Can't Pay? We'll Take it away
Discussion
The Spruce goose said:
I wonder if they bothered to look at who owns the house he lives in to put a charge against it for the debt!?Sheets Tabuer said:
I'm very surprised they are allowed to go around with high court enforcement and the coat of arms on them and declaring themselves to be high court enforcement when they are in fact bailiffs from a company called DCBL.
From their website-->DCBL said:
The Board of Directors at DCBL which includes an authorised High Court Enforcement Officer (Formally Known as Sheriffs officer)
Am wondering if it is not unlike a solicitor's office where there might only be one solicitor spread over many offices? Does seem a tad strange though. Sheets Tabuer said:
I'm very surprised they are allowed to go around with high court enforcement and the coat of arms on them and declaring themselves to be high court enforcement when they are in fact bailiffs from a company called DCBL.
I am even more surprised that people let things go so far as court action, followed by High Court action, with costs being added on to costs.The Spruce goose said:
that cocky kid played the system. 45k worth thou written off.
I wish I had the nous to do it, I know someone who has built up debts of around £40k... TWICE!! And each time they've just defaulted on repayments and ended up coming to informal agreements with the various creditors to only pay back a fraction (around 25%) of the amount owed.One thing I don't understand is how these bailiffs can turn up to an address and when payment is not forthcoming they are able to clamp cars? When the people owing the money say it isn't theirs the bailiffs ask for proof, the V5 is produced and they tell them that’s not proof (rightly so) that’s just who the registered keeper is? Shouldn't it be up to the bailiffs to prove it is their car and therefore they are able to remove? Otherwise surely it would be theft if the car is removed by them?
How do you prove the car isn't yours? My cars I registered in my name, I have bill of sale to say I have purchased them but surely that isn't proof I own them because there may be a later BOS if I had sold them to someone else?
How do you prove the car isn't yours? My cars I registered in my name, I have bill of sale to say I have purchased them but surely that isn't proof I own them because there may be a later BOS if I had sold them to someone else?
Lensey said:
How do you prove the car isn't yours? My cars I registered in my name, I have bill of sale to say I have purchased them but surely that isn't proof I own them because there may be a later BOS if I had sold them to someone else?
The assumption is that the car is yours unless you can prove otherwise. Civil law is on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt, so if it's on your driveway and you have the keys and you can't provide any proof otherwise, that looks "good enough".proof of ownership can be hard. the bailiffs in these programme complete against t the high court, the highest court in the land, so have a lot more powers over a county court judgment or no judgement.
The one thing I have learnt, which is what the intelligent or not intelligent debtors do is get loads of loans against assets so nothing can be taken.
Putting assets in ltd companies names is another, the bailiffs are fckked. I think it shows that basically the bailiffs works on a set piece of actions to get debts.
The one thing I have learnt, which is what the intelligent or not intelligent debtors do is get loads of loans against assets so nothing can be taken.
Putting assets in ltd companies names is another, the bailiffs are fckked. I think it shows that basically the bailiffs works on a set piece of actions to get debts.
So how can you prove who actually owns a vehicle?
I've got a company car, it's on my drive, I have both keys, the V5 is in the company name, would the bailiff see this as my car and remove it?
I suppose this is the same for the Police, I've noticed this on other programmes when Police stop someone they ask is it your car? How do they know that person is telling the truth?
I find it all a bit bizarre that in this day and age we don't have a part on the V5 that states who actually owns the vehicle?
I've got a company car, it's on my drive, I have both keys, the V5 is in the company name, would the bailiff see this as my car and remove it?
I suppose this is the same for the Police, I've noticed this on other programmes when Police stop someone they ask is it your car? How do they know that person is telling the truth?
I find it all a bit bizarre that in this day and age we don't have a part on the V5 that states who actually owns the vehicle?
Yes, I reckon they do as most the time they are in the wrong anyway 
It's just something that I suddenly thought about, how do you prove you own a vehicle? I could show a BOS for my car two years ago but whats to say I haven't sold to someone else since then and have another BOS that I'm not showing? I suppose it can't be too big a problem otherwise it would've been addressed?
It's just something that I suddenly thought about, how do you prove you own a vehicle? I could show a BOS for my car two years ago but whats to say I haven't sold to someone else since then and have another BOS that I'm not showing? I suppose it can't be too big a problem otherwise it would've been addressed?What bothers me, is that they say they will empty the parents house of their possessions, for a child that lives there?
On the recent one I saw, it was an Asian family in a nice house, and the son had the debt. They start to take the parents TV from the lounge, to the dismay of the father, and said if he carnt prove its his, then tough. Whilst it worked, and the kid paid up, surely thats not right?
On balance, I think you could argue that stuff in his room can be taken, i.e. laptop, ipod, wall TV etc, but to take the general stuff from the family house, when any normal person knows thats not going to belong to the child.... Not right?? And if the Bailif should reasonably know it doesnt belong to the child, then thats theft??
On the recent one I saw, it was an Asian family in a nice house, and the son had the debt. They start to take the parents TV from the lounge, to the dismay of the father, and said if he carnt prove its his, then tough. Whilst it worked, and the kid paid up, surely thats not right?
On balance, I think you could argue that stuff in his room can be taken, i.e. laptop, ipod, wall TV etc, but to take the general stuff from the family house, when any normal person knows thats not going to belong to the child.... Not right?? And if the Bailif should reasonably know it doesnt belong to the child, then thats theft??
Trax said:
What bothers me, is that they say they will empty the parents house of their possessions, for a child that lives there?
On the recent one I saw, it was an Asian family in a nice house, and the son had the debt. They start to take the parents TV from the lounge, to the dismay of the father, and said if he carnt prove its his, then tough. Whilst it worked, and the kid paid up, surely thats not right?
On balance, I think you could argue that stuff in his room can be taken, i.e. laptop, ipod, wall TV etc, but to take the general stuff from the family house, when any normal person knows thats not going to belong to the child.... Not right?? And if the Bailif should reasonably know it doesnt belong to the child, then thats theft??
Yes, I saw this and thought the same thing, it looked like the Dad was trying to teach the son a lesson and the bailiffs completely undermined him! It was obvious that they were not the debtor’s possessions, I wondered how they would get away with it. Again, if they took the goods and the father produced receipts surely its theft?On the recent one I saw, it was an Asian family in a nice house, and the son had the debt. They start to take the parents TV from the lounge, to the dismay of the father, and said if he carnt prove its his, then tough. Whilst it worked, and the kid paid up, surely thats not right?
On balance, I think you could argue that stuff in his room can be taken, i.e. laptop, ipod, wall TV etc, but to take the general stuff from the family house, when any normal person knows thats not going to belong to the child.... Not right?? And if the Bailif should reasonably know it doesnt belong to the child, then thats theft??
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