The Grand Tour
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I really enjoyed no.3 apart from the Hellcat noise joke wearing a bit thin towards the end.
The celeb bit isn't working though, hopefully it will be quietly dropped.
It does seem odd they take the time and money to travel yet never go out and about in the area and see the sights and local cars/clubs etc
The celeb bit isn't working though, hopefully it will be quietly dropped.
It does seem odd they take the time and money to travel yet never go out and about in the area and see the sights and local cars/clubs etc
Still watching, still enjoying.
Watched episode 3 after reading some comments here and was a bit disapointed but it was OK.
Wished I'd paid more attention at school as I now want a brown Aston Martin and the only way I'm likely to be able to afford that car is if I sell several major body parts or send the wife out offering sexual favours (just working on her profile for adultwork.com).
I really like some of Clarkson's work but despite his talents, I am starting to find him annoying.
Watched episode 3 after reading some comments here and was a bit disapointed but it was OK.
Wished I'd paid more attention at school as I now want a brown Aston Martin and the only way I'm likely to be able to afford that car is if I sell several major body parts or send the wife out offering sexual favours (just working on her profile for adultwork.com).
I really like some of Clarkson's work but despite his talents, I am starting to find him annoying.
Just watched #3 and I reckon they're getting it together, it seemed much more relaxed than #2 and they're finding their feet. It's a tough call, with Top Gear the primary audience was the BBC UK, now they have to give an international feel to their programs so it's not going to please everyone.
But good photography and brain out entertainment even with some old cliche jokes, that's what I used to watch old TG for. Well done guys.
But good photography and brain out entertainment even with some old cliche jokes, that's what I used to watch old TG for. Well done guys.
I watched episode three last night and overall it felt a bit'meh'. All the ingredients were there for an outstanding show - great scenery, fantastic cars and plenty opportunity and budget for cocking about; however it just didn't do it for me.
So, what was missing? For me, the subtle change is that the three lads have changed from (more or less) being themselves to now being caricatures - actors/characters created, directed and controlled to a (mostly) not very good script. I get the impression that they've been told exactly what to say, how to look and act - the spontaneity and individuality has gone.
I know it's always been scripted, but at least before you could see their true personality and thoughts shine through, not someone else's idea of whom they should be.
I'll continue to watch, as I'm sure there will still be moments of brilliance, however based on the three episodes I've seen so far I wouldn't say it's as good as TG.
So, what was missing? For me, the subtle change is that the three lads have changed from (more or less) being themselves to now being caricatures - actors/characters created, directed and controlled to a (mostly) not very good script. I get the impression that they've been told exactly what to say, how to look and act - the spontaneity and individuality has gone.
I know it's always been scripted, but at least before you could see their true personality and thoughts shine through, not someone else's idea of whom they should be.
I'll continue to watch, as I'm sure there will still be moments of brilliance, however based on the three episodes I've seen so far I wouldn't say it's as good as TG.
b2hbm said:
Just watched #3 and I reckon they're getting it together
It's funny, I thought exactly the opposite, the italy jokes felt especially forced, the smashing the house felt shoehorned in and the celeb death was weak and has run its course.At least there was no American this week.
Still an entertaining watch overall though.
Rich_W said:
Whilst some of the jokes got a good chuckle from the audience. There was an awful lot of canned laughter on that episode!
I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
The canned laughter is intolerable. The humour is forced and unnatural. I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
I can't imagine where all the budget has gone, they've just produced a much more expensive version of top gear which isn't actually as good in any way, they've got all this tallent and budget and all they can come up with is a knock off from an already tired old show. It's just rubbish.
El stovey said:
Rich_W said:
Whilst some of the jokes got a good chuckle from the audience. There was an awful lot of canned laughter on that episode!
I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
The canned laughter is intolerable. The humour is forced and unnatural. I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
I can't imagine where all the budget has gone, they've just produced a much more expensive version of top gear which isn't actually as good in any way, they've got all this tallent and budget and all they can come up with is a knock off from an already tired old show. It's just rubbish.
El stovey said:
Rich_W said:
Whilst some of the jokes got a good chuckle from the audience. There was an awful lot of canned laughter on that episode!
