Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS
Discussion
FourWheelDrift said:
Another question over Tommen's suicide. Did he know Cersei was not in the Sept? All he knew was a silent Mountain was stopping him from leaving, did he think she blew up everyone by committing suicide by wildfire?
Nah. He knew his bat-s
t crazy Mum/Aunt was behind it and perfectly safe.So I'm guessing that with the news there is likely to be 2 seasons of 7 episodes each I'm guessing it will probably be one season focused mainly on uniting the 7 kingdoms and all those stories, then the final season will be the 7 kingdoms against the White Walkers and the Nights King.
I'm thinking it must be setting up for a Dany and Jon unification to take the joint fight to the north and the wall.
Sam will spend S7 learning some magic stuff to aid the fight.
I'm thinking it must be setting up for a Dany and Jon unification to take the joint fight to the north and the wall.
Sam will spend S7 learning some magic stuff to aid the fight.
Il echo what someone said that there's a fan theory out there that traced the family line and technically Jamie should be King.
As for Cersei and what they with told her, three children would die and I also though she was told her pale neck would be chocked or hands on it using a word that translates as younger brother which she must have thought meant to be Tyrion but now points towards Jamie.
On the Danaerys and Jon Snow marriage uniting the North and South I think it will be mooted but the stickler will be that it seems Starks marry for love rather than power, Ned loves Caitlyn, Rob married for love rather than power at the red wedding, Jon would have married Ygritte given the chance and Sansa married Joffrey in a juvenile notion of love. Jin will cross paths with a woman in the North and fall in love, Danaerys will make a play to marry him to unite north and south but it won't happen and this is where little finger probably takes dvantage somehow.
As for Cersei and what they with told her, three children would die and I also though she was told her pale neck would be chocked or hands on it using a word that translates as younger brother which she must have thought meant to be Tyrion but now points towards Jamie.
On the Danaerys and Jon Snow marriage uniting the North and South I think it will be mooted but the stickler will be that it seems Starks marry for love rather than power, Ned loves Caitlyn, Rob married for love rather than power at the red wedding, Jon would have married Ygritte given the chance and Sansa married Joffrey in a juvenile notion of love. Jin will cross paths with a woman in the North and fall in love, Danaerys will make a play to marry him to unite north and south but it won't happen and this is where little finger probably takes dvantage somehow.
briangriffin said:
On the Danaerys and Jon Snow marriage uniting the North and South I think it will be mooted but the stickler will be that it seems Starks marry for love rather than power, Ned loves Caitlyn
Might be right, but it was an arranged marriage, they made it work. Tully and Stark were both great houses and it was deffo a power move.briangriffin said:
On the Danaerys and Jon Snow marriage uniting the North and South I think it will be mooted but the stickler will be that it seems Starks marry for love rather than power, Ned loves Caitlyn...
Its a nice idea but Ned only married Caitlyn because his brother was murdered and he became heir to Winterfell. Love came later I think.briangriffin said:
Il echo what someone said that there's a fan theory out there that traced the family line and technically Jamie should be King.
Surely the problem with that is that on joining the Kingsguard, Jamie had to renounce his position as heir to the Lannister line and Casterly Rock. I think we're also told that Barristan Selmy had to do likewise. It seems reasonable to assume that he would have had to renounce any claim of his own to the throne in the line of succession.I don't know how being booted out of the Kingsguard works but I don't think it can just be assumed that it reinstates the position before he joined.
The point's moot, anyway. It seemed pretty clear to me that Cersei staged a coup. There wasn't any pretence of claiming that she as Queen Mother was next in the line of succession.
briangriffin said:
On the Danaerys and Jon Snow marriage uniting the North and South I think it will be mooted but the stickler will be that it seems Starks marry for love rather than power
Of course, we don't know that yet as they haven't met.Jon could fall in love with her, he does have a thing for powerful, strong women....
Some spoilery speculation (includes some book references)
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/game-of-thrones/417...
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/game-of-thrones/417...
glazbagun said:
I can see Jamie being in KL when the Dornish come and Cersei threatens to blow the whole place up, and Jamie killing her for the same reason as Aerys. Excellent tragic ending. He may be Azor Ahai. 
Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
Interesting snippet I read today - the Azor Ahai prophecy suggests the Prince that was Promised would be born under a 'bleeding star' - Ned was holding Dawn, made from the material from a falling star, dripping blood, in the ToJ scene... Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
Sway said:
glazbagun said:
I can see Jamie being in KL when the Dornish come and Cersei threatens to blow the whole place up, and Jamie killing her for the same reason as Aerys. Excellent tragic ending. He may be Azor Ahai.
Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
Interesting snippet I read today - the Azor Ahai prophecy suggests the Prince that was Promised would be born under a 'bleeding star' - Ned was holding Dawn, made from the material from a falling star, dripping blood, in the ToJ scene... Except instead of a pyromancer, he'll need to stop the Mountain. Who will die by either the Hound or Brienne.
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Butter Face said:
Here it is conspicuous by it's prominent central position, it was the sword Ned picked up to deal the final blow - https://youtu.be/MgFPVae1Cb8?t=89Now I'm wondering about the Azor Ahai theory.
Apparently Azor has a greatsword that took him a couple of attempts and a few stabbings to forge, then he named it Lightbringer. I wonder if the TV show is going to have Jon Snow break his sword and then Samwell gives him Heartsbane? Or potentially both swords are broken and then reforged creating Lightbringer.
Difficult to tell how and what they will use out of the books and, even then, how they will tweak it to fit the show storyline....
ETA - Heartsbane must have a part to play in this; they've made a point of showing Sam stealing it and lugging it around last episode.
Apparently Azor has a greatsword that took him a couple of attempts and a few stabbings to forge, then he named it Lightbringer. I wonder if the TV show is going to have Jon Snow break his sword and then Samwell gives him Heartsbane? Or potentially both swords are broken and then reforged creating Lightbringer.
Difficult to tell how and what they will use out of the books and, even then, how they will tweak it to fit the show storyline....
ETA - Heartsbane must have a part to play in this; they've made a point of showing Sam stealing it and lugging it around last episode.
Sway said:
Interesting snippet I read today - the Azor Ahai prophecy suggests the Prince that was Promised would be born under a 'bleeding star' - Ned was holding Dawn, made from the material from a falling star, dripping blood, in the ToJ scene...
Martin is a bloody good writer if he did that...well, he is anyway, for anyone who has read the theories. He wrote it to supply and feed many versions. Is this show or book?London424 said:
Some spoilery speculation (includes some book references)
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/game-of-thrones/417...
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/game-of-thrones/417...
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