Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS
Discussion
olliethehut said:
9/10 from me due lack of boobage.
Plus we'll never get to see Margery do the walk of shame :-(
Agree the score was excellent tho.
It wasn't a long scene but Grand Maester Pycelle had a naked lady of the night on his bed. I think you can now push that to a 9.9/10 Plus we'll never get to see Margery do the walk of shame :-(
Agree the score was excellent tho.
It's really interesting that we have Cersei on the throne now. Completely unexpected and I've no idea where that will go. I've also no idea if there is any wildfire left after that explosion, Aerys must have had other stocks leftover elsewhere in KL. Presumably there will be a few side candidates rear their heads saying the throne should be theirs.
I must say though, they've really set up the King in the North, Jon and Daenerys to be married. All this leaving Daario behind and talking of marriage to gain alliances. Uniting the North and South (Sand Snakes, Tyrells etc. From the South and Jon uniting the North) to take over KL looks plausible, especially if Dany lands in Castely Rock and takes that over battering the Lannisters and taking their homeland. It'll be tough to take that via land or sea though, a lot will die in that battle, should they fight and not surrender.
Then it's a swift ride North to smash Euron and take his ships, proclaiming Yara as Queen of the Iron Isles.
It just can't be that simple though. Dany will have to suffer in some way, she can't just take the throne and marry Jon, it's too much of a good ending for GRRM.
Baelish as well, the slimy f
k. Sansa needs to off him ASAP. He's plotting now, he's really bloody plotting. He thought he'd played a good hand helping Sansa retain Winterfell but it's caused him an issue. Jon is now the Warden and King in the North, which by marrying Sansa Baelish thought he'd get. Cersei did say, "bring me Sansa's head and I'll proclaim you Warden of the North." And now Cersei is on the Iron Throne...Bran's vision annoyed me slightly, why would they make some of it inaudible!? Yes R+L=J confirmed and all that but what was she saying, his real name? A Targaryen name for Jon?
I'm not sure how long Jaime will stand by Cersei now, I don't see him fully betraying her or killing her but leaving. I'm not sure where, but he is a brilliant character, one that becomes so much more likeable away from KL. His exchange with Walder Frey was great.
I'm hoping Ayra does return to Winterfell and Bran can't be staying away too long, he needs to find Jon and give him the major news. Isn't there a Weirwood tree in Winterfell too? He can do his three eyed raven business there.
Those interesting in the amazing score for this episode, it was by a guy called Ramin Djawadi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-gbqbVd8c&li...
I can see Jamie being in KL when the Dornish come and Cersei threatens to blow the whole place up, and Jamie killing her for the same reason as Aerys. Excellent tragic ending. He may be Azor Ahai. 
Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
I did like the Sansa & LF scene. She still believed LF wanted her, but he revealed the Iron Throne as his first and foremost desire and she was only the bonus prize. That was a huge mistake on his part. However I think his desire for her has compromised that objective. Definitely watch that again if you get the chance I'm certain there is lot more to that scene that is obvious on the surface. It is a key stone moment for Sansa.
At first I did wonder why the Knights of the Vale pledged to Jon Snow over Sansa Stark. However she did play the vulnerable and guileless girl to perfection with them in the inquest into Lady Lysa's death. The consequence would be to reinforce their patrilineal assumption.
Jon is turning out to be pretty sexist in his behaviour and I think that will bite him in the arse, given he hasn't learnt his lesson.
The other thing to consider is which houses actually have surviving heirs, very few. Cersci pretty much finished up those resident in Kings Landing. Danny's acceptance of a Political Marriage could be for naught with few eligible male heirs left.
Non in Dorne, Jamie, Jon, LF, Robin; who else?
At first I did wonder why the Knights of the Vale pledged to Jon Snow over Sansa Stark. However she did play the vulnerable and guileless girl to perfection with them in the inquest into Lady Lysa's death. The consequence would be to reinforce their patrilineal assumption.
Jon is turning out to be pretty sexist in his behaviour and I think that will bite him in the arse, given he hasn't learnt his lesson.
The other thing to consider is which houses actually have surviving heirs, very few. Cersci pretty much finished up those resident in Kings Landing. Danny's acceptance of a Political Marriage could be for naught with few eligible male heirs left.