I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
The canned laughter is intolerable. The humour is forced and unnatural. I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
I can't imagine where all the budget has gone, they've just produced a much more expensive version of top gear which isn't actually as good in any way, they've got all this tallent and budget and all they can come up with is a knock off from an already tired old show. It's just rubbish.
The papers made a big issue of it on Top Gear and it was repeated a million times as a big negative. The same papers tell us The Grand Tour is amazing and people are repeating that.
Driver101 said:
El stovey said:
Rich_W said:
Whilst some of the jokes got a good chuckle from the audience. There was an awful lot of canned laughter on that episode!
I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
The canned laughter is intolerable. The humour is forced and unnatural. I'm baffled as to why people are saying "they'll get into it" though. They've been making the show in the near exact same fashion since 2004
I can't imagine where all the budget has gone, they've just produced a much more expensive version of top gear which isn't actually as good in any way, they've got all this tallent and budget and all they can come up with is a knock off from an already tired old show. It's just rubbish.
The papers made a big issue of it on Top Gear and it was repeated a million times as a big negative. The same papers tell us The Grand Tour is amazing and people are repeating that.
t, as were the first two episodes of Grand Tour. Three was much, much better.The problem I have with the show is that it is all fully scripted now and they are terrible actors. The "twitch" in the last episode was awful.
It used to be scripted for sure, but in a much more natural way. i.e. Jeremy do your oafish power thing, James do your anal retentive planning shtick, Hammond do your childish schoolboy act, now go get these 4x4's off that raft.
The scenarios were contrived, but you could tell that they were just riffing off each other in the main when trying to accomplish the task and it was so much more watchable because of that.
Now, it's easy to tell that virtually every line is scripted, and they just can't do it very well.
It used to be scripted for sure, but in a much more natural way. i.e. Jeremy do your oafish power thing, James do your anal retentive planning shtick, Hammond do your childish schoolboy act, now go get these 4x4's off that raft.
The scenarios were contrived, but you could tell that they were just riffing off each other in the main when trying to accomplish the task and it was so much more watchable because of that.
Now, it's easy to tell that virtually every line is scripted, and they just can't do it very well.
trooperiziz said:
The problem I have with the show is that it is all fully scripted now and they are terrible actors. The "twitch" in the last episode was awful.
It used to be scripted for sure, but in a much more natural way. i.e. Jeremy do your oafish power thing, James do your anal retentive planning shtick, Hammond do your childish schoolboy act, now go get these 4x4's off that raft.
The scenarios were contrived, but you could tell that they were just riffing off each other in the main when trying to accomplish the task and it was so much more watchable because of that.
Now, it's easy to tell that virtually every line is scripted, and they just can't do it very well.
Have to agree with this. Actually, I was one of those people that would watch TG for the car bits then slate the show for being scripted. But then came to the realisation that it is no more (much less in fact) scripted than a sketch show and if you can enjoy a scripted sketch show, then why not a car show?It used to be scripted for sure, but in a much more natural way. i.e. Jeremy do your oafish power thing, James do your anal retentive planning shtick, Hammond do your childish schoolboy act, now go get these 4x4's off that raft.
The scenarios were contrived, but you could tell that they were just riffing off each other in the main when trying to accomplish the task and it was so much more watchable because of that.
Now, it's easy to tell that virtually every line is scripted, and they just can't do it very well.
Richard Porters book he wrote after it all ended seemed like a fairly honest assessment and confirmed that the script comprised of bullet points plus some 1-liners but beyond that the 3 of them were able to make it up as they went along. As much as people may slate the BBC they gave them the freedom to work like this whereas I expect the millions Amazon has thrown at this means they have a control freak producer in place meaning everything is scripted to the last word and it's worse for it. That said it is getting better.
Also agree with the point on Evans TG. The way it got panned after one episode was ridiculous when compared to reviews of GT.
Disastrous said:
Enjoyed the first episode a lot but have just turned off three quarters through the second. Boring, stilted, awkward, forced and st. This is really dreadful television.
Worth giving the 3rd a go?
I would say so. They seem to manage the tent bits better, UK audience maybe helps, the road trips amusing as well.t. This is really dreadful television.Worth giving the 3rd a go?
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