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The ending was s
t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
Dr Interceptor said:
The ending was st... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
Do you think his Maserati would have made Calais? t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
Must admit I was a little disappointed by the ending, just becuase I thought May was taking his time as he'd found a ferry to Jersey/Guernsey etc. didn;t really spoil my enjoyment of what I thought was a very good episode though.
I've also started watching the series again in 4K HDR (it's the only HDR source material I have), and it does look absolutely stunning in full resolution - the colours especially, are eye popping. I can see why Amazon insisted on it, even if it really doesn't do Clarkson any favours.
Dr Interceptor said:
The ending was st... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
This ending t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
Dr Interceptor said:
The ending was st... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
You and I had exactly the same ideas, really thought May would win involving some sort of plane - the question is why two people not in the TV / creative world can think of it, yet the creative genius of CMHW come up with that pile of poo, the May ending was just facile.t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
E65Ross said:
Well, on the whole I enjoyed that episode. I can see why people don't like it, but each to their own. There are bits I do not like though....the American, Celebrity Brain Crash, and some of the in-tent chatting can be irritating....but I enjoyed the Abarth review, the Maserati challenge was enjoyable (to me, at least).
Some don't like it, some do like it. I'm just glad there's a show on at all
I do feel sorry for those who don't like it. I think TGT is pretty similar to the end of the last lot of top gear, and it would appear that MOST of those who don't like TGT were expecting something drastically different.
If I were to change it, I'd get rid of the American, Celebrity Brain crash, I'd reduce the overall time spent "in the tent" and see if they could do more challenges akin to the Maserati one. I'd love them to do more "build" challenges like they used to, such as the amphibious car challenges, or their epic races etc.
100% agreeSome don't like it, some do like it. I'm just glad there's a show on at all
I do feel sorry for those who don't like it. I think TGT is pretty similar to the end of the last lot of top gear, and it would appear that MOST of those who don't like TGT were expecting something drastically different.
If I were to change it, I'd get rid of the American, Celebrity Brain crash, I'd reduce the overall time spent "in the tent" and see if they could do more challenges akin to the Maserati one. I'd love them to do more "build" challenges like they used to, such as the amphibious car challenges, or their epic races etc.
Adam B said:
Dr Interceptor said:
The ending was st... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
You and I had exactly the same ideas, really thought May would win involving some sort of plane - the question is why two people not in the TV / creative world can think of it, yet the creative genius of CMHW come up with that pile of poo, the May ending was just facile.t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
Dr Interceptor said:
I agree (clearly).
In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
How does one give a Chablis a hairstyle?In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
Adam B said:
You and I had exactly the same ideas, really thought May would win involving some sort of plane - the question is why two people not in the TV / creative world can think of it, yet the creative genius of CMHW come up with that pile of poo, the May ending was just facile.
Me three. Right up until just before the 'yacht' appeared on screen I visualised May had headed north and was taking the short crossing.BTW I have photos of my daughter playing on the same beach they were doing their sand rooster-tails on. I know the area like the back of my hand - Honfleur is half-an-hour's drive tops from Deauville and barely north east of it and neither is in what you would call 'northern France', but they gave the impression they had been heading north for hours to get from one to the other.
Edited by r11co on Tuesday 24th January 11:45
Dr Interceptor said:
Adam B said:
Dr Interceptor said:
The ending was st... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry.
Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
You and I had exactly the same ideas, really thought May would win involving some sort of plane - the question is why two people not in the TV / creative world can think of it, yet the creative genius of CMHW come up with that pile of poo, the May ending was just facile.t... If I was script writing, Hammond would have gone to Le Harve to get the ferry. Clarkson being smart would have realised the Le Harve to Portsmouth Ferry takes 8 hours, and Calais is just 3 hours drive up the road. He'd be on the Eurostar thinking the win was in the bag.
May meanwhile would drive to a local airfield suited and booted, sip fine wine, load his Maserati into an RAF Airbus A400M, and touch down not very long after at an airbase back home, and be the winner. Cue fanfare, brass band, the whole shebang.
In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
I also imagined that one of the cars would head for the Channel Islands.
They need a producer who's not a school chum and will tell them when their egos are getting carried away or when they just aren't funny. As it is, Willman (sp?) is clearly part of the clique and is too matey with them.
Get a new producer in there who they respect and the show is still saveable.
Get a new producer in there who they respect and the show is still saveable.
Edited by Marty Funkhouser on Monday 23 January 18:14
Dr Interceptor said:
I agree (clearly).
In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
In my mind I can picture exactly how it would go... Hammond would just be boarding the ferry at Le Harve when his mobile rings.
"Hammond? It's Clarkson. Are you on the ferry?"
Clarkson would point out the error of his ways, and that he was en route to Calais to catch the 10.30am train, and he would win. Hammond is then out of the running.
Clarkson would break down several times en route to Calais, minimising his advantage but would make it there, just.
At some point you'd cut to a brown brogue emerging past the sill of a Maserati, pan out to reveal it's parked up behind the A400M. May would sit at a table with red chequered tablecloth eating pate and coiffing Chablis while the car was loaded, he would then board the A400M, strap in and go.
Touch down not long after at an airbase, compose a text message to Hammond & Clarkson, send location, back door of the A400M opens and the Maser is driven off to a band and fanfare.
Maybe I think about these things too much.
Given their passion and use of the armed forces in the past, it also wouldn't have been a stretch to load it into a Hercules or similar and have it parachuted out, slung under a helicopter and carried across the channel, loaded onto a raft and towed across, or just something equally daft and entertaining. The cause of the misfiring would have also been shown as being sabotage by Hammond and May, shot with a nightvision camera, naturally. Yes it has all been done before and we know it would be (mostly) scripted, but it would still be amusing!
The ending just felt totally unfinished and very much an afterthought, both the driving round the container crap, to the trying to land on the boat, neither of which were funny. zzzz
Just compare it to pretty much any of the the regular races or challenges of old - again, I am now convinced this is in part due to heavy legal restrictions on what they cannot do - but that absolutely doesn't excuse the complete lack of, well, pretty much anything interesting in the 'epic journey' once again.
It is not going to ruin my life - it is only a TV show after all - but it is just mildly irritating with them having free reign and budget to something amazing and entertaining, and in reality it has turned out to be a bit of a boring pup.
Whatever IS missing, is really the lifeblood of the show, and not having it present any more is killing it.
Edited by GCH on Monday 23 January 22:48
The old challenges/races seemed to really involve some sort of race or challenge. All that one way narrow street ste and the end part wasn't funny. Yes some parts were funny, but most of it is just dicking around now.
I would have loved to know more about the Maseratis. Opportunity missed.
te and the end part wasn't funny. Yes some parts were funny, but most of it is just dicking around now.I would have loved to know more about the Maseratis. Opportunity missed.
Edited by Emeye on Monday 30th January 11:30
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