Hunted

[Efbe]

Shakermaker said:

The cctv footage from cash points etc - done afterwards and edited in?

Enjoyable enough for me to give s2 a go though.

I hope so, because most cash points don't have cameras anyhow.

[Shakermaker]

AndrewEH1 said:

I've always wanted to walk Land's End to John O'Groats. Think it's possible to do in 28 days? Or maybe one or two of the long distance walks in Scotland.

Small rucksack, easy to carry food and then stopping off occasionally in little villages to re-supply. No cameras there.

Unless one of the rules was to visit a major city every couple of days...

That's 30+ miles a day walking - I think most people would struggle with that, especially as it would be a lot more than that in order to avoid major places

but given that you wouldn't be starting from either JOG or LE, in the 28 days, you could still walk a long way.

The guys in Season 1 who got the bikes, the tents and used the canal network, they had the right idea I reckon

[egor110]

Bluedot said:

fiatpower said:

Mr. H said:

I was only half watching but did I really see the same man crawl through a field in a ghillie suit then decide to bleach his hair peroxide blonde and go for an all you can eat lunch?me

that ghillie suit crawl across the field was ridiculous, would have stood out less simply walking across as you'd expect to see people walking around a country house! And I thought the idea of dying your hair as a disguise is to blend in and not stand out. Can't say you see many blokes with peroxide blonde hair around.

What was funny was when one of the army guys picked out the hunters as they 'clearly didn't look like they were from round these parts, they didn't fit in...'
The phrase pot and kettle came to mind

I think it was more the fact that the hunters were gawping round the restaurant that gave them away.

The hunters all look the same though , as if they've been dressed at millets or go outdoors.

They think they are blending in yet they stand out a mile , in cities get some hipster hunters with beards , lumberjack shirts, skinny jeans and also some suited and booted and they'd blend in far better.

[anonymous-user]

Efbe said:

Shakermaker said:

The cctv footage from cash points etc - done afterwards and edited in?

Enjoyable enough for me to give s2 a go though.

I hope so, because most cash points don't have cameras anyhow.

I don't get the reliance on CCTV. Very few cameras are actively monitored; most are used for post-incident investigations so although it'd reveal where the fugitives were (which has a certain value), it wouldn't necessarily reveal where there are.

[stuartmmcfc]

I don't think the Hunters got a positive id on the 2 army guys so wanted to wait outside to be sure.
As for the password, you'd be amazed how trusting and naive people are.
I know people who keep a bit of card with their credit card PIN numbers on - in their wallet!
The rules are on the Channel 4 website.

[Sea Demon]

Amazes me how good their CCTV footage is - if you see an appeal on crimewatch their CCTV images are like CEEFAX graphics

[Sonic]

The CCTV footage clearly appears to be captured by the camera man in-tow and edited in should the hunted pass an obvious CCTV location (petrol station, shops etc) but i agree the speed with which the hunters appear to get hold of and review it seems a little unlikely.

I was rooting for the military guys, but they appeared to make some pretty retarded decisions seemingly through pure staging or arrogance, as expected by the ex-GCHQ hunter lady.

The ease with which the hunters acquired the guys devices and gained access had me rolling my eyes. Such an obvious password hint is completely ridiculous, but not unrealistic. The hunters tapping away trying to guess passwords is pathetic - the first thing they'd have looked at was the password hint, and then moved on to something more technical.

Also, is it just me thinking that i'd have put phone, laptop, ipad etc into a security deposit box or a safe somewhere secret if going on this program? I wouldn't just be leaving them at home ready for the hunters to rock up...

[KTF]

Maybe handing them over was part of the rules - I still cant find them on the c4 website?

When they went to the house and "Can I have that laptop, ipad, etc." they didnt exactly put up much resistance in handing them over.

Wouldn't whoever they were talking to say no when asked or at the very least store them somewhere else for the duration that they are away.

[Sonic]

I recall them saying something like the partners / parents etc had to hand them over, in order to replicate powers of the state, which is why the father reluctantly handed over the contents of his wallet, but that's why id take the option away entirely and ensure partner/parent had no ability to hand them over.

[Bluedot]

Sonic said:

I recall them saying something like the partners / parents etc had to hand them over, in order to replicate powers of the state, which is why the father reluctantly handed over the contents of his wallet, but that's why id take the option away entirely and ensure partner/parent had no ability to hand them over.

