Dambusters film

[jmorgan]

US distribution did try to get an extra crash in, it was a B17, think the US release eventually had that bit pulled.

[Eric Mc]

I know some Lincolns sneaked into the background in the original film. Is there even a Canberra lurking in one shot?

[FourWheelDrift]

Dr Jekyll said:

ash73 said:

If they filmed the raid using B17s I would agree, but nobody cares what the code word was and it's offensive, so of course they should change it.

OT But there was a B17 in at least one cut of the original film.

Says they used stock footage of a B-17 crashing into a hill and exploding, I wonder if it is this BQ-17 drone footage - https://youtu.be/YmS_yyOIbqs?t=119

[Dr Jekyll]

Eric Mc said:

I know some Lincolns sneaked into the background in the original film. Is there even a Canberra lurking in one shot?

Yes. It's in an airfield scene when a pilot is getting into a car immediately before or after one of the test drops.

[yellowjack]

IMDb stuff... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046889/goofs

...including -

IMDb Dambusters goofs page said:

American versions had "Trigger" dubbed for "" (the name of Gibson's dog, and one of the code words). The Morse code received in the Ops room was still "" though.

I haven't watched this film in such a long time now, that all this chitchat about it is making me wish I could find my DVD copy of it.

[Russian Troll Bot]

ash73 said:

FourWheelDrift said:

I wonder if it is this BQ-17 drone footage - https://youtu.be/YmS_yyOIbqs?t=119

What a waste

Not as if they were short of them at the time though

[Ayahuasca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kx2Vpvxk4

Testing the bouncing bomb. Looks like one of them bounced along land, not water.

[jmorgan]

Ayahuasca said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kx2Vpvxk4

Testing the bouncing bomb. Looks like one of them bounced along land, not water.

Think there was a test after the war by the US and it took the tail off an aircraft, it was fatal.

Edit. Found it, 1945 and it was fatal. Not posting the youtube link but its out there.

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 5th March 17:57

[Dr Jekyll]

Ayahuasca said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kx2Vpvxk4

Testing the bouncing bomb. Looks like one of them bounced along land, not water.

Anyone know how an operational version was supposed to explode when it hit the target but not before?

[AMG Merc]

Dr Jekyll said:

Anyone know how an operational version was supposed to explode when it hit the target but not before?

Others more expert than me will be along but wasn't it that once it reached the dam wall is sunk and had a depth guage set to go off at a certain level?

[jmorgan]

Highball or upkeep? Upkeep (the dam bomb) was a hydrostatic fuse (depth charge fuse I assume?)

Highball was for ships so can they be that accurate? Tirpitz 15 meter from keel to top of the deck?

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technicallayout/gener...

[Dr Jekyll]

AMG Merc said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Anyone know how an operational version was supposed to explode when it hit the target but not before?

Others more expert than me will be along but wasn't it that once it reached the dam wall is sunk and had a depth guage set to go off at a certain level?

I was thinking of the ones that bounced along the ground, my first thought was that they were intended to be used on water but that would make the test a bit pointless.

[Vipers]

Dr Jekyll said:

AMG Merc said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Anyone know how an operational version was supposed to explode when it hit the target but not before?

Others more expert than me will be along but wasn't it that once it reached the dam wall is sunk and had a depth guage set to go off at a certain level?

I was thinking of the ones that bounced along the ground, my first thought was that they were intended to be used on water but that would make the test a bit pointless.

I am guessing a hydrostatic switch. As it sunk, water pressure increases, when reaches a predetermined setting, kaboooooooom.

Like AMG says.

Someone will know for sure soon.

P.S, update, from Wikipedia.

The bomb is dropped close to the surface of the lake. Because it is moving almost horizontally, at high velocity and with backspin, it bounces several times instead of sinking. Each bounce is smaller than the previous one.

The "bomb run" is calculated so that at its final bounce, the bomb will reach close to the target, where it sinks. A hydrostatic pistol causes it to explode at the right depth, creating destructive shockwaves.

Edited by Vipers on Monday 5th March 19:11

[bad company]

Has anybody mentioned the dog that was part of the story?

[EarlOfHazard]

Regarding the name of the dog, they could just do like Family Guy does:

https://youtu.be/7sN09bYZj3Y

[Halb]

bad company said:

Has anybody mentioned the dog that was part of the story?

Not sure, but I think it was called Trigger, that's what history says anyway...but it's not really important.

Edited by Halb on Monday 5th March 20:05

[Russian Troll Bot]

Or we could just introduce a token black character and give him all the problematic lines

[Ayahuasca]

jmorgan said:

Ayahuasca said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kx2Vpvxk4

Testing the bouncing bomb. Looks like one of them bounced along land, not water.

Think there was a test after the war by the US and it took the tail off an aircraft, it was fatal.

Edit. Found it, 1945 and it was fatal. Not posting the youtube link but its out there.

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 5th March 17:57

Is that the one with the '633 Sqd' theme?

[Starfighter]

My concern with the new film is not the dog’s name but the possible Americanisation as Hollywood is want to do. US pilots on secondment, US engineering support etc.

[davepoth]

Starfighter said:

My concern with the new film is not the dog’s name but the possible Americanisation as Hollywood is want to do. US pilots on secondment, US engineering support etc.

I'm sure it'll be very realistic right down to using the period correct model of B-17 to drop the bombs.