The Grand Tour

[Quickmoose]

bodhi said:

When our 4K telly gets delivered on Thursday I expect I'll be able to tell you what they're like on the 3rd watch through as well

(awaits fanboy comments, as clearly that's the only reason anyone likes The Grand Tour)

Well I doubt it' the only reason...but a 3rd watch ?! wowsers. Fair play to you Bodhi.

[xjay1337]

Worst "I've got more money than sense and bought a 4k tv" post ever.

[MarshPhantom]

Trouble is there are certain things they can't do as it would be too much like Top Gear, and they don't want be sued by the BBC, who paid Clarkson very handsomely for the rights. 12 million IIRC. Why they couldn't/didn't buy the rights back is a mystery.

[bodhi]

Quickmoose said:

Well I doubt it' the only reason...but a 3rd watch ?! wowsers. Fair play to you Bodhi.

You should see how often I've watched the 10k Supercars episode of Top Gear

[r11co]

Having A Barth said:

Celebrity Brain Crash is awful, such a waste.

CBC is my 9-year-old daughter's favourite bit of the show. Not only does she find it funny (I don't, with the exception of the Kimi Raikonnen one which I fell off the sofa laughing at), but she 'gets' that they are deliberately not wasting 20 minutes of the program talking to someone the way that 'weird guy' in the other Top Gear did.

That's the beauty of CHM - they know how to appeal to a wide audience, unlike a certain 'weird guy' who thought he knew.

Edited by r11co on Monday 16th January 11:25

[djdest]

paulguitar said:

So, which is worse, ‘new’ Top Gear, or ‘The Grand Tour’?

What does everyone think?

TGT is generally good but has its issues, but its nothing in comparison to how bad new TG was.
I totally gave up on it half way through the series, I just didn't enjoy any of what I saw.
I would pick TGT out of those two every time.

[Quickmoose]

r11co said:

Having A Barth said:

Celebrity Brain Crash is awful, such a waste.

CBC is my 9-year-old daughter's favourite bit of the show. Not only does she find it funny (I don't, with the exception of the Kimi Raikonnen one which I fell off the sofa laughing at), but she 'gets' that they are deliberately not wasting 20 minutes of the program talking to someone the way that 'weird guy' in the other Top Gear did.

That's the beauty of CHM - they know how to appeal to a wide audience, unlike a certain 'weird guy' who thought he knew.

Well that sums it up all rather well

you fell off the chair laughing at a GT joke...

How well does your 9 year old daughter use the word st now? she'll be one of the more advanced children at school I guess being one of the first to shout it in the playground

"Daddy why are they throwing round those toys that mummy likes?"

Edited by Quickmoose on Monday 16th January 11:34

[anonymous-user]

djdest said:

paulguitar said:

So, which is worse, ‘new’ Top Gear, or ‘The Grand Tour’?

What does everyone think?

TGT is generally good but has its issues, but its nothing in comparison to how bad new TG was.
I totally gave up on it half way through the series, I just didn't enjoy any of what I saw.
I would pick TGT out of those two every time.

I gave up on the grand tour before half way through and new top gear a bit nearer the end. Both poor really but I'd put top gear slightly ahead just.

TGT 3/10
nTG 5/10

[anonymous-user]

The thread seems to have some rather obsessive types on it.

[r11co]

Quickmoose said:

"Daddy why are they throwing round those toys that mummy likes?"

I think that says more about you than anything (the inference being that you think a nine-year old would know what a sex-toy is, rather than just perceiving it as a rubber model of a 'man's bit').

The Kimi thing was hilarious IMO and I'm entitled to that, but if you want to turn this back into a slanging match about me again then I'm out.

Edited by r11co on Monday 16th January 11:44

[Quickmoose]

r11co said:

Quickmoose said:

"Daddy why are they throwing round those toys that mummy likes?"

I think that says more about you than anything (the inference being that you think a nine-year old would know what a sex-toy is, rather than just perceiving it as a rubber model of a 'man's bit').

oh dear... what inference?!

[bodhi]

Quickmoose said:

Well that sums it up all rather well

you fell off the chair laughing at a GT joke...

How well does your 9 year old daughter use the word st now? she'll be one of the more advanced children at school I guess being one of the first to shout it in the playground

"Daddy why are they throwing round those toys that mummy likes?"

Edited by Quickmoose on Monday 16th January 11:34

It does sum it up rather well. Amazingly enough, different people find different things amusing - I didn't find Bottom especially funny, however I can't recall using that as an excuse to dig the long legged horse out.

