BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread

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ClockworkCupcake

74,624 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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e21Mark said:
People are just talking about the parts they did and didn't like. No harm done. smile
Oh, I have no issues with that at all. What I was commenting on was people who say "Top Gear should ditch this, do that, do more of the other", and I was merely pointing out that there is plenty of YouTube content that fulfils their criteria.


p1stonhead

25,584 posts

168 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Alex said:
The SIARFC at yesterday's recording was:

Sir Chris Hoy
That should be good. Surely guaranteed top of the board now that he races cars too smile

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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sandman77 said:
...and I even like Sabine.
Sabine has had quite a bit of stick in the comments here but I like her too. She seems enthusiastic and fun. I think it's good to have a woman (and European) on the show, not just for the sake of it but someone who has credibility as a driver and petrolhead.

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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mx-6 said:
I think it's good to have a woman (and European) on the show, not just for the sake of it but someone who has credibility as a driver and petrolhead.
Christ on a Ducati! Are people still trotting that out (despite overwhelming ginger-haired evidence to the contrary) as a justification for putting people with bad TV presence on TG?

It's the same reason why the overwhelming majority of sports people are terrible sports pundits - there is very little correlation between being a driver/car fanatic and being a good presenter on a car-based TV show.

Sabine is now a spare part in the show. They already have a surfeit of capable drivers on the team, and their principal one has been seriously underused since Chris Harris came on board.

Edited by r11co on Thursday 30th March 11:41

suffolk009

5,441 posts

166 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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^^ Let's hope this weeks sleb guest is not too good at either TV or driving - or they'll probably be one of the new presenters for the next series.

cologne2792

2,128 posts

127 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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mx-6 said:
sandman77 said:
...and I even like Sabine.
Sabine has had quite a bit of stick in the comments here but I like her too. She seems enthusiastic and fun. I think it's good to have a woman (and European) on the show, not just for the sake of it but someone who has credibility as a driver and petrolhead.
I don't think she's really suited to car reviews but I like her sense of fun very much and she's clearly a superb driver.
Suggestions for TG though:

Ditch The Stig and send him 'home' to the TGT - both shows would benefit in different ways.
Have Sabine set the Lap Times on the TG Track.
Include in each TG serious car test a lap of the Nurburgring with Sabine driving. CHM TG never did that and Ring times seem to be resonant and useful...amongst the youngsters at least.

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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cologne2792 said:
Ditch The Stig and send him 'home' to the TGT - both shows would benefit in different ways.
There's a definite logic in that, and I'm sticking to my hunch after the screening of the first episode of this series that the BBC have an eye on offloading the Stig trademark to W. Chump and Sons to offset some of the loss of revenue from TG since steak-gate.

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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r11co said:
mx-6 said:
I think it's good to have a woman (and European) on the show, not just for the sake of it but someone who has credibility as a driver and petrolhead.
Christ on a Ducati! Are people still trotting that out (despite overwhelming ginger-haired evidence to the contrary) as a justification for putting people with bad TV presence on TG?

It's the same reason why the overwhelming majority of sports people are terrible sports pundits - there is very little correlation between being a driver/car fanatic and being a good presenter on a car-based TV show.

Sabine is now a spare part in the show. They already have a surfeit of capable drivers on the team, and their principal one has been seriously underused since Chris Harris came on board.
Well personally I don't think she has a "bad TV presence". You make a fair point about car fanatics not necessarily making good TV presenters, but Sabine isn't being used as a presenter on TG. They are just getting her involved in some driving pieces and a bit of studio chat here and there, which is good in my opinion.

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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mx-6 said:
but Sabine isn't being used as a presenter on TG. They are just getting her involved in some driving pieces and a bit of studio chat here and there, which is good in my opinion.
Fair enough, but what is she adding now to the show that they don't already have in spades? Sabine at the 'ring has been done to death by TG and Fifth Gear, so why did she pop-up in a three-car video game segment when they already have three presenters (+1 faceless driver)?

I'll repeat the point - there's a reason why a competent production team would keep Sabine's previous appearances on UK-based car related shows brief and infrequent. I strongly suspect that once whatever contract Evans got her to sign has expired we'll see nothing of her again.

Edited by r11co on Thursday 30th March 12:27

zeb

3,204 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Alex said:
The SIARFC at yesterday's recording was:

Sir Chris Hoy
That should be good. Surely guaranteed top of the board now that he races cars too smile
as long as they move the straw bales out of the way he should be fine......

sandman77

2,428 posts

139 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Alex said:
The SIARFC at yesterday's recording was:

Sir Chris Hoy
Oh that should be good. Was it a dry lap time?

simonrockman

6,863 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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cologne2792 said:
Have Sabine set the Lap Times on the TG Track.
That's an inspired idea. But probably has scheduling issues. The idea behind The Stig was that they could drop in whoever was available to work around proper racers having commitments.

Mutley

3,178 posts

260 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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suffolk009 said:
^^ Let's hope this weeks sleb guest is not too good at either TV or driving - or they'll probably be one of the new presenters for the next series.
Well, they are a good driver, and has presented at both national and olympic events

immigrant

397 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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mx-6 said:
(and European)
Utter, utter fool.

suffolk009

5,441 posts

166 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Mutley said:
suffolk009 said:
^^ Let's hope this weeks sleb guest is not too good at either TV or driving - or they'll probably be one of the new presenters for the next series.
Well, they are a good driver, and has presented at both national and olympic events
Good. Let's hope it's not the total snore-fest, time to put the kettle on, Ffwd at x30, that SIARPC has been so far this whole series.

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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r11co said:
mx-6 said:
but Sabine isn't being used as a presenter on TG. They are just getting her involved in some driving pieces and a bit of studio chat here and there, which is good in my opinion.
Fair enough, but what is she adding now to the show that they don't already have in spades? Sabine at the 'ring has been done to death by TG and Fifth Gear, so why did she pop-up in a three-car video game segment when they already have three presenters (+1 faceless driver)?

I'll repeat the point - there's a reason why a competent production team would keep Sabine's previous appearances on UK-based car related shows brief and infrequent. I strongly suspect that once whatever contract Evans got her to sign has expired we'll see nothing of her again.
Yes they have the three main presenters and I don't think she is a necessity to the production of the show but any means. But she is just a different character in the mix, a woman and a european, so adds some more variation to proceedings.

For me Harris is the star of the show, I really like his reviews and car geek personality. He's clearly more at home behind the wheel rather than chatting in the studio, but those are the bits I tune in for. I quite like Le Blank and Rory as personalities but I don't value their opinions on cars in the same way.

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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immigrant said:
mx-6 said:
(and European)
Utter, utter fool.
Why are you are saying I am a fool??

Adenauer

18,581 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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mx-6 said:
immigrant said:
mx-6 said:
(and European)
Utter, utter fool.
Why are you are saying I am a fool??
Probably thinks that your silly little Island is part of Europe. biggrin

mx-6

5,983 posts

214 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Adenauer said:
mx-6 said:
immigrant said:
mx-6 said:
(and European)
Utter, utter fool.
Why are you are saying I am a fool??
Probably thinks that your silly little Island is part of Europe. biggrin
Ha, well I'm really not sure what Immigrant means there. I didn't say it in any negative sense and wasn't trying to make any political point one way or the other.

FourWheelDrift

88,572 posts

285 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Colin Furze has finished the mental motorised dodgem for the Stig - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr0oifJMEI