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KTF said:
Or use the personal adverts in the times like they do in the spy films.
Or, like I said previously, use radio! I know very little about radio but surely it must take a lot of effort to monitor every frequency for activity..?
You can converse all day long and so long as you gave nothing away, they'd be hard pushed to find you!
SystemParanoia said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Purity14 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?
Yes, of course!As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa
You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!
Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.
Christ alive, the Keystone Cops could catch you.
You only need one of each to spot that one message has capitals or punctuation and the other doesn't.
It'd stand out a mile. After that it'd be a coffee-break conundrum for any decent cryptographer.
Wow. Useful that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
The fact you have used such a method of communication makes it blindingly obvious you are trying to get in contact with that person. Any burner phones, encrypted tech etc will make it obvious.
The hunters then know they just have to watch/listen/follow this person to get to you.
If you actually want to fool them, then go get your grans mobile phone that she has been using for years and borrow that for a week. just remember to type in caps with really bad attempts at "fone txt".
Even then if they have a bug in this persons house then the people you are contacting are quite likely to say what you have spent ages trying to encrypt out aloud.
Much easier, is just not to rely on friends/family.
Efbe said:
SystemParanoia said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Purity14 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?
Yes, of course!As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa
You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!
Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.
Christ alive, the Keystone Cops could catch you.
You only need one of each to spot that one message has capitals or punctuation and the other doesn't.
It'd stand out a mile. After that it'd be a coffee-break conundrum for any decent cryptographer.
Wow. Useful that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
The fact you have used such a method of communication makes it blindingly obvious you are trying to get in contact with that person. Any burner phones, encrypted tech etc will make it obvious.
The hunters then know they just have to watch/listen/follow this person to get to you.
If you actually want to fool them, then go get your grans mobile phone that she has been using for years and borrow that for a week. just remember to type in caps with really bad attempts at "fone txt".
Even then if they have a bug in this persons house then the people you are contacting are quite likely to say what you have spent ages trying to encrypt out aloud.
Much easier, is just not to rely on friends/family.
so if i HAVE to.. then i'll encrypt... i'd rather use the enigma method purely as a historic nod to the good work of Alan Turing
SystemParanoia said:
Efbe said:
SystemParanoia said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Purity14 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?
Yes, of course!As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa
You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!
Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.
Christ alive, the Keystone Cops could catch you.
You only need one of each to spot that one message has capitals or punctuation and the other doesn't.
It'd stand out a mile. After that it'd be a coffee-break conundrum for any decent cryptographer.
Wow. Useful that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
The fact you have used such a method of communication makes it blindingly obvious you are trying to get in contact with that person. Any burner phones, encrypted tech etc will make it obvious.
The hunters then know they just have to watch/listen/follow this person to get to you.
If you actually want to fool them, then go get your grans mobile phone that she has been using for years and borrow that for a week. just remember to type in caps with really bad attempts at "fone txt".
Even then if they have a bug in this persons house then the people you are contacting are quite likely to say what you have spent ages trying to encrypt out aloud.
Much easier, is just not to rely on friends/family.
so if i HAVE to.. then i'll encrypt... i'd rather use the enigma method purely as a historic nod to the good work of Alan Turing
Efbe said:
SystemParanoia said:
Efbe said:
SystemParanoia said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
WinstonWolf said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Purity14 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?
Yes, of course!As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa
You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!
Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.
Christ alive, the Keystone Cops could catch you.
You only need one of each to spot that one message has capitals or punctuation and the other doesn't.
It'd stand out a mile. After that it'd be a coffee-break conundrum for any decent cryptographer.
Wow. Useful that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
The fact you have used such a method of communication makes it blindingly obvious you are trying to get in contact with that person. Any burner phones, encrypted tech etc will make it obvious.
The hunters then know they just have to watch/listen/follow this person to get to you.
If you actually want to fool them, then go get your grans mobile phone that she has been using for years and borrow that for a week. just remember to type in caps with really bad attempts at "fone txt".