I'd also probably suggest that they don't use any words on the show that your average 9 year old doesn't know already - Christ by the time I was 9 I'd even figured out how to use those words properly!

[r11co]

Quickmoose said:

oh dear... what inference?!

Quickmoose said:

"those toys that mummy likes?"

But keep going if you want, you might even be able to get admin involved again.

bodhi said:

I'd also probably suggest that they don't use any words on the show that your average 9 year old doesn't know already - Christ by the time I was 9 I'd even figured out how to use those words properly!

Mine's even smart enough to know that she shouldn't be using them!

Edited by r11co on Monday 16th January 11:48

[Quickmoose]

r11co said:

Quickmoose said:

oh dear... what inference?!

Quickmoose said:

"those toys that mummy likes?"

But keep going if you want, you might even be able to get admin involved again.

"again"? I've never had admin involved in my posts before, so it'd be a first..
oh and btw you brought in the idea that a 9 year old would "know" what a sex toy was...
Quite an insight that you could fall off a chair laughing at tGT but have such a massive sense of humour failure here... indeed.

Glad your children are exposed to adult behaviour and language anyway, but the know how and where not to show it or use it.
tGT target demographic becomes clearer...

Edited by Quickmoose on Monday 16th January 11:55

[MarshPhantom]

popeyewhite said:

MarshPhantom said:

Top Gear - Car show

Grand Tour - Car crash

It's not terrible, just disappointing.

They didn't shut up about the massive budget they now had but there hasn't been much evidence of it in the new show, apart from the first episode really.

[r11co]

Quickmoose said:

btw you brought in the idea that a 9 year old would "know" what a sex toy was...

It was you, but you are either being deliberately contrary or you don't actually appreciate what you posted earlier.

I was innocently making the point that an element of TGT that someone has criticised in here does actually have an appeal to a different demographic, demonstrating that the makers of the show know how to broaden their appeal, and you tried to turn it into a 'think of the children' exercise.

Edited by r11co on Monday 16th January 12:35

[El Guapo]

nTG - I expected it to suffer in comparison to oTG but there wasn't all that much wrong with it; CE was the wrong man for the job, the rallycross track was a mistake and the guest segment too long, but I found LeBlanc, Harris & Reid likeable & watchable and thought the aftershow was a good idea. With a bit of fine tuning, time for the presenters to gel and the confidence to try some new ideas it could become a good programme in its own right.

tGT - I had high hopes for something fresh, perhaps with a little added maturity & style, given the advancing age of the presenters. I anticipated visits to interesting parts of the world, perhaps learning something about differing attitudes to cars & driving, maybe some historical & cultural background, all with a smattering of jolly automotive japes. In 10 episodes there have been maybe 3 watchable segments, the rest has been relentlessly unfunny & tedious.
We have seen that CH&M are all individually capable of making good TV, in this case it feels like they simply couldn't be bothered to try.

[Hosenbugler]

MarshPhantom said:

Trouble is there are certain things they can't do as it would be too much like Top Gear, and they don't want be sued by the BBC, who paid Clarkson very handsomely for the rights. 12 million IIRC. Why they couldn't/didn't buy the rights back is a mystery.

I would not be at all surprised if they did not do such,in offering to buy the rights back . BBC then refusing, thinking they could reboot TG with Evans. As we all know, a catostrophic failure. Seems to have gone very quiet about NTG, but its not impossible if its another Evans type disaster, that messers CHMW, will be able to buy the brand/rights etc off the Beeb for a lot less than they sold it for.

Self and family all really like TGT , so its incidental really, but I cannot be alone in wondering to what extent over content CHMW are restricted owing to the Beeb's lawyer's.

[S10GTA]

Why does one have to be worse/better than the other. They are both enjoyable car based shows to watch.

I enjoy both equally. If I didn't, I'd not watch it.

Edited by S10GTA on Monday 16th January 12:38

[anonymous-user]

Quickmoose said:

r11co said:

Quickmoose said:

oh dear... what inference?!

Quickmoose said:

"those toys that mummy likes?"

But keep going if you want, you might even be able to get admin involved again.

"again"? I've never had admin involved in my posts before, so it'd be a first..
oh and btw you brought in the idea that a 9 year old would "know" what a sex toy was...
Quite an insight that you could fall off a chair laughing at tGT but have such a massive sense of humour failure here... indeed.

Glad your children are exposed to adult behaviour and language anyway, but the know how and where not to show it or use it.
tGT target demographic becomes clearer...

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 16th January 11:55

Seriously you need to lighten up. You come across as self obsessed of the really high type. Your view isn't the only view, FFS I bet your really pleasant in real life just that the net brings out your dark side.