Non in Dorne, Jamie, Jon, LF, Robin; who else?
chris watton said:
The witch did tell the young Cersei (First scene in the first episode of Season 5) that she would be queen, but she would also be usurped by a younger queen soon after. I am guessing that must be Daenerys.
She was already queen, then Maergery became queen. It could happen again I guess. I think we'll see some manoeuvres towards the Iron Throne by others who'll say Cersei has no claim and it should be theirs due to being a cousin or nephew of whoever. Great episode..
A few random thoughts that occurred to me (I'd had a couple after the England game)..
Tommen doing a Denholm Reynholm in the boardroom.. Wonder if Woy Hodgson considered the same last night?
Sam at the giant library at Maester HQ looked like he was in a Minecraft map
Cersei looked hot in her panto villain outfit
Sansa is looking like a young JK Rowling these days
Are there any direwolves left at all now?
Arya is such a badass.. worth her sloooww story arc for that bit! Take that, Filch the Caretaker!
A few random thoughts that occurred to me (I'd had a couple after the England game)..
Tommen doing a Denholm Reynholm in the boardroom.. Wonder if Woy Hodgson considered the same last night?
Sam at the giant library at Maester HQ looked like he was in a Minecraft map
Cersei looked hot in her panto villain outfit
Sansa is looking like a young JK Rowling these days
Are there any direwolves left at all now?
Arya is such a badass.. worth her sloooww story arc for that bit! Take that, Filch the Caretaker!
Edited by gregd on Tuesday 28th June 09:27
GarryDK said:
But how is Cersi on the throne she has absolutely no claim.
I guess as said, no one to challenger her. BUT, i saw somewhere on the internet that there's been a lot of working out and technically Jaime is now heir to the throne through his grandfather's second cousin's aunt's pet fish or something. I think the point of it all is that it's all culminated in there being no heirs to the throne anymore in this line due to all the warring and scheming - it's finished. Spanna said:
chris watton said:
The witch did tell the young Cersei (First scene in the first episode of Season 5) that she would be queen, but she would also be usurped by a younger queen soon after. I am guessing that must be Daenerys.
She was already queen, then Maergery became queen. It could happen again I guess. I think we'll see some manoeuvres towards the Iron Throne by others who'll say Cersei has no claim and it should be theirs due to being a cousin or nephew of whoever. Although, knowing Cersei, maybe she wanted to know if she would ever be queen in her own right, and not just because of who she is married to.
chris watton said:
Ah, of course she was, how soon I forget!
Although, knowing Cersei, maybe she wanted to know if she would ever be queen in her own right, and not just because of who she is married to.
It's a common trope of mythology and feigned mythology that prophesies are tricksy, though.Although, knowing Cersei, maybe she wanted to know if she would ever be queen in her own right, and not just because of who she is married to.
Alapeno said:
Very good episode, if not the best one.
Only thing that has me confused though, anyone else think they're all a bit quick to proclaim him the King in the North? The whole bd thing is pretty ingrained into their culture, just surprised they'd even think to name him King, especially with Sansa sitting right next to him.
One thing is stronger....misogyny! That'll trump owt! It took Cersei to kill everyone to get her spot!!Only thing that has me confused though, anyone else think they're all a bit quick to proclaim him the King in the North? The whole b
d thing is pretty ingrained into their culture, just surprised they'd even think to name him King, especially with Sansa sitting right next to him. Sheets Tabuer said:
He's the legitimate heir, nothing else matters now.
If they were married.I had to look at the Mormont page, because Lady Maege Mormont in the books is also a leader.
Women are OK when all the male leaders are dead. Jeor and Jorah had both gone, leaving only Jorah's sister.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Mormont
They are unusual in that the women are taught fighting, like wildlings and Iron-Born.
Lyanna having a crush on Jon is probably accurate.
best sort of alliance.
Women are OK when all the male leaders are dead. Jeor and Jorah had both gone, leaving only Jorah's sister.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Mormont
They are unusual in that the women are taught fighting, like wildlings and Iron-Born.
Lyanna having a crush on Jon is probably accurate.
best sort of alliance.
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