Even then if they have a bug in this persons house then the people you are contacting are quite likely to say what you have spent ages trying to encrypt out aloud.
Much easier, is just not to rely on friends/family.
so if i HAVE to.. then i'll encrypt... i'd rather use the enigma method purely as a historic nod to the good work of Alan Turing
it doesn't even have a HTTPS login.. their cyber team will have us pwn3d in moments!I don't know any of the production team (and I haven't read all this thread), but I feel fairly sure that the hunted have to do more than just run and hide. That would make very boring TV. The army bloke going to meet his wife and kid for a birthday kiss... really? Getting only £100 out of a cashpoint so you have to do it again? How stupid is that. Using mobile phones, leaving handwritten messages on paper, NOT wiping or hiding laptops / tablets even when you know they will be found. Getting into cars in front of CCTV cameras... They are making it easy for the hunters.
They probably have to agree to keep moving and do at least one brave/stupid thing - written into the contract.
Still... a bit of fun.
They probably have to agree to keep moving and do at least one brave/stupid thing - written into the contract.
Still... a bit of fun.
GetCarter said:
I don't know any of the production team (and I haven't read all this thread), but I feel fairly sure that the hunted have to do more than just run and hide. That would make very boring TV. The army bloke going to meet his wife and kid for a birthday kiss... really? Getting only £100 out of a cashpoint so you have to do it again? How stupid is that. Using mobile phones, leaving handwritten messages on paper, NOT wiping or hiding laptops / tablets even when you know they will be found. Getting into cars in front of CCTV cameras... They are making it easy for the hunters.
They probably have to agree to keep moving and do at least one brave/stupid thing - written into the contract.
Still... a bit of fun.
army ≠ 007They probably have to agree to keep moving and do at least one brave/stupid thing - written into the contract.
Still... a bit of fun.
Just watched 5 minutes off this program WTF.
Surely people don't think this is real ? A 2 year old with half a brain cell can see this clearly scripted and they're all actors.
Other than light entertainment I'm trying to work out the point of the program. I suppose what it does prove though is how easy it is to manipulate the hard of thinking if they are trying to pass it off as a real hunt.
Surely people don't think this is real ? A 2 year old with half a brain cell can see this clearly scripted and they're all actors.
Other than light entertainment I'm trying to work out the point of the program. I suppose what it does prove though is how easy it is to manipulate the hard of thinking if they are trying to pass it off as a real hunt.
I've just watched half an hour and given up.
It's CRAP
Oh they're in Blackpool - cue a drone shot of the beach. Handy they had a drone there then.
They leave the safe house - cue an entire f
king family waving them goodbye. You couldn't get more overt - middle of the day too who the heck does a 'whole family at the garden gate' goodbye in a council parking area???
They go to the old school - cue headmaster 'not recognising' her. He must have bloody Alzheimer's then as they would have told him beforehand why they needed to take cameras into his office at short notice
The cameramen I presume have mobiles etc so why not just follow them it's easier.
All the time instant persuasion of random members of the public to assist. 'Yeah were being hunted by MI5 it's a tv programme honest' .... 'ok mate I'll drive you hidden through their net so they don't catch you, no problem'
FFS!
Given up on it. Better to watch Eastenders at least it doesn't pretend to be real. Oh wait.
It's CRAP
Oh they're in Blackpool - cue a drone shot of the beach. Handy they had a drone there then.
They leave the safe house - cue an entire f
king family waving them goodbye. You couldn't get more overt - middle of the day too who the heck does a 'whole family at the garden gate' goodbye in a council parking area???They go to the old school - cue headmaster 'not recognising' her. He must have bloody Alzheimer's then as they would have told him beforehand why they needed to take cameras into his office at short notice
The cameramen I presume have mobiles etc so why not just follow them it's easier.
All the time instant persuasion of random members of the public to assist. 'Yeah were being hunted by MI5 it's a tv programme honest' .... 'ok mate I'll drive you hidden through their net so they don't catch you, no problem'
FFS!
