The Grand Tour
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I am also a fan but agree with some of the Guardian article. To me it sometimes seems that they are trying too hard and I suspect series two, when they have worked out what did and didn't work, will be better. As for "killing" the celebrities - I find this mildly amusing as it is clearly an ongoing pop at the BBC lawyers who have presumably stopped them doing anything involving real celebrities. I haven't watched episode 4 yet as I am tending to watch these in the traditional Sunday evening slot and I have to say that, after a nice roast dinner and several glasses of wine, the show goes down just fine.
parksie said:
And dare I say it, GT is not as good as the Chris Evans Top Gear????
Well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_(series_23)
Here are my stand out parts from that series
675LT
R8
F12TDF
Focusrs/Civic/AMG45 hot hatch test
Block in London
Tesla X
Vulcan at Abu Dhabi
M2
Rolls Royce film (old v new)
Mustang
911R
NSX
Modernised classics (db5 etc)
Don't get me wrong. Evans was not a good fit for the show.
But the cinematography/content in these films were more than a match for anything I've seen with Grand Tour. As we've all pointed out. This is NOT a new show. It's just more of the same. Which bizarrely for the increased budget feels less quality than even Series 22 of BBC TG
Debaser said:
GetCarter said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Absolutely. Could be great if they just stopped acting, and just talked.Fortunately ep4 was way better than ep2.
NJK44 said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Disagree. Who gives a toss what those idiots at the Guardian think?
Let them have their little whinge....we'll just crack on and enjoy the programme.
Better?
I'm interested to hear the views here but it is spoiling the shows for me a little as I'm now being very picky myself over their poor attempts to follow a script. They may have been wooden on TG but I didn't notice and cared less.
Re episode 4, I find myself agreeing with many of the comments here. Really felt uncomfortable with the maggot infested car though but that's enough on Hammond in the TT.
Re the BBC and the criticism it gets from many places, many just don't understand that the BBC is public service broadcasting. The license is an outmoded method of paying for it and to pick on the 90% of the stuff that we individually feel is crap is just missing the point.
Re episode 4, I find myself agreeing with many of the comments here. Really felt uncomfortable with the maggot infested car though but that's enough on Hammond in the TT.
Re the BBC and the criticism it gets from many places, many just don't understand that the BBC is public service broadcasting. The license is an outmoded method of paying for it and to pick on the 90% of the stuff that we individually feel is crap is just missing the point.
Shoegrip said:
I'm interested to hear the views here but it is spoiling the shows for me a little as I'm now being very picky myself over their poor attempts to follow a script. They may have been wooden on TG but I didn't notice and cared less.
Re episode 4, I find myself agreeing with many of the comments here. Really felt uncomfortable with the maggot infested car though but that's enough on Hammond in the TT.
Re the BBC and the criticism it gets from many places, many just don't understand that the BBC is public service broadcasting. The license is an outmoded method of paying for it and to pick on the 90% of the stuff that we individually feel is crap is just missing the point.
Darn right the "license fee" is an outmoded vehicle. Being forced to pay it if you have the cheek to watch a live broadcast made by a competitor is absurd . Time the BBc were made to adopt a voluntary subscription model, might make them produce material that people at large want, not what they seem to think they want. Reason I let my license, lapse, I just did'nt watch BBC output. I only watch streamed services now. Re episode 4, I find myself agreeing with many of the comments here. Really felt uncomfortable with the maggot infested car though but that's enough on Hammond in the TT.
Re the BBC and the criticism it gets from many places, many just don't understand that the BBC is public service broadcasting. The license is an outmoded method of paying for it and to pick on the 90% of the stuff that we individually feel is crap is just missing the point.
As for TGT , I'm thoroughly enjoying it, not much interested in its specifics, but it holds my attention for that hour or so, and amuses me, so, it works for me, hopefully much more to follow.
NJK44 said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Disagree. Who gives a toss what those idiots at the Guardian think?
Let them have their little whinge....we'll just crack on and enjoy the programme.
http://somuchguardian.tumblr.com/
NJK44 said:
Quickmoose said:
Just watched ep 4.
I have to say I really enjoyed it....well 14 minutes of it.
The other 1hr 4 minutes were frankly embarassing.
Episode 4 is 62 minutes long, not 78. Were you watching the wrong show? I have to say I really enjoyed it....well 14 minutes of it.
The other 1hr 4 minutes were frankly embarassing.
Either way fast forwarding the tat meant I only wasted half an hour
Have been pretty underwhelmed so far but yesterday's episode was particularly meh...
I was surprised when it got the end, I thought to myself, is that it?? 10 minutes to review (in no depth whatsoever) the Porsche and BMW, and the rest of the show was just filled with crap. The challenge had some funny bits but overall didn't inspire me or teach me anything, not did I get to see some interesting scenery. And what was the point of the TT bit???
I'm worried things won't improve either as I suspect the whole season has already been filmed.
I was surprised when it got the end, I thought to myself, is that it?? 10 minutes to review (in no depth whatsoever) the Porsche and BMW, and the rest of the show was just filled with crap. The challenge had some funny bits but overall didn't inspire me or teach me anything, not did I get to see some interesting scenery. And what was the point of the TT bit???
I'm worried things won't improve either as I suspect the whole season has already been filmed.
Rich_W said:
parksie said:
And dare I say it, GT is not as good as the Chris Evans Top Gear????
Well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_(series_23)
Here are my stand out parts from that series
675LT
R8
F12TDF
Focusrs/Civic/AMG45 hot hatch test
Block in London
Tesla X
Vulcan at Abu Dhabi
M2
Rolls Royce film (old v new)
Mustang
911R
NSX
Modernised classics (db5 etc)
Don't get me wrong. Evans was not a good fit for the show.
But the cinematography/content in these films were more than a match for anything I've seen with Grand Tour. As we've all pointed out. This is NOT a new show. It's just more of the same. Which bizarrely for the increased budget feels less quality than even Series 22 of BBC TG
Joey Ramone said:
The point being, surely, that if people were to just 'stop watching' then it gets pulled at the first opportunity. Amazon aren't a charity. Paradoxically, people watching it, hating it and commenting on it are probably going to keep the GT afloat.
A few whingers on PH are not going to get this stopped. Its global, and it fills the gap the BBC have left wide open from TGs former global audience. 316Mining said:
Joey Ramone said:
The point being, surely, that if people were to just 'stop watching' then it gets pulled at the first opportunity. Amazon aren't a charity. Paradoxically, people watching it, hating it and commenting on it are probably going to keep the GT afloat.
A few whingers on PH are not going to get this stopped. Its global, and it fills the gap the BBC have left wide open from TGs former global audience. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff