Hacksaw Ridge

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Halmyre

11,216 posts

140 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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digimeistter said:
Halmyre said:
Borroxs said:
Some Gump said:
Pfft. If it doesn't include the ayotolah of rock and rolla, a matchup and the swede it will only every be a vague imitation of the original.
Eh?
No habla?

Edited by Halmyre on Friday 27th January 12:46
Heartbreak Ridge
More like Brokeback Ridge. Clint mincing round all those muscular young men in tiny shorts...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 11th February 2017
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it has very strong religious and an American circle jerk , story is sloppy but interesting at parts brutal, but does feel a bit like pieces of separate films stitched together. Not a masterpiece but worth a work.

stuarthat

1,050 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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I found it interesting ,and enjoyed it so 7 and half out of 10

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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CountZero23 said:
Utterly terrible. Surprised it has managed such good reviews.

Skit's between romcom / Forrest gump vibe and some of the most ultra violent war scenes I've ever seen.

Just feels clumsy and ham-fisted to me.
Me too.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
it has very strong religious and an American circle jerk
Not 100% sure what that means, but the religious element is pretty hard to avoid in this story as it's his reason for refusing to fight and really was a big part of the man's motivation.

Without that his behaviour would be plain weird... (You can argue it is, but at least it's explicable).

M.

Paul Dishman

4,714 posts

238 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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I kept wondering why the Japanese just didn't sneak out from their tunnels at night and cut the rope net down and why they weren't at the cliff edge firing at the US soldiers as they climbed up.

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

143 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Watched it last night. I actually enjoyed it. Fighting Scenes were very well done. The fact that it is based on a true story makes it much more interesting!

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Paul Dishman said:
I kept wondering why the Japanese just didn't sneak out from their tunnels at night and cut the rope net down and why they weren't at the cliff edge firing at the US soldiers as they climbed up.
Because artillery? I mean, yeah, sure that'd be easier, but then if you knew they were waiting just at the top you'd just shell the fk out of them. From the Japanese point of view I guess it's better for them to have the US soldiers climb up and have to cross that no man's land giving you the opportunity to just pick them off as they take their chances?

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,009 posts

103 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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I wasn't very impressed myself. I thought the romance was a bit lame, and the Dad character grated a bit. I also wondered why the Japanese just cut the nets down.

Now I know that's it's a true story and so on, but I couldn't help but think he would have been even more useful if he was able to fight at times.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I wasn't very impressed myself. I thought the romance was a bit lame, and the Dad character grated a bit. I also wondered why the Japanese just cut the nets down.

Now I know that's it's a true story and so on, but I couldn't help but think he would have been even more useful if he was able to fight at times.
smile

I guess you weren't alone (as the film shows), but he probably would have just died without saving 50-100 men, which in fact would have been pretty useless by comparison...

My wife said "I can't believe they really just climbed nets to get up the cliff", but then you look and sure enough, the photos show EXACTLY that!

People picking holes (aside from the romance vs action balance, which is a matter of taste and may be a bit schmaltzy) are usually finding holes in the facts, even though some of it was pretty hard to believe!

I deliberately didn't read about him before seeing the film, but did afterwards and lots of stuff that seemed to me to probably be 'artistic interpretation' was pretty spot on!

It's one of those films where you think "That's a bit far fetched", but then you find it's what happened! As fiction it seems incredible and yet it's what happened.

M.


Edited by marcosgt on Monday 13th February 16:01

Dakkon

7,826 posts

254 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Seen it and I thought it was good, I think films that show how violent war really is, how likely you are going to die are very laudable and not some romantic drivel that everyone is going to be a hero.

War is brutal and this films like the opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan really show that.

What the guy achieved was quite frankly remarkable.

LittleBigPlanet

1,125 posts

142 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Saw it the other day, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Not too sure if/why Desmond was portrayed as being a bit Forrest Gump-esque?

lemmingjames

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7,462 posts

205 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Got bricked as a kid

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,246 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Brilliant film - full 10/10 from me.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Just got back, Odeon in their wisdom have reduced this to one showing per week, predictably it was sold out whilst 5 half empty screens showed 50 Shades!

Loved it, incredibly visceral and the first half was nowhere near as cheesy as I had heard. One thing I wasn't clear on, the letter at the trial. How did it clear him and if it was signed by that top guy sat there in the trial, why didn't he speak up earlier?

Markbarry1977

4,077 posts

104 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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ukaskew said:
Just got back, Odeon in their wisdom have reduced this to one showing per week, predictably it was sold out whilst 5 half empty screens showed 50 Shades!

Loved it, incredibly visceral and the first half was nowhere near as cheesy as I had heard. One thing I wasn't clear on, the letter at the trial. How did it clear him and if it was signed by that top guy sat there in the trial, why didn't he speak up earlier?
I believe the letter was from a top general in Washington, who had been his fathers captain in WW1 and subsequently promoted to general or brigadier during the WW1/2 period. I..E bloody high ranking and who's word you only disobey if you want to see your career ending pretty quick.

Edited by Markbarry1977 on Friday 17th February 02:55

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Just read the real story, amazing to think his real actions are actually downplayed in the film to make it more believable (and he himself downplayed what he achieved). He was even one of 3 volunteers who actually put that net up on the ridge!

LittleBigPlanet

1,125 posts

142 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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I often tend to watch films like this and then read the books (I've done this with Band of Brothers, Black Hawk Down, Lone Survivor and others).

Has anybody read a decent book about Hacksaw? There are a few on Amazon that might be worth a read but I trust PH's taste.

LittleBigPlanet

1,125 posts

142 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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lemmingjames said:
Got bricked as a kid
Nope, he (Desmond) bricked his brother, Hal.

silobass

1,180 posts

103 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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LittleBigPlanet said:
Nope, he (Desmond) bricked his brother, Hal.
Oh, I assumed he was the one that was hit!

Thought it was brilliant, really good stuff.

Did they say what happened to his brother?