Films of 2016 - A Bad Year?

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MiniMan64

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16,926 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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I'm talking the "big stuff", I'm sure there's plenty of smaller less well known films I've missed that were good but I feel like it's been a really sure year for the big blockbusters, am I wrong? I've been catching up on some stuff i missed recently.

Civil War was good if a little paint by Marvel numbers.
Liked Deadpool a lot.
Was pleasantly suprised by Star Trek Beyond.

Everything else was tosh!

BvS was a mess
ID:Resurgence was like a bad B-movie remake
Suicide Squad was a good movie chopped to pieces in the edit
Seen bits of Ghostbusters, none of them good
Started X-Men Apocalypse and gave up after 1/2 hour
Bourne was a boring rehashed cash in.

What else did I miss?

And will 2017 be any better?

Catatafish

1,361 posts

145 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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A lot of the mainstream stuff relies totally on the pull of the Brand. If it says starwars, people will queue up to pay. The story is irrelevant.

Utter gash can turn a profit with the right marketing before word of mouth makes an impact.

Its a shame as tech means you can create any story imaginable, yet they mostly follow very conservative structure, no risks and seemingly no testing of the story before production starts.

Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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I care little for blockbuster type movies and have little interest in Star Trek or most of the comic book franchises, but Rogue One was good.

Was a fairly good year for smaller indie films

generationx

6,742 posts

105 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Arrival was good
Deadpool was great
Star Trek and Wars were both passable
I quite enjoyed Alice Through The Looking Glass, but I believe I was in the minority, I was the only one in the room!
Was The Martian this year? I liked it.
10 Cloverfield Lane was nice and claustrophobic.

Batman/Superman was ok
Ghostbusters was terrible
Suicide Squad was bilge
Captain America - Civil War just seemed to go on forever
Sausage Party was puerile nonsense

Personal opinions of course...

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Isn't Cinema dying and all the talent going to TV?

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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It was Disney's year at the global cinema box office. It totally cleaned up, with Captain America, Rogue One and others:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/20/walt-...


Interesting to see the top-10 films are almost all from comic books, sci-fi and children's stories. The only people still going to the cinema are kids, nerds and simpletons.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Yes, really bad. Deadpool was great but probably the only film I saw that I would give more than a 7/10. I haven't seen Rogue One or Doctor Strange yet though.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Top for me:
Rogue One and Doctor Strange were very good.
ETA - Kubo and the Two Strings also excellent.

In the middle:
Deadpool was okay. Not as funny as it thought it was.
Grimsby was hit and miss but there were some laugh out loud bits.

And then:
Bats vs. Supes was rubbish.
Everybody Wants Some!! was fking awful.


Edited by grumbledoak on Saturday 31st December 18:41

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Looking back:

The Revenant
Kubo and the Two Strings
Hell or High Water
Moana
Hunt for the Wilderpeople
Arrival (my film of the year).

Civil War, Deadpool and Rogue One all reviewed strongly and I enjoyed all three immensely. Catatafish's comment above about risks is an interesting one in a year where Arrival did extremely well, Deadpool outperformed loads of stuff (very rare for an R rated film), and Star Wars saw Disney grow a pair and do, er, what it did. Hardly traditional mainstream blockbuster stuff.

No different to any other year I'd say, some high profile disappointments (Batman vs Superman, Suicide Squad, Ghostbusters, Independence Day), but in a year where something like Arrival can succeed at the box office I'd take it as a good year overall.

As always it's not difficult to avoid the garbage, find a reviewer on your wavelength and you should be ok. There was no reason anyone should have gone to see Independence Day, for example.

Edited by ukaskew on Sunday 1st January 06:12

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Star Trek Beyond was great, loved it. Deadpool was okay, a bit too violent for my tastes and I didn't really get the humour. Sadly I bought too much into the hype and it was a bit of a let down. I found Suicide Sqaud highly enjoyable, even if it was a bit of a mess. I saw Iron Man 5 Captain America Civil War and thought it was good, but ultimately forgettable.

Edited by sparks_E39 on Sunday 1st January 10:13

Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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grumbledoak said:
Everybody Wants Some!! was fking awful.
one of my highlights - different strokes....

MiniMan64

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16,926 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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The only one I've missed so far that seems to be well received is Arrival.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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MiniMan64 said:
The only one I've missed so far that seems to be well received is Arrival.
Me too - i'll catch it when it comes out on blu-ray.

Skipped a few at the cinema - and so glad I did. Haven't seen any howlers at the cinema this year - which is nice considering how expensive it is.

durbster

10,266 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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As long as people are buying tickets, I don't think the studios are that interested in how good their films are. I mean, they're making another Transformers film.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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I liked
Civil War
Deadpool
Rogue One

Can't think of any stand out films.

durbster said:
As long as people are buying tickets, I don't think the studios are that interested in how good their films are. I mean, they're making another Transformers film.
Bloody CHinese!

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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durbster said:
As long as people are buying tickets, I don't think the studios are that interested in how good their films are. I mean, they're making another Transformers film.
Not sure that's the case at all generally, look at say Deadpool v Batman vs Superman. One had a mega budget and mega marketing spend, the other was made with money found down the back of a (rich mans) sofa and had a limited audience by default Yet when it all came out in the wash Deadpool was pretty much there or thereabouts in terms of box office. Poor / badly reviewed films generally drop like a stone after week 1, if a studio wants a film to have legs it's got to be solid.

Rogue One is another example, we will likely never know the story behind the reshoots etc, but the vast (late) changes apparent don't suggest to me that Disney are a studio happy to just put the franchise out there to make money on name alone, they know for their investment to pay off that they have to keep standards high. In fact Disney generally are smashing it out of the park with well received movies and they've made more money in a year than any studio in history. That doesn't happen if they drop the ball with Marvel, or Star Wars, or Pixar, or their core animation studio (Moana was excellent).

Transformers...fair enough.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Disney certainly seem to be very competent at the moment, unlike SOny. biggrin

castex

4,936 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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10 Cloverfield Drive is execrable. It even has John Goodman and it still manages to be free-of-ideas manipulative cack. Just a heads up.
On the other hand, we saw The Nice Guys recently. That was excellent fun.

Poisson96

2,098 posts

131 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Deadpool, Fantastic Beasts AWTFT, Sausage Party and Finding Dory are all in my top 10 this year, with the others being smaller films or classics (Anthropoid, Bridge Of Spies, The Godfather, Big Short, Ferris Bueller and Spotlight)

But Ghostbusters, BvS DoJ, Ouija etc were bilge

V8covin

7,312 posts

193 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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All these recommendations for Arrival,we managed 30 minutes last night and were bored to tears so watched Ghostbusters instead.
Does it get better ?