The Grand Tour

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Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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It was quite good this week.

The American is just a pain and the celebrity brain freeze offers little either. Hammond needs to wind it in a bit too. He's too annoying at times.

Not sure how they are going to get away with making a programme that was near identical to Top Gear.


31mph

1,308 posts

135 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I thought was excellent, very funny main feature, more like that please smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I think Clarkson's ego is taking over too much, it does feel like his show now. The bone car was too OTT, too macabre, and pretty like a bunch of people making a few jokes about stuff and someone then (Clarkson) making a joke involving a sexual offence no ones find funny.

the old TG was great because on the small nuances it bought to things, the v12 vantage drive in Scotland , the Thailand bit.

the old stuff did have it japes but it felt intelligent and intellectually based. This is starting to feel like pretty dumbed down to the lowest dominator and feels like some writers are missing from the mix.



Otispunkmeyer

12,592 posts

155 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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So...

how many vegans will write in to complain about JCs meat and cow hide car?

Janluke

2,582 posts

158 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Seems very straight forward to me

If you like TG you'll like GT
If you liked bits of TG you'll like bits of GT

If you felt TG was getting a little tired and needed a refresh and thought GT was an opportunity to do this you may be disappointed

Super Josh

99 posts

219 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Anyone else have 'lipsync' problems when watching TGT on a fire 4K on a normal HDTV? Every other Amazon program is fine.


Cheers,

Josh

ClockworkCupcake

74,543 posts

272 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Janluke said:
Seems very straight forward to me

If you like TG you'll like GT
If you liked bits of TG you'll like bits of GT

If you felt TG was getting a little tired and needed a refresh and thought GT was an opportunity to do this you may be disappointed
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Otispunkmeyer

12,592 posts

155 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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The Spruce goose said:
I think Clarkson's ego is taking over too much, it does feel like his show now. The bone car was too OTT, too macabre, and pretty like a bunch of people making a few jokes about stuff and someone then (Clarkson) making a joke involving a sexual offence no ones find funny.

the old TG was great because on the small nuances it bought to things, the v12 vantage drive in Scotland , the Thailand bit.

the old stuff did have it japes but it felt intelligent and intellectually based. This is starting to feel like pretty dumbed down to the lowest dominator and feels like some writers are missing from the mix.
I think you are looking for the term "self indulgent", episode two certainly was. Felt more like something shoe-horned in because it was some kind of fantasy they wanted to live out.

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

150 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Worse than episode 2.

ReaperCushions

6,014 posts

184 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Janluke said:
Seems very straight forward to me

If you like TG you'll like GT
If you liked bits of TG you'll like bits of GT

If you felt TG was getting a little tired and needed a refresh and thought GT was an opportunity to do this you may be disappointed
I think this pretty much sums it up!

Mezzanine

9,214 posts

219 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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P-Jay said:
p1stonhead said:
I too assumed California, South Africa etc would mean an epic drive across the country, the same with every other location for the tent.

I can't believe they wasted millions of pounds travelling the world just for it to be a studio which isn't much of the actual show.
I think an element of the nomadic way they do it is to appeal to the audiences of the countries they visit. For Amazon to consider their investment a sucess they need to sell Prime accounts to more than just UK buyers, but it is odd.
I think there is a suggestion that as the tent travels around and it not a 'permanent' studio, they are getting around one of the many legal restrictions placed on the format of the show put in place by the BBC. It can no longer be shown to be a studio based audience/car show presentation.


p1stonhead

25,543 posts

167 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Mezzanine said:
P-Jay said:
p1stonhead said:
I too assumed California, South Africa etc would mean an epic drive across the country, the same with every other location for the tent.

