.
Thronecast said Lyanna Stark was prisoner for a year, but can't recall seeing this on screen. The amount of time as prisoner would give a solid indication of the father since she seemingly died in childbirth.
Also last week in Battle of the b
ds, in Sansa/Jon strategy meeting, there is moment where I think Sansa is about to tell Jon something, presumable about the Knights of the Vale and he cuts her off.Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 28th June 08:49
That's just Aryas "enjoying the strange spectacle of watching people bleed to death in front of me" face. Watch her when she killed the guy who stole needle or when she murdered her first "man" leaving the red wedding and she has the same expression- just watching people die.
By the end of her list she is going to be totally unable to relate to ordinary people, she'll be a full blown psycho
. Like the Hound said- killing is the sweetest thing there is!
Cersei has a mini-orgasm when she witnesses horrible violence, too. She did it watching the explosion but also when the mountain killed the sparrow and IIRC, when she watched Oberyn die. You can see her chest heave and a grimace as she tries to supress a smile.
Love it. Love all these characters with their completed arc from Loras to Jon. Whoever could have seen anyone ending up where they are and who they are in season one, they've all grown so much!
By the end of her list she is going to be totally unable to relate to ordinary people, she'll be a full blown psycho
. Like the Hound said- killing is the sweetest thing there is!Cersei has a mini-orgasm when she witnesses horrible violence, too. She did it watching the explosion but also when the mountain killed the sparrow and IIRC, when she watched Oberyn die. You can see her chest heave and a grimace as she tries to supress a smile.
Love it. Love all these characters with their completed arc from Loras to Jon. Whoever could have seen anyone ending up where they are and who they are in season one, they've all grown so much!
Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 28th June 00:41
Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 28th June 00:43
4x4Tyke said:
I don't think the Mountain killed her, pretty sure the intention was to torture her for a very long time.
looked like he was going to do what he did to Elia Martell. just thinking back to D's vision in the house of the undying. Snow and the wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulVUWrADCM
Edited by The Spruce goose on Tuesday 28th June 05:43
Dorne and Highgarden have always hated each other as they are close neighbours and therefore traditional enemies, for them both to be on the same side supporting Danny is VERY bad news for Cersei! Turning on the Tyrells was just stupid, their resources was the ONLY reason the Lannisters still held on to power. What have they got left? 10,000 men if that?
I thought Dany making Tyrion Hand of the Queen was a lovely touch, I really think she has the makings of a great ruler.
Lady Mormont once again stole the show
someone asked why if there was a Lady Mormont why can't there be a Lady Stark. The Mormonts are an anomaly among great houses in the North in that the women can inherit, doesn't mean it would translate well to the Starks.
Littlefinger's problem is he is still just a nobody. The Vale Knights have sworn for Jon and the North, how much influence can he have over them now? I can't see him standing up to Dany, political maneuvering and bribery won't do much good against three dragons and a dothraki horde! As for marrying Dany, what has he got to offer? Money? She's got two of the richest houses in Westeros on her side.
So we now know that Jon is Lyanna's son, I'm wondering if we will find out about his Targaryen heritage because Littlefinger has his tent burnt with him in it or something as an assassination attempt, only for Jon to emerge unscathed.....
I thought Dany making Tyrion Hand of the Queen was a lovely touch, I really think she has the makings of a great ruler.
Lady Mormont once again stole the show
someone asked why if there was a Lady Mormont why can't there be a Lady Stark. The Mormonts are an anomaly among great houses in the North in that the women can inherit, doesn't mean it would translate well to the Starks.Littlefinger's problem is he is still just a nobody. The Vale Knights have sworn for Jon and the North, how much influence can he have over them now? I can't see him standing up to Dany, political maneuvering and bribery won't do much good against three dragons and a dothraki horde! As for marrying Dany, what has he got to offer? Money? She's got two of the richest houses in Westeros on her side.
So we now know that Jon is Lyanna's son, I'm wondering if we will find out about his Targaryen heritage because Littlefinger has his tent burnt with him in it or something as an assassination attempt, only for Jon to emerge unscathed.....
It was a fking excellent episode
Exactly, pretty much, as I wanted it bar a couple of disappointments but... The rest of it more than made up for it
Score was amazing
Varys & Lady Tyrell seem to travel in time
And how quickly did the news of the Tyrell deaths get to Dorne? It's not like anyone in KL with Ravens was left to really think to send them a note
king excellent episodeExactly, pretty much, as I wanted it bar a couple of disappointments but... The rest of it more than made up for it
Score was amazing
Varys & Lady Tyrell seem to travel in time
And how quickly did the news of the Tyrell deaths get to Dorne? It's not like anyone in KL with Ravens was left to really think to send them a note
JackThrust said:
Littlefinger's problem is he is still just a nobody. The Vale Knights have sworn for Jon and the North, how much influence can he have over them now? I can't see him standing up to Dany, political maneuvering and bribery won't do much good against three dragons and a dothraki horde! As for marrying Dany, what has he got to offer? Money? She's got two of the richest houses in Westeros on her side.
I was thinking the same last night. The Vale Knights do as Robyn Arryn says, he's Sansa's cousin and easily manipulated. After that, who are his friends? Has he burnt bridges with the Lanisters? They're doomed, Boltons are gone, he's never been 'in' with Dorne or the Tyrells and Varys knows he's not to be trusted, so he won't be a friend of Dany's.Stuggling to see how this plays out for him. But he always has a scheme running.
Such a well done episode. The director deserves much praise. The whole first sequence in KL and the way the score followed the events unfolding all the way through.
Just brilliant.
Also the scene where Sam walks through the library into the main chamber and looks in awe at everything there - the camera shot and accompanying score really seemed like a scene from a movie, let alone a TV show.
So much happened, even if a lot of it was predicted, it was so satisfying. Tommen's death was good, in the way that a lot of people sort of knew the Wildfire thing was going to happen, and maybe Cersei was really going to get everything she wanted, so for her son to jump to his death after seeing what had happened was a nice twist.
Just brilliant.
Also the scene where Sam walks through the library into the main chamber and looks in awe at everything there - the camera shot and accompanying score really seemed like a scene from a movie, let alone a TV show.
So much happened, even if a lot of it was predicted, it was so satisfying. Tommen's death was good, in the way that a lot of people sort of knew the Wildfire thing was going to happen, and maybe Cersei was really going to get everything she wanted, so for her son to jump to his death after seeing what had happened was a nice twist.
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