Great British Bake Off 2016

[Biker 1]

Cobnapint said:

As it stands, they are trying to fight a 21st century battle with a 1970's business plan.

More like a 19th century business plan.....

[vxr8mate]

Biker 1 said:

vxr8mate said:

The Beeb will pay whatever it takes to keep Premier footy highlights, but everything else appears to be expendable.

I think they may have missjudged this one.

I'm not sure what they paid, but clearly nothing compared to Sky/BT for live matches. I enjoy football, & Match of the Day is a good format, but its on sooooo late.... Oh, sorry, this thread was about some baking, far more important than EPL

Not just baking, entertainment...so much more so than a bunch of wet, over paid nappies kicking a bag of wind about.

[KTF]

Gandahar said:

smithyithy said:

Is that what they were asking or what they were offered?

They were offered £15m

Channel 4 was prepared to give them a lot more dough.

£10M more it seems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37349...

[FourWheelDrift]

I don't get the news stories about TGBB being lost. Viewers only have to press the button marked '4' on their remote controls next year. Oh look, there it is. Or do the media think that the BBC viewers are too snobbish to watch Channel 4, which is after all another publicly owned channel, just like the BBC in every way but it's funding.

[Truckosaurus]

FourWheelDrift said:

...just like the BBC in every way but it's funding.

Doesn't C4 get a cut of the licence fee in exchange for producing certain public-interest content?

[FourWheelDrift]

Truckosaurus said:

FourWheelDrift said:

...just like the BBC in every way but it's funding.

Doesn't C4 get a cut of the licence fee in exchange for producing certain public-interest content?

Was only a short term measure - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4#Funding in 2007 that was cancelled before it was used.

[anonymous-user]

So, as I read it, the BBC go to a Production Company and give a programme air time without any kick back, it goes balistic on the ratings and is so successful the Production Company then dictate to the BBC how much they want to do another season.

Shouldnt someone in the BBC be fired for one or more of:

a) Entering into an agreement where ALL of the value of a programme is with the Production Company and NONE with the BBC
b) Even THINKING of paying £70m for the next season WITHOUT thinking 'hey why dont we have an in-house production company and start it with say £10m, to then fund years of doing our OWN programme formats and programmes

I just dont get why the BBC are over a barrel on things like this - it is they who should be dictating terms not the other way round, they should have in house writers and producers and save an absolute fortune. Lets face it the Bake Off isn't exactly rocket science in its format is it!!!

In a different scenario Mary and Mr stehouse et al would be quite happy to work for a few hundred grand a year and the celebs and punters would do it for free. The BBC provided the format and air time and promotion so due to their ineptness have generated a value they have no part of and cant afford to buy - mad!

[PositronicRay]

Lets face it, some channel 4 execs now having to justify spending £25m on a kitchen.

[Leithen]

PositronicRay said:

Lets face it, some channel 4 execs now having to justify spending £25m on a kitchen.

In a tent.

[KTF]

Mel and Sue wont be moving to C4. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37355...

[TheInternet]

Leithen said:

PositronicRay said:

Lets face it, some channel 4 execs now having to justify spending £25m on a kitchen.

In a tent.

Without half the presenters (at least).

Awful decision by C4 IMO. Paul and Mary have them by the balls too.

[greygoose]

KTF said:

Mel and Sue wont be moving to C4. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37355...

Seems Channel 4 have paid a lot for not that much now.

[anonymous-user]

Does it really matter a st? 'Panem et circenses'was never more apt.......

[Bradgate]

TheInternet said:

Without half the presenters (at least).

Awful decision by C4 IMO. Paul and Mary have them by the balls too.

Agreed, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mary tells them where to stuff it too.

[PositronicRay]

Bradgate said:

TheInternet said:

Without half the presenters (at least).

Awful decision by C4 IMO. Paul and Mary have them by the balls too.

Agreed, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mary tells them where to stuff it too.

And PH, I don't suppose he's confident enough to carry (a failure) on his own.

[anonymous-user]

REALIST123 said:

Does it really matter a st? 'Panem et circenses'was never more apt.......

Really?

[Sparkyhd]

C4 will have a lot to prove.

[Sheepshanks]

FourWheelDrift said:

I don't get the news stories about TGBB being lost. Viewers only have to press the button marked '4' on their remote controls next year. Oh look, there it is. Or do the media think that the BBC viewers are too snobbish to watch Channel 4, which is after all another publicly owned channel, just like the BBC in every way but it's funding.

A friend of my wife's has Facebooked that she won't watch it on C4. I bet there's loads of people who only ever watch BBC.

[Burwood]

change of format, BBC make a new show. Simples

[AlexRS2782]

Bradgate said:

TheInternet said:

Without half the presenters (at least).

Awful decision by C4 IMO. Paul and Mary have them by the balls too.

Agreed, but I wouldn't be surprised if Mary tells them where to stuff it too.

TBH with Mel & Sue saying they wont be involved with the C4 version I highly doubt Mary & Paul will stay on now because the 4 of them together with the banter, comedy, jokes, etc, is what made it work & watchable.

Plus I believe Mary's historical cookery related shows over the many decades have always been broadcast via the BBC too?

I have a feeling C4 will now have little option to turn it into a 2 way commercial show with all that entails, including product placement, sponsorship, celeb spinoff version, etc.