Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS
Discussion
Spanna said:
Top memeage there 
Now Melisandre is headed South, we know Ayra is at the Twins this prophecy should come to fruition early next season:
Wasn't Mel on Ayra's list? It's been that long I can't remember...
But isn't the Lord of Light and The Many Faced just different aspects of the same (Mono)theism; like Catholicism and Protestantism. It is The Seven that completely different (Poly)theism like Hinduism vs Abrahamics.Now Melisandre is headed South, we know Ayra is at the Twins this prophecy should come to fruition early next season:
Wasn't Mel on Ayra's list? It's been that long I can't remember...
Can't be many still on her list, Cersci, Jamie, the Mountain and the Hound, we know most (all?) of the rest are actually dead now.
Edited by 4x4Tyke on Thursday 30th June 12:23
Do the sizes of the armies actually matter in the sense of them having any bearing on a completely fictional tale?
Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty s
t narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.
Tits n dragons
Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty s
t narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.Tits n dragons
Book kill list:
Ser Amory Lorch - For killing Yoren.
Queen Cersei Lannister - For her father, for Lady, and for everyone in the Stark household who were killed.
Chiswyck - For capturing them, for thinking that Polliver taking her Needle was funny.
Dunsen - For capturing them, for taking Gendry's bull's horn helmet
Ser Gregor Clegane - For capturing them, for being the main reason they were tortured
Ser Ilyn Payne - For chopping off her father's head
King Joffrey Baratheon - For her father, for Lady, and for everyone in the Stark household who were killed.
Ser Meryn Trant - For killing Syrio Forel
Polliver - For capturing them, for taking Needle from her
Raff the Sweetling - For capturing them, for killing Lommy Greenhands
Sandor Clegane (as The Hound) - For Mycah, and later on for the way he treats her in the Riverlands, for not going to rescue her brother or her mother at the Twins
The Tickler - For the torture of all the captives
Weese - For mistreating her in Harrenhal
TV Kill List
Joffrey Baratheon - Dead former king and all around asshat.
Cersei Lannister - Mother of Joffrey and overall manipulative bh.
Walder Frey - Betrayer of Robb and orchestrated the murder of Robb & Catelyn.
Meryn Trant - Member of the Kingsguard whom Arya blames for the death of Syrio Forel
Tywin Lannister - Head of house Lannister, father of Cersei and Jaime.
Mellisandre (the Red Woman) - Stannis' influential cohort, wanted to kill Gendry for blood magic.
Beric Dondarrion - Leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Thoros of Myr - Member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Ilyn Payne - Executioner ("King's Justice") who beheaded Ned Stark.
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) - Knight who works for house Lannister.
Sandor Clegane (The Hound) - Former servant of house Lannister.
So from the TV list, left to date;
Cersei Lannister - Mother of Joffrey and overall manipulative bh.
Mellisandre (the Red Woman) - Stannis' influential cohort, wanted to kill Gendry for blood magic.
Beric Dondarrion - Leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Thoros of Myr - Member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) - Knight who works for house Lannister.
Sandor Clegane (The Hound) - Former servant of house Lannister.
I still dont get how she became a no-one when she 'remembered' who she was or maybe im just thick?
Ser Amory Lorch - For killing Yoren.
Queen Cersei Lannister - For her father, for Lady, and for everyone in the Stark household who were killed.
Chiswyck - For capturing them, for thinking that Polliver taking her Needle was funny.
Dunsen - For capturing them, for taking Gendry's bull's horn helmet
Ser Gregor Clegane - For capturing them, for being the main reason they were tortured
Ser Ilyn Payne - For chopping off her father's head
King Joffrey Baratheon - For her father, for Lady, and for everyone in the Stark household who were killed.
Ser Meryn Trant - For killing Syrio Forel
Polliver - For capturing them, for taking Needle from her
Raff the Sweetling - For capturing them, for killing Lommy Greenhands
Sandor Clegane (as The Hound) - For Mycah, and later on for the way he treats her in the Riverlands, for not going to rescue her brother or her mother at the Twins
The Tickler - For the torture of all the captives
Weese - For mistreating her in Harrenhal
TV Kill List
Joffrey Baratheon - Dead former king and all around asshat.
Cersei Lannister - Mother of Joffrey and overall manipulative b
h.Walder Frey - Betrayer of Robb and orchestrated the murder of Robb & Catelyn.
