The Grand Tour

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768

13,681 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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But for some inexplicable reason, people who watch TGT do have an interest in IMDB?

Come on.

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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768 said:
But for some inexplicable reason, people who watch TGT do have an interest in IMDB?

Come on.
Clearly they do. Look how often it's mentioned in all the TGT threads. Read the TGT Facebook page and read all the back patting amongst viewers for high IMDB ratings.

Look how many reviews TGT has got in 2 months compared to shows with significantly higher audiences that have been on TV for years. It doesn't add up.

Funk

26,277 posts

209 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Here's an example of what I find frustrating about TGT.

They spent several minutes talking about the amazing car museum near Nashville where they spent hours enjoying the cars - why the fk wasn't there a feature on it rather than a few stock photos of cars they looked at? Why go to Nashville if you're not going to do anything relating to the location? Massive missed opportunity and I'd have loved to see what they clearly enjoyed so much.

Stop the crap and let the guys do what we know they can do; enthusing and demonstrating their passion for cars.

I'm disappointed at what it is vs what I thought and hoped it might be. I've already cancelled the Prime auto renewal.

ClockworkCupcake

74,558 posts

272 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Funk said:
Here's an example of what I find frustrating about TGT.

They spent several minutes talking about the amazing car museum near Nashville where they spent hours enjoying the cars - why the fk wasn't there a feature on it rather than a few stock photos of cars they looked at? Why go to Nashville if you're not going to do anything relating to the location? Massive missed opportunity and I'd have loved to see what they clearly enjoyed so much.
I agree. Huge wasted opportunity. yes

It's one of the reasons I like watching Chasing Classic Cars. They may not show much in the way of the actual restoration of the cars, but Wayne Carini tends to visit a lot of interesting car shows, museums, and the like which I find interesting.

Still, as others have said, maybe stuff like that doesn't have wide appeal and isn't desired by the target audience (whatever it may be).

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Driver101 said:
Clearly they do. Look how often it's mentioned in all the TGT threads. Read the TGT Facebook page and read all the back patting amongst viewers for high IMDB ratings.

Look how many reviews TGT has got in 2 months compared to shows with significantly higher audiences that have been on TV for years. It doesn't add up.
The average terrestrial programme viewer is probably less likely to review than the average online-only programme viewer. They're probably also less likely to review shows that predate the web than new ones.

It has a fraction of the number of reviews Stranger Things has and that's a non-Amazon streaming show from a few months before it.

There's nothing here that doesn't add up. Lots of people like it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Driver101 said:
768 said:
But for some inexplicable reason, people who watch TGT do have an interest in IMDB?

Come on.
Clearly they do. Look how often it's mentioned in all the TGT threads. Read the TGT Facebook page and read all the back patting amongst viewers for high IMDB ratings.

Look how many reviews TGT has got in 2 months compared to shows with significantly higher audiences that have been on TV for years. It doesn't add up.
That's definitely the case. A friend of mine from university works for Amazon and he said that the ratings for the grand tour are being taken with a pinch of salt. They've obviously got all kinds of information about how people watch it on Amazon. The scores are way out of whack with viewing numbers. Fans also perhaps think that they have to give it 10/10 to keep it being aired.

As soon as it was released there was all these 10/10 reviews saying the show was perfect and much better than top gear. Then after a few weeks more balanced viewers come on and give it more realistic reviews and the ratings slowly fall.for each episode.

I think it's a tribal thing. You see the same on here where fans are overly defensive about any criticism of the show. You never see that on threads about other tv shows.

If I watch something and post that I liked it and someone else watches it and says it's rubbish, I couldn't care less. It certainly wouldn't affect my enjoyment one bit or make me tell them to stop posting on the thread.

Anything with Clarkson in certainly seems to attract a more decout following. hehe

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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768 said:
A 9.1 on IMDB is quite impressive. Plenty of great TV series with lower ratings than that.
As mentioned previously when 3 blokes making unfunny low rent TV outscores stuff like Game of Thrones, House of Cards, The Wire or any other number of demonstrably better shows.

Then I will assume the reviews are fake. Not in the sense that Amazon employees are writing them. I think it's the lowest IQ types who would pay money to see CHM sit in a room, not talk and eat biscuits and drink tea for an hour. Then rate it 10/10!


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Funk said:
Here's an example of what I find frustrating about TGT.

They spent several minutes talking about the amazing car museum near Nashville where they spent hours enjoying the cars - why the fk wasn't there a feature on it rather than a few stock photos of cars they looked at? Why go to Nashville if you're not going to do anything relating to the location? Massive missed opportunity and I'd have loved to see what they clearly enjoyed so much.

Stop the crap and let the guys do what we know they can do; enthusing and demonstrating their passion for cars.

I'm disappointed at what it is vs what I thought and hoped it might be. I've already cancelled the Prime auto renewal.
There seems to be a lot of talking about stuff they've done but never actually show. Preparing all the different cars they've been using for one. I can't help but wonder if they're planning a DVD with "all the stuff we did but didn't have time to show" type thing.

