Planet Earth 2
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ClockworkCupcake said:
Anyone else feel that this series feels somewhat squeamish and reluctant to show the natural working of the food chain?
With some of them I assume it's because they simply haven't captured the kill. The Namib lions had 2 hunts filmed (both amazingly well) but they were unsuccessful and those lions are presumably pretty bloomin tricky to find and film hunting even when they have tracker collard. Likewise with the hawks if they're hunting in random cactus scrub patches it might be a bit difficult getting any kind of real kill type shot.
Who knows. I'm not squeemish with these things and would happily see the hunts and kills as it's just a fascinating part of nature. I find people (like my girlfriends dad) who go out of their way not to watch lion hunts etc (and even complain that it's gratuitous - it's not f
king Game of Thrones is it...) really very weird. What do they think wildlife does all day all around them?Japveesix said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Anyone else feel that this series feels somewhat squeamish and reluctant to show the natural working of the food chain?
With some of them I assume it's because they simply haven't captured the kill. The Namib lions had 2 hunts filmed (both amazingly well) but they were unsuccessful and those lions are presumably pretty bloomin tricky to find and film hunting even when they have tracker collard. Likewise with the hawks if they're hunting in random cactus scrub patches it might be a bit difficult getting any kind of real kill type shot.
Who knows. I'm not squeemish with these things and would happily see the hunts and kills as it's just a fascinating part of nature. I find people (like my girlfriends dad) who go out of their way not to watch lion hunts etc (and even complain that it's gratuitous - it's not f
king Game of Thrones is it...) really very weird. What do they think wildlife does all day all around them?james_tigerwoods said:
I just saw something about 150 THOUSAND antelope (I think) dying and being shown..
Read about this yesterday, it's on next weeks show.150,000 had gathered in one place to give birth and a ridiculously virulent disease swept through the herd and killed almost all of them in 3 days. Apparently the crew thought they were witnessing the extinction of a species but a handful managed to survive. Crazy.
OzzyR1 said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I just saw something about 150 THOUSAND antelope (I think) dying and being shown..
Read about this yesterday, it's on next weeks show.150,000 had gathered in one place to give birth and a ridiculously virulent disease swept through the herd and killed almost all of them in 3 days. Apparently the crew thought they were witnessing the extinction of a species but a handful managed to survive. Crazy.
News article from last year for those interested, remember reading it at the time, scary stuff https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/0...
After the initial episode showed us so many things "for the first time" I'm finding that, as weeks go on, it's just becoming a bit 'plain' where I've seen it all before with not much 'new and exciting' stuff to talk about next day.
I mean, remember the racing snakes in the first episode and how that captured the publics interest and the talk at work the next day was all about it! Well compared to the last episode where the Lion/Giraffe was the only talking point and it was barely mentioned.
I'm hoping the next episode will be 'better' but I think most people will only be talking about the deaths of those 150,000 antelopes.
I mean, remember the racing snakes in the first episode and how that captured the publics interest and the talk at work the next day was all about it! Well compared to the last episode where the Lion/Giraffe was the only talking point and it was barely mentioned.
I'm hoping the next episode will be 'better' but I think most people will only be talking about the deaths of those 150,000 antelopes.
I'm not suggesting for one minute that this show should be some sort of gore-fest, but it seems to me that EVERY large cat/tiger/lion hunt shown on Planet Earth 2 appears to 'fail'. Surely they didn't send an entire TV production team, with 4K cameras, drones, spy-cams, & wildlife experts half way round the world to consistently film failed hunts? There must have been some 'successful' kills - perhaps the BBC think we're too squeamish??
Beautiful cinematography showcase, but apart from the first episode with the hunting snakes, there doesn't appear to be much excitement.
Beautiful cinematography showcase, but apart from the first episode with the hunting snakes, there doesn't appear to be much excitement.
Biker 1 said:
I'm not suggesting for one minute that this show should be some sort of gore-fest, but it seems to me that EVERY large cat/tiger/lion hunt shown on Planet Earth 2 appears to 'fail'. Surely they didn't send an entire TV production team, with 4K cameras, drones, spy-cams, & wildlife experts half way round the world to consistently film failed hunts? There must have been some 'successful' kills - perhaps the BBC think we're too squeamish??
Indeed. I might have mentioned a similar sentiment once or twice. 
Biker 1 said:
I'm not suggesting for one minute that this show should be some sort of gore-fest, but it seems to me that EVERY large cat/tiger/lion hunt shown on Planet Earth 2 appears to 'fail'. Surely they didn't send an entire TV production team, with 4K cameras, drones, spy-cams, & wildlife experts half way round the world to consistently film failed hunts? There must have been some 'successful' kills - perhaps the BBC think we're too squeamish??
Beautiful cinematography showcase, but apart from the first episode with the hunting snakes, there doesn't appear to be much excitement.
It seems to follow a trend of showing animals people might care about (cute jumping hamster, any cowlike animal outnumbered by lions) surviving and other rubbish animals people might not like getting it like (locusts, scraggy vole thing in the snow.) Beautiful cinematography showcase, but apart from the first episode with the hunting snakes, there doesn't appear to be much excitement.
I think it's done like this for watching with kids, bad animals get eaten nice animals get away.
Biker 1 said:
I'm not suggesting for one minute that this show should be some sort of gore-fest, but it seems to me that EVERY large cat/tiger/lion hunt shown on Planet Earth 2 appears to 'fail'. Surely they didn't send an entire TV production team, with 4K cameras, drones, spy-cams, & wildlife experts half way round the world to consistently film failed hunts? There must have been some 'successful' kills - perhaps the BBC think we're too squeamish??.
Really? They showed a lion hanging on to the back of the buffalo with claws dug in, teeth pulling out a big chunk of skin and blood everywhere. In closeup.Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not that easy to capture (in perfect multiple angle HD detail) a successful hunt in a huge impenetrable wetland area with a pride that spend 20+ hours a day sleeping and are only successful with 1/10 or whatever hunts. But who knows.
wasn't it a wolf pack and bison - eventually after about 6 hours of chasing they collapsed exhausted within feet of each other?
I can't recall if they killed the bison or if as sometimes happens the herd came back to rescue the straggler - I've seen that before and it is quite remarkable footage.
I can't recall if they killed the bison or if as sometimes happens the herd came back to rescue the straggler - I've seen that before and it is quite remarkable footage.
Nom de ploom said:
wasn't it a wolf pack and bison - eventually after about 6 hours of chasing they collapsed exhausted within feet of each other?
I can't recall if they killed the bison or if as sometimes happens the herd came back to rescue the straggler - I've seen that before and it is quite remarkable footage.
From Frozen planet - well this is the one I was thinking of:I can't recall if they killed the bison or if as sometimes happens the herd came back to rescue the straggler - I've seen that before and it is quite remarkable footage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00mry8v
Ends with one wolf fighting a young bison to the death over a period of hours.
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