I can't believe they wasted millions of pounds travelling the world just for it to be a studio which isn't much of the actual show.
I think an element of the nomadic way they do it is to appeal to the audiences of the countries they visit. For Amazon to consider their investment a sucess they need to sell Prime accounts to more than just UK buyers, but it is odd.
I think there is a suggestion that as the tent travels around and it not a 'permanent' studio, they are getting around one of the many legal restrictions placed on the format of the show put in place by the BBC. It can no longer be shown to be a studio based audience/car show presentation.
I get that it may be the case, but surely they could have combined it with an awesome big film from each country they visit. They didnt do anything Californian or South African which was a huge wasted opportunity in my eyes. Its not like either of those places dont have a huge amount to explore and do on a car show!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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p1stonhead said:
I get that it may be the case, but surely they could have combined it with an awesome big film from each country they visit. They didnt do anything Californian or South African which was a huge wasted opportunity in my eyes. Its not like either of those places dont have a huge amount to explore and do on a car show!
They don't seem to have the imagination or willingness to do anything that isn't a copy of the old top gear. You can't blame them though, they're churning out tired old tosh and people are raving about it. Easy money for them.

Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

181 months

Mezzanine

9,214 posts

219 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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p1stonhead said:
Mezzanine said:
P-Jay said:
p1stonhead said:
I too assumed California, South Africa etc would mean an epic drive across the country, the same with every other location for the tent.

I can't believe they wasted millions of pounds travelling the world just for it to be a studio which isn't much of the actual show.
I think an element of the nomadic way they do it is to appeal to the audiences of the countries they visit. For Amazon to consider their investment a sucess they need to sell Prime accounts to more than just UK buyers, but it is odd.
I think there is a suggestion that as the tent travels around and it not a 'permanent' studio, they are getting around one of the many legal restrictions placed on the format of the show put in place by the BBC. It can no longer be shown to be a studio based audience/car show presentation.
I get that it may be the case, but surely they could have combined it with an awesome big film from each country they visit. They didnt do anything Californian or South African which was a huge wasted opportunity in my eyes. Its not like either of those places dont have a huge amount to explore and do on a car show!
No no, I completely agree with your point, surely being in such dramatic, cinematic areas would make for fantastic adventure films...just putting forth a reason why the tent travels...

GetCarter

29,379 posts

279 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Absolutely. Could be great if they just stopped acting, and just talked.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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I was expecting it would be good, after the first episode I was hoping it would improve. It didn't. It will probably get me hung drawn and quartered here but it looks like the quality of Top Gear was down to the BBC, not the team. The in tent stuff is shockingly bad.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

196 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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GetCarter said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Absolutely. Could be great if they just stopped acting, and just talked.
But then Richard Porter would be out of a job.

GetCarter

29,379 posts

279 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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mp3manager said:
GetCarter said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Absolutely. Could be great if they just stopped acting, and just talked.
But then Richard Porter would be out of a job.
I'm sure he could find a job writing scripts for others... maybe The Telegraph? wink

Prawo Jazdy

4,946 posts

214 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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sandman77 said:
NJK44 said:
Why does the drone keep crashing in the intro? Am I missing the joke? Aren't Amazon meant to be promoting drones what with them wanting to launch Postman drones?
In episode 1 when it happened they played out a joke where they had a mock argument about getting too focused on who shot what. The joke went over my head and I think they are referencing whatever it was on every episode now.
The "let's not argue" thing isn't a joke - it's a near quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. In the film, Sir Lancelot (played by John Cleese) blunders into a castle where a wedding is being held and kills a few of the guests, believing that a woman is being held prisoner there. It's actually a camp man. When the king of the castle (Michael Palin with a Yorkshire accent) discovers Lancelot is from Camelot, he sees a chance for commercial gain, and, in response to the guests' cries about what Launcelot has done, says "let's not argue over 'oo killed 'oo". I'm pretty sure the quote has popped up before on TG, and it is from Clarkson's era, so maybe it's a favourite of his. Or...

...Lancelot ruins a pleasant situation by committing an act of violence, but when someone else sees a chance to make money from an allegiance with him, this is swiftly forgotten. I'm guessing they couldn't be as brazen as to say "let's not argue over 'oo punched 'oo"...

(Given that 'man falling into water' is the comedic level of the rest of the episodes, I'm probably giving them too much credit here.)

Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Friday 9th December 19:12

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