The Walking Dead Series 7 - No spoilers please.

[zygalski]

eltawater said:

Audiences are a funny bunch.

Ok with cannibals cooking and chowing down on a leg, guts being torn out and being eaten alive.

Not ok with brutal bashing of skulls.

Yes, but these are always small scenes or segments of an episode. The entire season 7 premiere was incredibly psychologically intense with relentless sadistic behaviour or at least the threat of it.
I think it's pointless comparing it with any previous episode.

[gregs656]

zygalski said:

Yes, but these are always small scenes or segments of an episode. The entire season 7 premiere was incredibly psychologically intense with relentless sadistic behaviour or at least the threat of it.
I think it's pointless comparing it with any previous episode.

Really? We've had a child murdering her sister and subsequently being executed. Sure there was more fake blood involved in this one but it's not like they have been setting a low bar for violence that provokes a reaction.

All I was thinking is this bloke must have a lot of enemies; coercing (*not* influencing) co-operation out of violent, resourceful people who have very little to loose doesn't seem like a strategy that will end well for him.

[blade runner]

gregs656 said:

Really? We've had a child murdering her sister and subsequently being executed. Sure there was more fake blood involved in this one but it's not like they have been setting a low bar for violence that provokes a reaction.

Just for the record, I found that episode far more disturbing than all the combined blood and gore to date.

[Hugo a Gogo]

yep, 'look at the flowers' was far more disturbing

[Digitalize]

At this point I find Negan probably the most likeable character in the show, either that or Simon. I actually like this new group more than the current group to be honest, from this small snippet. Will be interesting to see how they go forwards.

[FourWheelDrift]

Hugo a Gogo said:

yep, 'look at the flowers' was far more disturbing

[Sheets Tabuer]

Put a bit of jihadi music over it and orange jumpsuits and I would have sworn it was an ISIS propaganda video

[Scrubs]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/25/wa...

[DocJock]

Why are their kids watching post-watershed shows in the first place?

It's not as if there aren't sufficient warning about "extreme violence and gore" before we see a single frame anyway.

[FourWheelDrift]

Parents at fault. Blame culture, blame everyone else but themselves.

Negan and Lucille need to have a word with them.

[Marty Funkhouser]

Awesome start to the series - real shame to see great characters bite the dust. Going to be real interesting to see how/if the remaining crew can get revenge or just get out from under Negan's thumb.

The last ep of the last series was the most horrifying hour of TV I've ever seen. This weeks's ep topped it.

Bloody hell.

[Efbe]

Digitalize said:

At this point I find Negan probably the most likeable character in the show, either that or Simon. I actually like this new group more than the current group to be honest, from this small snippet. Will be interesting to see how they go forwards.

whilst I have already voiced my dislike for this episode, I also find myself liking Negan.

The episode made the main characters look like complete idiots, and Negan an interesting and intelligent nutjob.

Simon however looks quite like the guy at my local car tyre shop which probably takes the edge off him being Negan's right hand man.

[PowerslideSWE]

Brutal episode last night.

I see the very violent death of Negan in the not too distant future. Not too soon tho I hope, since Jeffrey Morgan is very entertaining as an actor.

[Digitalize]

[quote]Simon however looks quite like the guy at my local car tyre shop which probably takes the edge off him being Negan's right hand man.
[/quote]

I might just like Simon as I'm a fan of Steven Ogg in general, he plays the calculating psychopath nut job very well, something I expect we'll see but I could be wrong.

[Halb]

PowerslideSWE said:

Brutal episode last night.

I see the very violent death of Negan in the not too distant future. Not too soon tho I hope, since Jeffrey Morgan is very entertaining as an actor.

I doubt it. This ep (and the last one of last series) showed how utterly small and ste Rick's group are in comparison. I don't even see Negan being troubled at the end of this series. Maybe another beat down for Rick.

Jeffrey Morgan is a great actor, and he can make any character watchable. But I don't like Negan, he's a brutal killer. Brutal even beyond the culture he is in. Though he does have a strong moral code which he adheres to.

[ben5575]

Still think Stannis burning his daughter alive is still the most genuinely harrowing thing I've seen on TV, this was a close second, flowers third.

P-Jay said:

No, the plot didn't move far - the time line barely shifted a few hours, but my heart was going full tilt for the whole things.

I think it may be the complete opposite. The show has been building to that scene for several seasons now and with that episode has made a fundamental shift in direction. As others have pointed out, the zombies aren't the enemy anymore.

SeanyD said:

The series 5 Terminus Throat Slashing scene was for me off the scale, up there with the very worst of videos kicking around on the internet.

I read that scene as foreshadowing this one; Glenn on his knees, somebody about to take a swing at him...

Digitalize said:

At this point I find Negan probably the most likeable character in the show, either that or Simon.

Jesus is where it's at

[Digitalize]

ben5575 said:

jesus is where it's at

I can't stand Jesus. He reminds me of someone I dislike in real life which doesn't help.

[Patrick Bateman]

This being so drawn out makes it really uneasy viewing compared to something that's over relatively quickly.

[NJK44]

Efbe said:

whilst I have already voiced my dislike for this episode, I also find myself liking Negan.

The episode made the main characters look like complete idiots, and Negan an interesting and intelligent nutjob.

Simon however looks quite like the guy at my local car tyre shop which probably takes the edge off him being Negan's right hand man.

How are they made to look like idiots?..

[Calza]

Just watched this now, been a long day trying to avoid spoilers.

Wow!

That was a massively tense episode with a hell of a lot of gore, really surprised by how far they pushed the gore but it definitely added to the scene. The whole episode had me on the edge of my seat and I think it established things nicely.