James Bond Moonraker question.

[Halb]

I like AVTAK, yeah Roger is creaky, but the song, story, baddie, side-kicks and BOnd beauty are all top notch for me!

[Halmyre]

simoid said:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/mandela-effect?u...

Mandela effect - when lots of people share a similar mistaken memory...

Most of that seems to be collective idiocy (spelling), or just down to being American (not knowing where other countries are located). Although I agree about chartreuse.

[Europa1]

Halb said:

Moonraker is a travelogue; go to this place, action scene...go to this place, action scene...go to this place, action scene. The Borne films remind of this type of travelogue film making.

Much like Spectre, then...

[Halb]

Europa1 said:

Halb said:

Moonraker is a travelogue; go to this place, action scene...go to this place, action scene...go to this place, action scene. The Borne films remind of this type of travelogue film making.

Much like Spectre, then...

I thought Spectre was very reminiscent of that sort of travelogue style action film. Hollow.

[williamp]

You seem to have all forgotten understandably) Quantom of solace as the very worst of the worst. Moonraker has a certain chamr to it, and as a boy the hovercraft scene was great fun. There is no fun in QoS.

[Halb]

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.
I quite like QoS, I think it was the last good Craig one.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 21st September 10:50

[Europa1]

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.
I quite like QoS, I think it was the last good Craig one.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 21st September 10:50

I saw Quantum of Solace again fairly recently; it was better than I gave it credit for at the time (maybe it felt like a comedown after Casino Royale?). The shootout at the opera in particular was good. And of course it had the toothsome Gemma Arterton in it.

[droopsnoot]

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.

They got a bit repetitive after the first which was, I think, The Spy who Loved Me. Although back then at least it was a bloke doing a double take and throwing a bottle away. Whoever added the whistle effect while the car was jumping the river in whichever one that was (Man with the Golden Gun, I think), started it.

[Halmyre]

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.
I quite like QoS, I think it was the last good Craig one.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 21st September 10:50

I always associate Moonraker with the Tarzan yell, but that was apparently Octopussy. Which also has the Barbara Woodhouse (who?, says anyone under the age of 40) "siiiiit!" scene with the tiger. But Moonraker does have Bond dressed as Clint Eastwood in 'A Fistful of Dollars'. So the honours are even.

Agree with you about QoS.

[EagleMoto4-2]

I liked Moonraker. I believe in the DVD extra's they explained the movie came about because of other films like Star Wars stirring an interest in Sci-Fi, so the producers wanted to tap into that. There was also interest at the time in the upcoming Space Shuttle program hence why the film featured the Shuttle quite a lot. It was also made out of sequence as at the end of the previous film (The Spy Who Loved Me) it said that Bond would return in the film For Your Eyes Only, that of course came after Moonraker in the end.

[Halmyre]

The Law of Moore Bonds is the inverse of the Law of Star Trek films:

LALD - good
TMWTGG - bad
TSWLM - good
Moonraker - bad
FYEO - good
Octopussy - bad
AVTAK - bad (OK, the law breaks down if pushed too far)

[EagleMoto4-2]

I see the Moore films following the line of a bell-shaped curve. Starting average, peaking at TSWLM and then dropping way back down to AVTAK

[Pesty]

Mwtgg bad?

Choke yourself

[r11co]

Europa1 said:

I saw Quantum of Solace again fairly recently; it was better than I gave it credit for at the time.

I've thought the exact same thing with repeated views. QoS is like For Your Eyes Only in that sense.

Pesty said:

Mwtgg bad?

Choke yourself

Not good (and I cringe every time I hear that wee Glaswegian bachle howling the theme song), but not as bad as AVTAK or DAF. Bottom line is none of them are real howlers, but DAF suffers from shocking editing leading to massive plot holes, only salvaged by the villain's henchmen and sme great set-pieces.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 21st September 19:29

[The GMan]

droopsnoot said:

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.

They got a bit repetitive after the first which was, I think, The Spy who Loved Me. Although back then at least it was a bloke doing a double take and throwing a bottle away. Whoever added the whistle effect while the car was jumping the river in whichever one that was (Man with the Golden Gun, I think), started it.

The bloke doing the double take while the Lotus drives out of the sea in The Spy Who Loved Me is in Moonraker too. He is drinking in the square just before the pigeon does a double take. He is also in For Your Eyes Only. He is drinking at the bar on the ski slope that Bond ski's over a table at and the motorbikes chasing him crash through.

[The GMan]

Halmyre said:

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.
I quite like QoS, I think it was the last good Craig one.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 21st September 10:50

I always associate Moonraker with the Tarzan yell, but that was apparently Octopussy. Which also has the Barbara Woodhouse (who?, says anyone under the age of 40) "siiiiit!" scene with the tiger. But Moonraker does have Bond dressed as Clint Eastwood in 'A Fistful of Dollars'. So the honours are even.

Agree with you about QoS.

Octopussy also has the scene when Vijay plays the Jame's Bond theme while snake charming to get Bond's attention.

A lot of crap in Octopussy, the bed of nails bit when the guy is thrown on it and the blokes shouts get off my bed. Also Vijay hitting one of the henchmen with his tennis racket while a crowd look left to right with the noise of a tennis ball being hit.

QoS was lucky to get made. Daniel Craig actually had a lot of input due to the writers strike at the time. It's not bad if you look into the issues they had trying to get it off the ground.

Roger Moore shouldn't have made A View To A Kill. Even he has acknowledged he was to old for it. Apparently he was mortified when he found out he was older than Tanya Roberts mother during filming. David Bowie was originally cast as Zorin but later backed out.

[Halmyre]

droopsnoot said:

Halb said:

The Hovercraft scene has a pigeon doing a double take, I'm not sure I want my Bond to have that sort of 'fun' in it.

They got a bit repetitive after the first which was, I think, The Spy who Loved Me. Although back then at least it was a bloke doing a double take and throwing a bottle away. Whoever added the whistle effect while the car was jumping the river in whichever one that was (Man with the Golden Gun, I think), started it.

Yep, the swannee whistle effect was a real 'WTF were they thinking?' moment; that and he's got Sheriff bloody Pepper in the car with him, for absolutely no good or even explainable reason (even by the standards of Bond films).

[Jasandjules]

Pesty said:

Yep strange isn't it. I'd have put a large amount of cash betting she had braces.

I remembered the breasts correctly though.

I am 100% certain of it. I may be wrong...

[Jasandjules]

We are not alone in this issue..

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[anonymous-user]

Halmyre said:

he's got Sheriff bloody Pepper in the car with him, for absolutely no good or even explainable reason (even by the standards of Bond films).

US box office, plain and simple.
Bumbling sheriff helps Bond. He may be bumbling but he's American