BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread
Discussion
Tuvra said:
bodhi said:
Completely and very strongly disagree. Whilst GT wasn't quite as good as TG in its prime, current TG is but a tribute act. Occasional moments of being half decent, but most of it is just tedious arse. Every time it threatens to get half decent (the Alfa review), they ruin it completely with half arsed attempts to be wacky (the Styrofoam bit). MLB sounds bored through most of it, Rory sounds like an excited schoolboy who's won a chance to be on Top Gear, and CH is great until he's asked to interact with any of the other presenters - then it all goes horribly wrong.
I'll keep watching as I want 2 entertaining car shows to watch, but as it is, there's only one. And I'm not paying a license fee to watch it.
I agree with this, I keep watching it later & later into the week which speaks volumes.I'll keep watching as I want 2 entertaining car shows to watch, but as it is, there's only one. And I'm not paying a license fee to watch it.
I'd keep Harris from interacting with anyone to be honest. He's fine on his own, as soon as he talks to someone else his acting skills breaks the whole illusion that it's fake/scripted nonsense.
That Pac man game they did was rubbish, as was the "race" in the Chirion....
I like Harris reviewing/driving cars, but he's wooden and uncomfortable in the studio, MLB is nice bloke but seems to only be able to read from an unfunny script, Rory doesn't add anything for me. Conversely, Clarkson is a shouty moron but has moments of genuine insight, Hammond is a shouty moron but is sometimes funny, May is great and sharp witted - him falling over in mud was funny too.
I'll continue to watch both and enjoy some puerile car related stuff on TV.
I have been enjoying TG.
For the first time in years I started to actually like Clarkson again during the final two TGTs but..
...***IMO*** revised TG makes me realise how over Clarkson May Hammond I am.
Even the now infamous shipping containers (which is obvious filler) reminded me of the Manchester airport M5 touring video - it looked really nice and was visually different.
I like Harris and always have. I hope they don't over do the pantomime baddie thing.
I also quite like the Joeys Machines bits. At least it's different.
TGT was full of arrogance. Perhaps because TGv3.0 flopped they now are being more humble and that is appealing to me..
Either way I definitely prefer TG now.
All the DIY shows on YouTube appeal more but that's a whole diffferent discussion..!
For the first time in years I started to actually like Clarkson again during the final two TGTs but..
...***IMO*** revised TG makes me realise how over Clarkson May Hammond I am.
Even the now infamous shipping containers (which is obvious filler) reminded me of the Manchester airport M5 touring video - it looked really nice and was visually different.
I like Harris and always have. I hope they don't over do the pantomime baddie thing.
I also quite like the Joeys Machines bits. At least it's different.
TGT was full of arrogance. Perhaps because TGv3.0 flopped they now are being more humble and that is appealing to me..
Either way I definitely prefer TG now.
All the DIY shows on YouTube appeal more but that's a whole diffferent discussion..!
Have to say I really liked the Oman race. OK so it was nothing new but it was a great chance to see the sort of vehicles open to you if money is no object. But what did it was seeing MLB on the Ducati. He rode that with ease obviously knew what he was doing. I enjoy watching bikers at ease with their machines. And a bike in Top Gear!!
Some of the sections do go on too long, and the ones that do tend to be the silly pointless ones... Alfa Romeo through the wall was too long, Golf GTi Clubsport at the ring was too long, Twingo Pac Man was too long. They could cut some of the sections down, and do something else or maybe put a few Extra Gear bits into the main show instead of iPlayer (Haven't watched this weeks EG yet).
Loving it, it isnt "too PC", Harris is good, quite like Joey from friends and Rory Reid is growing on me, it is less bigheaded and tttish than TG got, Chris Evans didnt work but this is doing, and we get two big budget car programmes, remebmer, TG used to be 30 mins about seatbelts and Tony Mason on about Tractors in living memory, so Chirons in Dubai, I will take that.
Pac Man thing was crap.
Pac Man thing was crap.
bexVN said:
Have to say I really liked the Oman race. OK so it was nothing new but it was a great chance to see the sort of vehicles open to you if money is no object. But what did it was seeing MLB on the Ducati. He rode that with ease obviously knew what he was doing. I enjoy watching bikers at ease with their machines. And a bike in Top Gear!!
