Your single most annoying thing/mistake in a movie!
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The hero's been shot, stabbed, is covered in blood, has metal splinters the size of a finger sticking out of their shoulder, been chucked through countless plate glass windows without so much as a flinch yet when the burd that he's inevitably going to shag later on is dressing his wounds and dabbing on the always available iodine he's howling like a fouled footballer.
Brigand said:
If memory serves the P51's in the movie don't escort them all the way there, near the target they peel off with the 'Belles pilots commenting on the "little friends" getting to turn home now. As for timescales though I don't know enough about the topic off the top of my head to know whether or not the Mustangs were in theatre by that point to actually escort the bombers.
The Mustangs of spring 1943 may well not have had the additional fuselage fuel tank, which would have made escorting all the way to Germany a bit marginal, especially if they had fighting to do on the way. Brigand said:
If memory serves the P51's in the movie don't escort them all the way there, near the target they peel off with the 'Belles pilots commenting on the "little friends" getting to turn home now. As for timescales though I don't know enough about the topic off the top of my head to know whether or not the Mustangs were in theatre by that point to actually escort the bombers.
The Mustangs were around, the RAF had been using them for months, but they weren't used for bomber escort until late 1943. More to the point, when they were used, they went all the way to the targets. Brigand said:
If memory serves the P51's in the movie don't escort them all the way there, near the target they peel off with the 'Belles pilots commenting on the "little friends" getting to turn home now. As for timescales though I don't know enough about the topic off the top of my head to know whether or not the Mustangs were in theatre by that point to actually escort the bombers.
The only P-51s in service in 1942 were original Allison powered P-51As (RAF Mustang MK1s) and they weren't being used as bomber escort - chiefly because they were poor above 10,000 feet and lacked the necessary range. Initially, the USAAF (like the RAF and Luftwaffe before them) thought that their unescorted bombers could make it to the target and back and defend themselves all the way. When the RAF pointed out that it had not worked for them in 1939, the USAAF said their bombers were better defended - which was true. But even a shedload of 50 calbre machine guns was no match for determined, cannon equipped, single seat fighters.
The first Merlin engined Mustang was the P-51B which entered service in late 1943. The even better P-51D entered service just before D-Day.
Memphis Belle's final mission took place in May 1943 - months before any P-51Bs were in service and over a year before the P-51D arrived.
I don't like the way that drowning is portrayed in film and tv, the drowning victim is always able to cry for help and wave arms about and generally attract attention.
In reality drowning is silent and quite hard to spot unless you know what to look for, the victim is normally unable to gesture or waste air on shouting and its often fatal because the TV has conditioned us that someone will be making a fuss if they are in difficulty in water so people close by fail to recognise they could be helping.
In reality drowning is silent and quite hard to spot unless you know what to look for, the victim is normally unable to gesture or waste air on shouting and its often fatal because the TV has conditioned us that someone will be making a fuss if they are in difficulty in water so people close by fail to recognise they could be helping.
Getragdogleg said:
I don't like the way that drowning is portrayed in film and tv, the drowning victim is always able to cry for help and wave arms about and generally attract attention.
In reality drowning is silent and quite hard to spot unless you know what to look for, the victim is normally unable to gesture or waste air on shouting and its often fatal because the TV has conditioned us that someone will be making a fuss if they are in difficulty in water so people close by fail to recognise they could be helping.
Always a good reason to post thisIn reality drowning is silent and quite hard to spot unless you know what to look for, the victim is normally unable to gesture or waste air on shouting and its often fatal because the TV has conditioned us that someone will be making a fuss if they are in difficulty in water so people close by fail to recognise they could be helping.
I saw a good youtube video about people in movies falling into lava, its not quite accurate apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW56dMH0T2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW56dMH0T2s
the worst ever thing I can remember was viewing "indiana jones and the crystal skulls" or whatever it was called when his son arives on a supposedly 40s harley which had blatantly modern hand controls in the very first scene it was shown in and got rapidly worse from there on in. With the budget they had you would think they could at least make it look authentic....... he may as well have been riding a VROD..
Timbergiant said:
I saw a good youtube video about people in movies falling into lava, its not quite accurate apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW56dMH0T2s
It makes a good point. But I rather think of it as stage fighting/sword fighting vs MMA/fencing- what's realistic isn't neccesarily good to watch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW56dMH0T2s
The "downloading money" bar was a good shout. I also think it's becoming harder to suspend disbelief when you see heroes/government agencies running their own bespoke OS with spiffy graphics, etc, or indeed the idea that they have electronics that are better than anything available on the market without the benefit of economies of scale.
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