The Walking Dead Series 7 - No spoilers please.

The Walking Dead Series 7 - No spoilers please.

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Brigand

2,544 posts

169 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Very intense episode with Negan giving a masterclass in how to subjugate someone. I'm guessing this is not the first time Negan has done such things, as he managed to break Rick down from the strong leader we've known him as to a snivelling wreck in a very short space of time.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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ben5575 said:
Still think Stannis burning his daughter alive is still the most genuinely harrowing thing I've seen on TV, this was a close second, flowers third.
Jesus, I'd forgotten about that, yep, that's at the top!

ben5575 said:
P-Jay said:
No, the plot didn't move far - the time line barely shifted a few hours, but my heart was going full tilt for the whole things.
I think it may be the complete opposite. The show has been building to that scene for several seasons now and with that episode has made a fundamental shift in direction. As others have pointed out, the zombies aren't the enemy anymore.
I agree, there was huge plot movement. Rick has been 'da man', since time immemorial, even against the Guv'nor. But this was Negan pushing the reset button, he almost had to do it twice, but ultimately, he broke, Rick Grimes, who has been through hell.


BossHogg

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6,010 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Watching Talking Dead live, catching up with clips of the two dearly departed, I was in stitches at some of Abraham's comments. laugh

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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BossHogg said:
Watching Talking Dead live, catching up with clips of the two dearly departed, I was in stitches at some of Abraham's comments. laugh
Ought to watch that, always thought it could be good!

BossHogg

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178 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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It's on catch-up. wink

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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BossHogg

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6,010 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Funny as hell at the end when Negan was being interviewed, Daryl cracked a witty comment, quick as a flash he replied its your fault Glenn's dead! biggrin The memorial section each week is quite witty. wink

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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blade runner said:
gregs656 said:
Really? We've had a child murdering her sister and subsequently being executed. Sure there was more fake blood involved in this one but it's not like they have been setting a low bar for violence that provokes a reaction.
Just for the record, I found that episode far more disturbing than all the combined blood and gore to date.
I thought it was too much, I've watched every episode since it started but I thought it was sadism as entertainment, torture porn, and it enjoyed it too much. You can accept the zombie violence, we know that we'll never meet zombies (sorry to break that to you) and that the zombies are a vehicle to be able to talk about other issues. But this was human on human (although we've seen that before) but it was prolonged, salacious and was clear it was done to push the audience as far as it could, as I've read elsewhere, way beyond where it was obvious that Rick was "broken" which of course he won't be quite really. I watched it all and thought about turning it off. So what next, what is beyond the pail? And there has been some response in the US. I've got it on series link still but I think I'm moving on, if they only idea the producers have is to push the torture further they've run out of ideas.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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I honestly don't think that level of gore will be the norm going forward, probably not until presumably Negan dies. It's a sit up and take notice, talk about it moment. Not just fade in with all the other gore.

You just couldn't have that episode with much less gore, it wouldn't be as effective, it wouldn't stand out. Some getting their head caved in with a bat covered in barbed wire is going to be exactly as they showed, slow, painful and not easy.

NJK44

1,364 posts

96 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Digitalize said:
Negan dies.
Gonna be waiting a loooong time for that.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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NJK44 said:
Gonna be waiting a loooong time for that.
Hopefully so.

BossHogg

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6,010 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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There are quite a few things planned for Negan, so he's going to be around for a while yet. wink

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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No comic book hinting come onnnnn

Doofus

25,807 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Brigand said:
Very intense episode with Negan giving a masterclass in how to subjugate someone. I'm guessing this is not the first time Negan has done such things, as he managed to break Rick down from the strong leader we've known him as to a snivelling wreck in a very short space of time.
To be fair, Rick's never been a strong leader. He's taken his group from one crisis to another, never had a clear plan, and only been 'in charge' because the others have inexplicably let him.

In the prison, he went all hippy, so they changed the leadership. As a result, and for the first time, they began to grow crops and build a community. When that all went south, they let Rick be in charge again, and consequently they lurched from one crisis to another.

court

1,487 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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BossHogg said:
Watching Talking Dead live, catching up with clips of the two dearly departed, I was in stitches at some of Abraham's comments. laugh
Did you see the clip of Glenn and Abe in the makeup trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQn5YcNcSc

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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It was funny to see Darrrrryl, be a lil hammered. biggrin

Brigand said:
Very intense episode with Negan giving a masterclass in how to subjugate someone. I'm guessing this is not the first time Negan has done such things, as he managed to break Rick down from the strong leader we've known him as to a snivelling wreck in a very short space of time.
Yarp. He's gotten it down to a fine skill so he knows when Rick is beaten and when he's not. Rick's group are only alive thanks to him, so it's a very animalistic thing to smack the leader and have all the ducklings follow a new leader.

Doofus

25,807 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Halb said:
Yarp. He's gotten it down to a fine skill so he knows when Rick is beaten and when he's not. Rick's group are only alive thanks to himCarol , so it's a very animalistic thing to smack the leader and have all the ducklings follow a new leader.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Doofus said:
hehe


Where is Carol?

Doofus

25,807 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Halb said:
hehe


Where is Carol?
She's had the common sense not to follow Rick down another blind alley wink

Gretchen

19,036 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Where's Judith? Did Regan's people have her? I can't recall.