768

13,681 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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It's a conspiracy! hehe

popeyewhite

19,875 posts

120 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Driver101 said:
The majority of the comments about the show are negative.That doesn't read well to me.
Yep definitely reflects the opinion of the rest of the UK and countries that TGT is broadcast/streamed to. biggrin


VictoriaYorks

974 posts

142 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Funk said:
Here's an example of what I find frustrating about TGT.

They spent several minutes talking about the amazing car museum near Nashville where they spent hours enjoying the cars - why the fk wasn't there a feature on it rather than a few stock photos of cars they looked at? Why go to Nashville if you're not going to do anything relating to the location? Massive missed opportunity and I'd have loved to see what they clearly enjoyed so much.
Reminds me of the second Africa special where they were mocking Hammond for his 'tent in the dark' programme. I don't want to hear about something they enjoyed seeing, I want to see it too

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Well.. for me its now a comedy show with cars as background rather than a car show.

If the jokes were better I could live with that and simply see it as a comedy. However, a car made of of bricks, blowing up Clarkson's house,dumping cars into the ocean, a profoundly unfunny American who is as much of a caricature as the boys themselves, the celebrity brain dump, the differing locales for the show that are barely used, all tend to leave me with a feeling that it is a colossal expenditure that produces little of automotive interest.

I have no criticism whatsoever of those who really enjoy it . There are many TV shows that are wildly successful that leave me cold, or that I never even start to watch. This is just one of them.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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We have just had a relative over and watched the 2 Beach Buggy episodes together (7 and 8 I think). If you didnt know they were from TGT you could quite easily think they were old Top Gear ones.
The point is the chemistry is exactly as it was the humour is the same its contrived but funny the scenery is superb.
I think these work so very well as they are specials. I hope that the lads go on to make many more series

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Top Gear, season 12, episode 1. On Dave this evening, a very good reminder of how good TG was and how underwhelming Grand Tour is.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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techiedave said:
We have just had a relative over and watched the 2 Beach Buggy episodes together (7 and 8 I think). If you didnt know they were from TGT you could quite easily think they were old Top Gear ones.
The point is the chemistry is exactly as it was the humour is the same its contrived but funny the scenery is superb.
I think these work so very well as they are specials. I hope that the lads go on to make many more series
Not me, you obviously feel that way, but the mass majority (admittedly on this thread alone) certainly don't feel that way. Even the majority of level headed positive reviewers wish for something more...on each and every level of the programme, CHM are falling short of what has been done before...and falling short of what the pre-hype suggested was coming.

They are of course wanting a large audience, but in focusing on that one aim, the broadest possible church... you get committee based stuff.... the Toyota Corolla or Vauxhall Corsa of TV entertainment....they were, are and will hopefully prove to be better than this series one.

As for IMDB, I have no clue about conspiracies, Amazons ownership and their use of it, badly weighted scores due to die hard fans...
Marvel films in particular seem to get the same use, comic book fans jump on each installment and score high and it's not until later when the hype and hoo-har has died down that things settle and something more akin to reality is seen.
Following on from that, as can be seen on TGT's page, the score is nosediving.

And yes I've stopped watching it.
And from the comments made by others since I stopped, nothing has changed and my time has been better spent watching better quality TV...such as TG repeats on DAVE.

Nardiola

1,172 posts

219 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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MarshPhantom said:
Top Gear, season 12, episode 1. On Dave this evening, a very good reminder of how good TG was and how underwhelming Grand Tour is.
Also the Middle East episode on now. Scary to think where they modified their cars, Al-Raqqah, is now completely under ISIS countrol.

Winky151

1,267 posts

141 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Still watching/perservering TGT. I'm an episode behind & today watched the 'German' episode which I thought was the nearest so far to TG. The Beach Buggy episodes before that really could have been compacted into a single episode & other than they just could, saw no reason why it was stretched into two.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I do find it odd how several on here refer to 'the Lads'.

They are 50 plus millionaires taking the piss, yet the use of Lads makes it sound like one 'know' them. Strange
A bit like all the sad acts who call Chris Harris 'monkey'.

Literally part of me dies everytime someone says it.

Edited by RemyMartin81D on Sunday 15th January 22:07

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I do find it odd how several on here refer to 'the Lads'.

They are 50 plus millionaires taking the piss, yet the use of Lads makes it sound like one 'know' them. Strange
A very similar number to those who refer to Monkey Harris as though they know him. He can drive you know.

ClockworkCupcake

74,558 posts

272 months

Sunday 15th January 2017
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RemyMartin81D said:
A bit like all the sad acts who call Chris Harris 'monkey'.
In fairness, it is his nickname and has been for years; to extent that his Twitter name is @harrismonkey. But I get what you are saying.


Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Sunday 15th January 22:16

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