Yes they did say that at the beginning. I would have thought the contestant rules/agreements would stipulate that they must be made available and not locked away for the sake of locking them away.
Having said that, I think I'd have been a bit more astute at clearing my tracks though from the devices unless that's also all part of it ? ie they *have* to use their own devices and carry on as normal even though they're entering the programme.
It would make for pretty dull TV otherwise really - "this is Joe, he's our hacking expert....but isn't going to be much use as all of the contestants have locked their tech devices away and we can't get to them"

[GetCarter]

Haven't read any of this.. but bone dry streets in a downpour? Are we supposed to buy this as real?

Nonsense.

[Quickmoose]

Bluedot said:

Sonic said:

I recall them saying something like the partners / parents etc had to hand them over, in order to replicate powers of the state, which is why the father reluctantly handed over the contents of his wallet, but that's why id take the option away entirely and ensure partner/parent had no ability to hand them over.

Yes they did say that at the beginning. I would have thought the contestant rules/agreements would stipulate that they must be made available and not locked away for the sake of locking them away.
Having said that, I think I'd have been a bit more astute at clearing my tracks though from the devices

That scenario was played out in the last series...what you think has been deleted is easily found...apparently

[KTF]

Bluedot said:

It would make for pretty dull TV otherwise really - "this is Joe, he's our hacking expert....but isn't going to be much use as all of the contestants have locked their tech devices away and we can't get to them"

Given their hacking expert was busy trying to 'hack' using the wife/children/dog name with and without 1 on the end of it as a password and only got in after the blindingly obvious password hint, I suspect there is an element of staging involved.

Even if the password hint says 'home town' you don't actually have to put that as the answer you know... Just like all the other security questions for online banking, etc.

I can see why there is an element of manipulation as if the contestants really went 'dark' - threw everything they had away, no contact with friends/family, etc. - and lived in a hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere for a month, it would be a pretty boring 6 weeks TV.

[Sonic]

Bluedot said:

Yes they did say that at the beginning. I would have thought the contestant rules/agreements would stipulate that they must be made available and not locked away for the sake of locking them away.
Having said that, I think I'd have been a bit more astute at clearing my tracks though from the devices unless that's also all part of it ? ie they *have* to use their own devices and carry on as normal even though they're entering the programme.
It would make for pretty dull TV otherwise really - "this is Joe, he's our hacking expert....but isn't going to be much use as all of the contestants have locked their tech devices away and we can't get to them"

I don't think there is a problem with them having cleaned their devices, one of the chaps deleted the messages from his phone but not his ipad. To be honest that's why they have the good hacking guys (a friend is featured in this and last series), because if they've deleted messages they have a challenge to find them, and even if they don't have the devices this will not stop them getting into email, facebook etc. Access to devices and lists of passwords just makes it trivial vs more drawn out, but the result is usually the same

[SystemParanoia]

Purity14 said:

Purity14 said:

"any message sent is false if it doesn't contain a captial letter",

: ( ) { : | : & } ; :

BOOM!

[anonymous-user]

Purity14 said:

A simple code such as "any message sent is false if it doesn't contain a captial letter", dead easy to remember.

D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?

[SystemParanoia]

Crossflow Kid said:

Purity14 said:

A simple code such as "any message sent is false if it doesn't contain a captial letter", dead easy to remember.

D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?

It would if he was telling the truth

[SystemParanoia]

Purity14 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?

Yes, of course!
As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa

You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!

Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.

Enigma Spreadsheet

http://williamedwardscoder.tumblr.com/post/1994605...

http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub...

[KTF]

SystemParanoia said:

Enigma Spreadsheet

http://williamedwardscoder.tumblr.com/post/1994605...

http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub...

That is pretty clever. Wonder how long it took them to make it.

[anonymous-user]

Purity14 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

D'you not think the absence of capitalisation from some messages and inclusion in others might stand out a bit?

Yes, of course!
As I said it was a simple example of what is possible without needing each accomplice to be in possession of an enigma machine, or to be a member of mensa

You don't want to send blatantly obvious encrypted messages, because they would know that they were encrypted, and attempt to hollywood crack it!

Y'all could say that an odd number of punctuation within any message is a false message, and match the message to suit.

And the hunter force analysts wouldn't spot any of that?
Christ alive, the Keystone Cops could catch you.