Meryn Trant - Member of the Kingsguard whom Arya blames for the death of Syrio Forel
Tywin Lannister - Head of house Lannister, father of Cersei and Jaime.
Mellisandre (the Red Woman) - Stannis' influential cohort, wanted to kill Gendry for blood magic.
Beric Dondarrion - Leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Thoros of Myr - Member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Ilyn Payne - Executioner ("King's Justice") who beheaded Ned Stark.
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) - Knight who works for house Lannister.
Sandor Clegane (The Hound) - Former servant of house Lannister.
So from the TV list, left to date;
Cersei Lannister - Mother of Joffrey and overall manipulative b
h.Mellisandre (the Red Woman) - Stannis' influential cohort, wanted to kill Gendry for blood magic.
Beric Dondarrion - Leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Thoros of Myr - Member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, sold Gendry out to Mellisandre.
Gregor Clegane (The Mountain) - Knight who works for house Lannister.
Sandor Clegane (The Hound) - Former servant of house Lannister.
Edited by lemmingjames on Thursday 30th June 11:20
I still dont get how she became a no-one when she 'remembered' who she was or maybe im just thick?
Edited by lemmingjames on Thursday 30th June 11:21
Disastrous said:
Do the sizes of the armies actually matter in the sense of them having any bearing on a completely fictional tale?
Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty st narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.
Tits n dragons
In the book, hugely important, Martin is a major history buff, in the show...less so.Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty s
t narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.Tits n dragons
Dothraki are meant to be awesome in battle, but would be utterly useless in a siege environment.
lemmingjames said:
I still dont get how she became a no-one when she 'remembered' who she was or maybe im just thick?
Jaqen told her she was finally NoOne and didn't seem too bothered when she told him to GTF, so I reckon that was him giving her approved status. She could already use the faces as an initiate so I reckon it's not so much a technical hurdle as an authorisation one.Unless she becomes blind for the next two seasons.
glazbagun said:
Jaqen told her she was finally NoOne and didn't seem too bothered when she told him to GTF, so I reckon that was him giving her approved status. She could already use the faces as an initiate so I reckon it's not so much a technical hurdle as an authorisation one.
Unless she becomes blind for the next two seasons.
I know the books are not the show. But I adhere to Preston's theory on the faceless men in the books.Unless she becomes blind for the next two seasons.
Halb said:
Disastrous said:
Do the sizes of the armies actually matter in the sense of them having any bearing on a completely fictional tale?
Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty st narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.
Tits n dragons
In the book, hugely important, Martin is a major history buff, in the show...less so.Surely the best narrative device will be victorious (see last week for details)? It's pretty obvious that the blonde dragon bird sailing into town, setting up shop and that's that, would be a pretty s
t narrative to wrap it all up so I think it's clear that it won't run smoothly for her, even if she or the dopey northern lad eventually win or not.Tits n dragons
Dothraki are meant to be awesome in battle, but would be utterly useless in a siege environment.
Fortunately the show seems to be more focused on drama than plausibility...
rohrl said:
I thought that the last time I heard Arya repeat the list she left the Hound off it. Whether this is because she thinks he is dead or because she doesn't want to kill him any more I couldn't say.
She was reading out her list one night and he interrupted her, she replied and the Hound said something like "go on, finish your list" and she did without mentioning his name. He is no longer on the list. She would have killed him when she had the chance if he was.FourWheelDrift said:
She was reading out her list one night and he interrupted her, she replied and the Hound said something like "go on, finish your list" and she did without mentioning his name. He is no longer on the list. She would have killed him when she had the chance if he was.
She finished it with his name, it was hilarious and one of the best moments of S4. 
Halb said:
FourWheelDrift said:
She was reading out her list one night and he interrupted her, she replied and the Hound said something like "go on, finish your list" and she did without mentioning his name. He is no longer on the list. She would have killed him when she had the chance if he was.
She finished it with his name, it was hilarious and one of the best moments of S4. mandos_01 said:
Can I ask who Preston is?
I assume some sort of online reviewer, but he's mentioned a fair bit and I can't get enough analysis at the moment!
Video BloggerI assume some sort of online reviewer, but he's mentioned a fair bit and I can't get enough analysis at the moment!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXU7XVK_2Wd6tAHYO...
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