I just think it could have been so much better. You knew there was going to be a helicopter/plane in there somewhere so the boat was totally pointless. It could have for example been, reach point A using land, sea and air and then it would have worked, as it was, it just felt incredibly rigid and scripted.For example he could have got straight on the Boat, taken the boat to an offshore helipad (super yacht?), helicopter to the bike and made it feel neck and neck all the way rather, as it was I was a bit bored to be honest
Tuvra said:
bexVN said:
Have to say I really liked the Oman race. OK so it was nothing new but it was a great chance to see the sort of vehicles open to you if money is no object. But what did it was seeing MLB on the Ducati. He rode that with ease obviously knew what he was doing. I enjoy watching bikers at ease with their machines. And a bike in Top Gear!!
I just think it could have been so much better. You knew there was going to be a helicopter/plane in there somewhere so the boat was totally pointless. It could have for example been, reach point A using land, sea and air and then it would have worked, as it was, it just felt incredibly rigid and scripted.For example he could have got straight on the Boat, taken the boat to an offshore helipad (super yacht?), helicopter to the bike and made it feel neck and neck all the way rather, as it was I was a bit bored to be honest
It's the silly contrived bits that I can't stand, such as counting the value of cars overtaken at the ring. It's all a bit desperate. Add in a few whoops and high fives and it makes matters worse. Why are they trying to give Chris Harris this weird persona too? It's a shame as without all that nonsense it's a pretty good show in parts.
I can't say I'm looking forward to the return of Eddie Jordan next week either.
I can't say I'm looking forward to the return of Eddie Jordan next week either.
e21Mark said:
It's the silly contrived bits that I can't stand, such as counting the value of cars overtaken at the ring. It's all a bit desperate. Add in a few whoops and high fives and it makes matters worse. Why are they trying to give Chris Harris this weird persona too? It's a shame as without all that nonsense it's a pretty good show in parts.
I can't say I'm looking forward to the return of Eddie Jordan next week either.
Seconded on Jordan!I can't say I'm looking forward to the return of Eddie Jordan next week either.
I don't wish for the daft bits either but that's just what it is. It's what top gear is and it is what the xerox'd grand tour is too.
At least now it's turned back into a car show!
carl_w said:
GarageQueen said:
they're missing Richard Porter's script work imo.....
Yet on the TGT thread people were complaining about Richard Porter's script work. You can please all of the people some of the time... etc.strummerville said:
MarshPhantom said:
FiF said:
strummerville said:
Look on the bright side - you could be forced to watch The Nightly Show. Just when you think it can't get any worse...
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/t...
What's happened to his hair?https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/t...
For those who seem to want Top Gear to be a dry, humourless, car review show, might I point you in the direction of the Internet?
From the Golf R Lease thread, someone posted this link to a YouTube review of it and I think it may be right up your street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5uFdpvJ2M
No Pacman, no shrieky German ladies, just a straight, dry, car review. Fill your boots.
From the Golf R Lease thread, someone posted this link to a YouTube review of it and I think it may be right up your street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5uFdpvJ2M
No Pacman, no shrieky German ladies, just a straight, dry, car review. Fill your boots.
ClockworkCupcake said:
For those who seem to want Top Gear to be a dry, humourless, car review show, might I point you in the direction of the Internet?
From the Golf R Lease thread, someone posted this link to a YouTube review of it and I think it may be right up your street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5uFdpvJ2M
No Pacman, no shrieky German ladies, just a straight, dry, car review. Fill your boots.
I think it was a lack of actual humour people were speaking of? The Pac Man bit was certainly devoid of it. From the Golf R Lease thread, someone posted this link to a YouTube review of it and I think it may be right up your street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5uFdpvJ2M
No Pacman, no shrieky German ladies, just a straight, dry, car review. Fill your boots.
I know what you mean about people posting their different opinions though. It's almost as if this were a discussion thread on an Internet forum.
People are just talking about the parts they did and didn't like. No harm done.
If you want an hour long dry review, with the added 'benefit' of calling out the use of leather in cars, Tomas is yer man:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG0__4AhnoCWRH7TP...
As for TG, on the Oman 'race', whilst it was great to see the Ducati, it only appeared because of VAG. IIRC every wheeled machine in that section was a VAG product, you can't pay for advertising like that. No really...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG0__4AhnoCWRH7TP...
As for TG, on the Oman 'race', whilst it was great to see the Ducati, it only appeared because of VAG. IIRC every wheeled machine in that section was a VAG product, you can't pay for advertising like that. No really...
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