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marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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FiF said:
It sort of reminded me of a piece by Bill Bryson from one of his books. He was making a comparison between Britain and the USA, and I cba to go and look up the quote or even research if the 'fact' he was espousing is indeed correct, but essentially he stated that there were more surviving buildings built before a particular date in the bit of England where he lived, somewhere in North Yorkshire iirc, than in the whole of the USA.
Hardly shocking though, as the USA wasn't really populated by people building stone buildings until, what, the late 1600s?

Of course, they did have the advantge of not being bombed in either World War (in the main), but against that parts of the centre and West were only really populated by people building stone buldings in the 1800s...

There aren't MANY wooden buildings still standing in the UK.

Anyway, back on topic! smile

M

Dr Interceptor

7,780 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Wow, you come into this thread daily, you never know what you're going to get. Could be anti-TGT, anti-BBC, anti-Ginger, but today is an architecture debate laughlaughlaughlaugh

FiF

44,061 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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marcosgt said:
FiF said:
It sort of reminded me of a piece by Bill Bryson from one of his books. He was making a comparison between Britain and the USA, and I cba to go and look up the quote or even research if the 'fact' he was espousing is indeed correct, but essentially he stated that there were more surviving buildings built before a particular date in the bit of England where he lived, somewhere in North Yorkshire iirc, than in the whole of the USA.
Hardly shocking though, as the USA wasn't really populated by people building stone buildings until, what, the late 1600s?

Of course, they did have the advantge of not being bombed in either World War (in the main), but against that parts of the centre and West were only really populated by people building stone buldings in the 1800s...

There aren't MANY wooden buildings still standing in the UK.

Anyway, back on topic! smile

M
True, but my fault for taking Bryson's comments out of context as he was trying to make an alternative but tangentially related point at the time.

Agree with the comments by others about some of the horrors that are bring thrown up so Kevin McCloudface can wax lyrical, but each to their own.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Agree with posters above - knew that Clarkson's house was going to be done at some point, but clattering through a well built, old, not degrading dry stone wall with a bulldozer seemed a shame.

As they were wondering around the house before destroying it, it was nice to see - there was just a tatty back door that clearly saw more use than the front (oo-er) - just seemed to make Clarkson a bit more 'normal'. The house looked lived in, a little scruffy, but down to earth. Cosy, almost.

Edited by Tonsko on Tuesday 6th December 09:16

Ste1987

1,798 posts

106 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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El Guapo said:
I have found it disappointing so far. They had creative freedom & plenty of money and they are just doing Top Gear Light. It all feels half-arsed. I was hoping for some fresh ideas, something new & different to what they have already done over and over again.
I'll keep watching, frustrated by the knowledge that it could be so much better.
Trouble is a lot of viewers are happy with this same old-same old. I had to unfollow the Facebook page as I was getting fed up of all the Clarkson arse-licking going on. Then you've got those going to the Top Gear page telling them to give up the Stig and everything BBC have supposedly prevented Amazon from doing. Says it all really

Amateurish

7,737 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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essayer said:
I know he's clearing it for a new build, there's just something sad about the demolition of a 200-year old house (and wall), lots of history and seemingly in good structural condition; I'm sure it could have just been extended, upgraded etc, keeping a bit of history alive. I'm sentimental like that you see..

..although it was an impressive explosion.
I actually thought the house was quite ugly - lots of inappropriate modern additions and extensions. I lived in Chadlington for 5 years, and there are many nicer houses in the village, the nearby hamlets and in Charlbury.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Actually agree that it looked a bit ugly, despite my post 2 above.

Dr Interceptor

7,780 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I think the proposed new pad looks lovely...


ClockworkCupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I need to go back and look at it again, but did we actually see the house being blown up, or did we just see a big explosion?

I notice they carefully removed the roof tiles, presumably to be reused. I wonder if some of the Cotswold stone was reused too? We only saw light demolition with the wrecking cranes.

I think I'm most upset by the dry stone wall. But perhaps it was going to be demolished and re-sited anyway, and I doubt that many stones were rendered unusable.

ClockworkCupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Dr Interceptor said:
I think the proposed new pad looks lovely...

It certainly looks sympathetic to the surroundings. yes

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Looks quite Georgian actually. Which I guess will fit right in. Clarkson has got the moolah to use genuine materials too.

p1stonhead

25,540 posts

167 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ClockworkCupcake said:
I need to go back and look at it again, but did we actually see the house being blown up, or did we just see a big explosion?

I notice they carefully removed the roof tiles, presumably to be reused. I wonder if some of the Cotswold stone was reused too? We only saw light demolition with the wrecking cranes.

I think I'm most upset by the dry stone wall. But perhaps it was going to be demolished and re-sited anyway, and I doubt that many stones were rendered unusable.
I would imagine it's almost certain it was demolished properly and not blown up as shown on the show.

Amateurish

7,737 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Yep, looked like pyrotechnics to me.

fullbeem

2,044 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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It certainly didn't look like Clarkson original house in Chipping Norton.

Guess he lost that in the divorce. This farmhouse is in Chadlington.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,220 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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There were a couple of smaller explosions inside the house, but the main big fireball explosion was in the garden between the house and stone wall. They then demolished the house, and did another smaller explosion to make it look like the main explosion had levelled the house.
It wasn't CGI.

ClockworkCupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
There were a couple of smaller explosions inside the house, but the main big fireball explosion was in the garden between the house and stone wall. They then demolished the house, and did another smaller explosion to make it look like the main explosion had levelled the house.
It wasn't CGI.
Absolutely. CGI would have been far more expensive than what you have just described, which sounds eminently plausible to me.

Dr Interceptor

7,780 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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From the telegraph...

telegraph said:
The new country pad is set to be made of rubblestone laid in lime mortar with ashlar stone dressings.

It will be 12 times the size of the average UK new-build – but won't have the pool or tennis court of the original plan.

But it will have a basement cinema, an attic games room, a walled garden, orangery, room for five cars, a yard for horses, six bedrooms and five bathrooms.

The design and access statement submitted to the council said: "The current proposed house has been conceived as a modest country house/gentrified farmhouse which gives the appearance of having grown over time."

It added: "The architectural language that has been employed is a restrained classical/vernacular language.

"The only use of columns is on the south facing loggia which will be open to the elements.

"The simplest of the classical orders has been used, i.e. a baseless doric order which is the most restrained of the doric order type and which was used on classical farmhouses and smaller country houses in the 18th and early 19th centuries.

"The only other use of the classical orders is on the modest porch to the entrance on the east elevation.

"The rest of the house is astylar with overall facades being carefully proportioned, as well as the window and door openings."

GetCarter

29,377 posts

279 months

otolith

56,079 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Amateurish said:
Yep, looked like pyrotechnics to me.
There was a pyrotechnics company listed in the credits, who were presumably responsible for the big petrol explosion on the lawn.

ClockworkCupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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otolith said:
There was a pyrotechnics company listed in the credits, who were presumably responsible for the big petrol explosion on the lawn.
Indeed. Demolitions never involve huge fireballs.

Ironically, we've even seen real a real demolition on Top Gear when they put the indestructible Toyota Hilux on the top of a block of flats that was demolished by controlled explosion.

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