Given up on it. Better to watch Eastenders at least it doesn't pretend to be real. Oh wait.
+1. I'm sure the first series was less obviously 'made up' although I only watched a few episodes of that.
This series, is just laughably, insultingly, idiotically all set up.
For example, when the two soldiers 'escaped' in the van from the shopping centre... how come the hunters were 1. so sure they were in the van, and 2. suddenly bereft of any mechanism for tracking it.
Just rubbish, disappointingly so.
This series, is just laughably, insultingly, idiotically all set up.
For example, when the two soldiers 'escaped' in the van from the shopping centre... how come the hunters were 1. so sure they were in the van, and 2. suddenly bereft of any mechanism for tracking it.
Just rubbish, disappointingly so.
I only caught glimpses of the first series but fancied giving the second series a try.
The first episode was ok but this one really took the biscuit, I found myself picking holes in it from start to finish.
Just off the top of my head;
1. How did the hunters *know* the two army guys were still in that curry house building ? They'd seen them get let out of a door then gone in the restaurant themselves and stood arguing for god knows how long. For all they knew, the army guys could have been out and away long before they got round the back of the building.
2. As someone else said, how do they *know* they were in that van ?
3. Where were these social media 'wanted posters' actually placed ? I saw a #hunted hashtag so I'm assuming twitter but unless you were actually following #hunted then you'd never know a £250 reward was being offered.
4. Why did they wait till that annoying couple had got in the car ? Just so they could scream across the car park and block it in in dramatic fashion ?
5. When the silly bint jumped in the canal at the end why was she then bone dry when she got in the van ?
I'm sure there are many more, these are all I can come up with.
Oh, and I detest all of the people back in the 'hunters HQ', especially the guy in charge, surprised he can move with the size of the chip on his shoulder about being 'ex-plod'
The first episode was ok but this one really took the biscuit, I found myself picking holes in it from start to finish.
Just off the top of my head;
1. How did the hunters *know* the two army guys were still in that curry house building ? They'd seen them get let out of a door then gone in the restaurant themselves and stood arguing for god knows how long. For all they knew, the army guys could have been out and away long before they got round the back of the building.
2. As someone else said, how do they *know* they were in that van ?
3. Where were these social media 'wanted posters' actually placed ? I saw a #hunted hashtag so I'm assuming twitter but unless you were actually following #hunted then you'd never know a £250 reward was being offered.
4. Why did they wait till that annoying couple had got in the car ? Just so they could scream across the car park and block it in in dramatic fashion ?
5. When the silly bint jumped in the canal at the end why was she then bone dry when she got in the van ?
I'm sure there are many more, these are all I can come up with.
Oh, and I detest all of the people back in the 'hunters HQ', especially the guy in charge, surprised he can move with the size of the chip on his shoulder about being 'ex-plod'
I think the 'dumb bh' jumped in the canal by way of something mad to do as she clearly loves being a bit mad, with her shouty cocktail and champagne persona.
I imagine she was dry-er when getting in the van, due to time passing and getting dried off? Its not filmed in real time?!
This series is not a patch on the first....
h' jumped in the canal by way of something mad to do as she clearly loves being a bit mad, with her shouty cocktail and champagne persona.I imagine she was dry-er when getting in the van, due to time passing and getting dried off? Its not filmed in real time?!
This series is not a patch on the first....
Quickmoose said:
I think the 'dumb bh' jumped in the canal by way of something mad to do as she clearly loves being a bit mad, with her shouty cocktail and champagne persona.
I imagine she was dry-er when getting in the van, due to time passing and getting dried off? Its not filmed in real time?!
Yep, her male companion commented beforehand that it'd be her extroversion which would get them caught. And it was.h' jumped in the canal by way of something mad to do as she clearly loves being a bit mad, with her shouty cocktail and champagne persona.I imagine she was dry-er when getting in the van, due to time passing and getting dried off? Its not filmed in real time?!
Bubbled by the barman at the pub phoning it in.....
"Not my kind of people.....came in the pub and just started shouting off"
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