The Walking Dead Series 7 - No spoilers please.

The Walking Dead Series 7 - No spoilers please.

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Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
Halb said:
type-r said:
Filler.

Also the ratings have plummeted now and "only" seeing 11m viewers in the US. Which is the lowest since Season 3. 11m is still huge though so plenty of life left in this series. Once Negan gets knocked out of the way, what next for the series. Surely it's not a case of going bigger or go home, AGAIN? The writers in my view need a new type of story-arc - get away from the rinse-and-repeat prisons, terminus', alexandria's and woodbury's - and find something more interesting!
Like what, vampires?
True Walking Dead Blood?
Van Helsing has filled this niche and to be honest is doing a better job of making the apocalypse interesting than the Walking Dead is. And they even showed/explained the what/why of the world ending and moved on.

And Z Nation provides a more interesting zombie fix a lot of the time.

And Ash vs Evil Dead manages much more gore and some pretty brutal and realistic looking SFX at times so even on that there's a better option.

So we'll just have to go with human drama in small communities as the USP.

willyjc

328 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Jonesy23 said:
And Ash vs Evil Dead manages much more gore and some pretty brutal and realistic looking SFX at times so even on that there's a better option.
Love Ash vs Evil Dead - if you haven't watched, you really should...

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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It's still an earner so the Network is milking it for all it's worth.
You lot want conclusive story lines with some sort of resolution?
Good luck with that.
Something like Breaking Bad was very rare in that it grew in popularity but had a set story arc which neither the writers nor the producers varied from, pretty much from the word go.

joema

2,648 posts

179 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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I think their thing is to stay hidden and found a spot they were happy with the huts already there.

There seems to be a lot more story to run before they attack Negan but at the rate they've been running we're in for a wait! hope not.

Tara and Heath can't have gone far. How far is viable realistically? Fuel must be limited. And probably old.

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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joema said:
Tara and Heath can't have gone far. How far is viable realistically? Fuel must be limited. And probably old.
They were gone for 2 weeks! They could have driven to the Pacific and back in that time. Of course though, they have no fuel. So where exactly have they been for 2 weeks? Even if you walked, you could easily travel 150+miles. Or have they found a town and systematically searched every single property? Unlikely as they'd be dead or found other people. It's just country back roads and small settlements. Surely they would have run out of fuel in a week, let alone 2 weeks? And not run into the Saviours or anyone else whilst out on the road? And then Tara walks back in a couple of days....

Calza

1,994 posts

115 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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eps said:
or.... they all club together but still get beaten by Negan. Then it builds up even more next Season for a mega showdown.
If they all get beaten in a showdown there won't be much a of a next season will there laugh

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Jonesy23 said:
So we'll just have to go with human drama in small communities as the USP.
The Archers?



The geography isn't an issue. The women found a secluded spot on an island(?) basically hiding in plain sight, they are hobbits. There was that secret village in a Welsh national park that was only discovered when a glider or something flew over it. It had been there years. The lesbian only 'found' it because she was helped by a hobbit when they would have normally killed her.

joema

2,648 posts

179 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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As long as they don't start the Helen and Rob storyline I'm happy they borrow some Archers storylines!

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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The card with PPP on it. It's a door scan card isn't it, the sort that they could have at Negans advanced HQ? Tara put the card in her back pocket, it could be the card needed to open the door into the weapons store at Negans or something else to help someone break in.

It would mean that some of Negan's people found the camper van and Heath and took him away, they didn't look further on so don't know about the Island of Lesbos, or they do and are coming back later.


eps

6,297 posts

269 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Calza said:
eps said:
or.... they all club together but still get beaten by Negan. Then it builds up even more next Season for a mega showdown.
If they all get beaten in a showdown there won't be much a of a next season will there laugh
Beaten but not destroyed, well not physically... mentally maybe but not physically smile

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I haven't watched any of Season 7 yet, they're all still on my SKY hard drive. I note that there are six episodes recorded, and nothing for next week. is this the mid-season break?

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Episode 7 is listed on the Sky planner next week 9pm on Fox as normal.

Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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croyde said:
I didn't mind last night's show. It was OK, just didn't feel like an episode of WD.
That's because it wasn't in the comics at all whereas most of what you see in the show is either taken directly or slightly reworked from the comic book material. Thus it felt a bit 'different' to most eps.

Hopefully this means that they will go in a different direction for the conclusion of the current story arc, I really didn't like how they handled it in the comics.


