Westworld (WITH SPOILERS!!)

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Jonesy23

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Wednesday 9th November 2016
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As some people seem to have gone a bit overboard adding a non-spoilers thing to the other thread here's one without that limitation where we can discuss this show properly at the same time as discussion and reviews are appearing in the rest of the world.

The warning in the title is hopefully big enough.

This may also include discussing the previews for the next episodes...

Watchman

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Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Bookmarked

ICallCustard

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Wednesday 9th November 2016
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Watchman said:
Bookmarked
Sorry that's not a spoiler. The rules specifically state that every post in this thread must include a spoiler.

Oakey

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Wednesday 9th November 2016
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ICallCustard said:
Sorry that's not a spoiler. The rules specifically state that every post in this thread must include a spoiler.
Here's your spoiler: You will die alone!

ICallCustard

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Wednesday 9th November 2016
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That cut to the chase

Jonesy23

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Drive Blind

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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clap

Gazzas86

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Checking in!!

Oakey

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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So do we all think Teddy is Wyatt? That's the implication, right?

Jonesy23

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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If he isn't / wasn't Wyatt then he was certainly in charge to some level and did a lot of bad stuff.

A question would be how much of the new behaviour is from the changes Ford has done for his new story and how much is from the fiddling that Arnold or whoever has been doing via the back door.

The preview for the next episode has a nice bit of Host violence in it which might be a demo of a fault someone has introduced. Or it might be showing what the machines could do if used for something other than a theme park.

Watchman

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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We saw Wyatt at the massacre that Teddy was an accomplice in, didn't we?

I have another Q... When Bernard was reviewing numbers of hosts at various locations on the map, there were some larger numbers than the 5 associated with Ford's little family experiment. I probably need to watch it again but I'm sure I saw numbers in the "teens" during that scene. Did I misunderstand something?

Watchman

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Another one, Logan was beaten hard by the hosts in the previous ep. I was surprised at the level of violence they were allowed to perpetrate on guests. Was this explained anywhere?

Oakey

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Watchman said:
We saw Wyatt at the massacre that Teddy was an accomplice in, didn't we?
We saw someone, but as that Vanity Fair article pointed out, Teddy's uniform had the three stripes of a sergeant whilst the other guy's didn't.

Jonesy23

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Watchman said:
Another one, Logan was beaten hard by the hosts in the previous ep. I was surprised at the level of violence they were allowed to perpetrate on guests. Was this explained anywhere?
Lower safety limits as you get further out/deeper into the game and get more realism. I don't think you can die (it was said you couldn't?) but a good kicking would be within the rules along with other nastiness.

The central part is basically Disneyland, they even shut down and cleaned up the robbery because a couple of families were on their way over.

ICallCustard

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Don't think Bernard is Arnold now.

Reckon ford hand a hand in his death though. I think he maybe helped him get to the other side so he could complete his work

Jonesy23

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Robot copies of people and robots on the staff would mean that ***SPOILER - only came out in 1976!!!*** someone has seen Futureworld too.


Watchman

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Jonesy23 said:
Watchman said:
Another one, Logan was beaten hard by the hosts in the previous ep. I was surprised at the level of violence they were allowed to perpetrate on guests. Was this explained anywhere?
Lower safety limits as you get further out/deeper into the game and get more realism. I don't think you can die (it was said you couldn't?) but a good kicking would be within the rules along with other nastiness.

The central part is basically Disneyland, they even shut down and cleaned up the robbery because a couple of families were on their way over.
Thanks. I do love the subtlety of this series, even though I will have to watch it all over again. I will too.

Watchman

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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Oakey said:
Watchman said:
We saw Wyatt at the massacre that Teddy was an accomplice in, didn't we?
We saw someone, but as that Vanity Fair article pointed out, Teddy's uniform had the three stripes of a sergeant whilst the other guy's didn't.
Ah, something else I missed. Thanks.

Watchman

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Thursday 10th November 2016
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I can't shake the feeling that Arnold is related to one of them in some way.

Watchman

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Saturday 12th November 2016
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Watchman said:
We saw Wyatt at the massacre that Teddy was an accomplice in, didn't we?

I have another Q... When Bernard was reviewing numbers of hosts at various locations on the map, there were some larger numbers than the 5 associated with Ford's little family experiment. I probably need to watch it again but I'm sure I saw numbers in the "teens" during that scene. Did I misunderstand something?
No - I was wrong - just watched it again. I mistook [5] for 15. So that's the family of 4 plus their dog.

Watching again, managed to pause and step-through the brief depiction of Yul Brynner too - he was definitely wearing a black shirt (someone in the other thread mentioned blue) but it was faded to a sort of belly-button-fluff grey/blue.