Lucas Ayde

3,557 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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TEKNOPUG said:
No, the Oceanside women knew about the Satellite station. There was no suggestion that they knew that they had been killed until Tara told them and nothing was inferred by their dialogue that suggested that the Alexandria attack on the Satellite station had anything to do with Negan killing their men. Remember that they are supposed to be hiding and kill all strangers on sight. So it would seem improbable that news would have carried to them that the Satellite station had been attacked.

That was my understanding anyway.
It seems that the Oceanside women had much better intel on Negans forces than the Alexandrians/ Hilltop had prior to their attack... Team Rick attacked the station under the impression that it was Negan's HQ, not just an outpost.

Really, shows what a bad leader Rick was. I know that Maggie was the one who did the deal with the Hilltop but Rick was the one who was leading the offensive against Negan without any understanding of what the true extent of his forces were. If they'd bided their time to do their intelligence gathering/planning and managed to team up with the Kingdom and other groups PRIOR to being completely pwned by Negan and losing all their weapons, they might have been able to take him down.




SpudLink

5,786 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Halb said:
Jonesy23 said:
So we'll just have to go with human drama in small communities as the USP.
The Archers?

That was season 2.smile

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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TEKNOPUG said:
joema said:
Tara and Heath can't have gone far. How far is viable realistically? Fuel must be limited. And probably old.
They were gone for 2 weeks! They could have driven to the Pacific and back in that time. Of course though, they have no fuel. So where exactly have they been for 2 weeks? Even if you walked, you could easily travel 150+miles. Or have they found a town and systematically searched every single property? Unlikely as they'd be dead or found other people. It's just country back roads and small settlements. Surely they would have run out of fuel in a week, let alone 2 weeks? And not run into the Saviours or anyone else whilst out on the road? And then Tara walks back in a couple of days....
Disagree I'm afraid.

Scavenging would involve going slowly from village to village, covering the whole of an area, working in a pattern, not a straight line.
You would be aiming probably to cover a square on a map, or a set few towns in an area.
The drving part would just be getting from town to town, scavenging would involve going door to door on foot and hecking every room,cupboard and vehicle in each one. Extremely time consuming and slow.
It is notdrive in a straight line for two weeks. You wouldn't find a thing.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Efbe said:
TEKNOPUG said:
joema said:
Tara and Heath can't have gone far. How far is viable realistically? Fuel must be limited. And probably old.
They were gone for 2 weeks! They could have driven to the Pacific and back in that time. Of course though, they have no fuel. So where exactly have they been for 2 weeks? Even if you walked, you could easily travel 150+miles. Or have they found a town and systematically searched every single property? Unlikely as they'd be dead or found other people. It's just country back roads and small settlements. Surely they would have run out of fuel in a week, let alone 2 weeks? And not run into the Saviours or anyone else whilst out on the road? And then Tara walks back in a couple of days....
Disagree I'm afraid.

Scavenging would involve going slowly from village to village, covering the whole of an area, working in a pattern, not a straight line.
You would be aiming probably to cover a square on a map, or a set few towns in an area.
The drving part would just be getting from town to town, scavenging would involve going door to door on foot and hecking every room,cupboard and vehicle in each one. Extremely time consuming and slow.
It is notdrive in a straight line for two weeks. You wouldn't find a thing.
I would have to agree with Efbe. I had thought the same when I read the suggestions about how far they could have got. YOu would definitely be searching for small holdings etc.

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Also, just to add in here: Absolutely loved this episode. Best in the series so far

Tara is a great character, interesting and fun. A bit different, a bit more of a 'normal' person you could imagine meeting or knowing rather than the slightly odd and caricatured people the main characters have turned into.
It was a guess after the first episode that we would see Rick & co. withdraw and let the lesser characters come forward and drive the plot lines, and seems I was right smile

Oceanside will have to play more of a part in this now, whether that is just to be overrun by the saviors, or an emerging netwrk of communities that end up standing up to Negan we will have to see. I still expect to see a revolt from within the saviors first though, through either Simon or Dwight, probably the latter, and probably a failed one!

texaxile

3,290 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Wasn't the actress preggers in the last season, hence some unusual camera work when she was in scene?.

I enjoyed the ep, but right from the start I knew it was going to be a bit of a "filler". Tara pulling on the duffle bag was always going to end in some kind of bad stuff.

Continuity error though, didn't Tara drop her knife when the other girl pointed the gun at her, then later on she has it stuck in her belt when walking toward Eugene.Possibly.

Really liked what they did with the black woman on the bridge though.

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Bit of a dull filler.

And why are they still acting like idiots. Zombies in a contained area, right let's wade in rather than pick them off one by one with the spear.

Did anyone notice the container full of weapons when the girls mobilised. That will be the reason for going back, Negan has all the guns.