BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread

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Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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I'm not convinced that anything Clarkson ever said should be considered 'historic', and to suggest this change is 'editing history' is a little overblown.

Things people ssy in the media are edited all the time, for any number of reasons. I'm all for free speech, but when part of a society, sensibilities often have to be taken into account and, therefore, 'history' is continually being edited.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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Philplop said:
Rich_W said:
It's a shame, since we all know George never took himself too seriously and wouldn't have objected,
Not sure about that. When Clarkson reviewed the Jaguar XKR-S he said “It’s very fast and very, very loud. And then in the corners it will get its tail out more readily than George Michael.”

George Michael called him a 'pig-ugly, homophobic tt' on Twitter in response.
Who'd of thought George Michael of all people would be so easily butt hurt. :')

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Philplop said:
Rich_W said:
It's a shame, since we all know George never took himself too seriously and wouldn't have objected,
Not sure about that. When Clarkson reviewed the Jaguar XKR-S he said “It’s very fast and very, very loud. And then in the corners it will get its tail out more readily than George Michael.”

George Michael called him a 'pig-ugly, homophobic tt' on Twitter in response.
Who'd of thought George Michael of all people would be so easily butt hurt. :')
Ha ha ha! It's funny because you're making fun of him being having been homosexual!

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Tuesday 16th May 2017
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schmunk said:
Ha ha ha! It's funny because you're making fun of him being having been homosexual!
Actually it's funny because he used the wrong word too.

defblade

7,435 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Shakermaker said:
defblade said:
Rich_W said:
Not sure we should go back and edit history confused
Try watching You've Been Framed with the subtitles on. They've taken references to, for example, Amy Winehouse, off the vocal track but not updated the subs...
Who would know that? How do you go about finding that out? I mean, I know how you have found it out, but, was that by pure chance?
My daughter "watches" the TV with subtitles on a lot. While texting and being online at the same time and probably listening to music as well. Subtitles let her glance at the screen without having to concentrate on the soundtrack to follow what's happening. Multitasking to the nth.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Doofus said:
I'm not convinced that anything Clarkson ever said should be considered 'historic', and to suggest this change is 'editing history' is a little overblown.

Things people ssy in the media are edited all the time, for any number of reasons. I'm all for free speech, but when part of a society, sensibilities often have to be taken into account and, therefore, 'history' is continually being edited.
Indeed.

But the Bolivia special was filmed 8 years ago laugh

And a throw away gag doesn't need to be edited just because the person has died since the repeat was last aired.



Didn't know George didn't like Clarkson via Twitter

Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Rich_W said:
Indeed.

But the Bolivia special was filmed 8 years ago laugh

And a throw away gag doesn't need to be edited just because the person has died since the repeat was last aired.



Didn't know George didn't like Clarkson via Twitter
Fair point, andd i agree. I do, however, think a lot of what Clarkson says should be editied because it is childish and not very funny.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Doofus said:
Fair point, andd i agree. I do, however, think a lot of what Clarkson says should be editied because it is childish and not very funny.
That would mean all Fast and Furious films would end after the title sequence.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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PhantomPH said:
coppice said:
the only one I'd bin is the shrieking German harpie who I find as unwatchable as she is unlistenable .
THIS THIS THIS
I stumbled upon an edition of fifth gear the other day,from about 2012,she was testing track cars with Tiff and was exceedingly shouty,screemy and annoying on this too.

She'd be fine if she just quietened it down a bit or a lot.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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lucido grigio said:
I stumbled upon an edition of fifth gear the other day,from about 2012,she was testing track cars with Tiff and was exceedingly shouty,screemy and annoying on this too.

She'd be fine if she just quietened it down a bit or a lot.
I think you're grossly underestimating how irritating she is to look at.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Doofus said:
I do, however, think a lot of what Clarkson says should be editied because it is childish and not very funny.
Clarkson's actual ability to be witty and incisive does seem to have mostly deserted him over the last 5-8 years or so. He's gone the way of so many. Thinking that saying something OTT outlandish is a substitute for actual writing ability. (which he DID used to be very good at)

Clarksons occasional tweets just remind me of Bernard Manning shortly before his death still reciting the same gags about "s" and "s" and "Mother-in-Law" thinking he's cutting edge and with it. But the world has moved on.

It's a bit tragic to read the ste Clarkson thinks is "controversial" and funny these days.

"Something" about cyclists
"Something" about the green party
"Something" about Women

768

13,682 posts

96 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Yeah, these days even women laugh at cyclists and the green party.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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I'm not sure how well this bodes for the new series: Top Gear to "Expand the comedy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40959...

If they want to "expand the comedy" then in my mind, they need to learn how to deliver a scripted line as if it is a natural reaction, rather than remembering 4-5 seconds after their cue that they are supposed to say something funny.

Truckosaurus

11,291 posts

284 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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I see from his social media posts that Harris is still filming things for NBC's Drive show.

simonrockman

6,852 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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If they want to see how not to do comedy they have the new series of Top Gear AMERICA!!!!! as a guide.

And you though Evans was too shouty.

Simon

Mungo Terry

905 posts

202 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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simonrockman said:
If they want to see how not to do comedy they have the new series of Top Gear AMERICA!!!!! as a guide.
Indeed, just watched ep1 and they go as far as admitting they know the show is cringeworthy in the first 90 seconds of the show wobble

You'd thing the professional actors (LeBlanc/Dude off prison break) and professional presenters could fake the whole Rapport thing but evidently not. The only ones that manage it seem to be the old gits on the grand tour and Fryburger & Finnegan on roadkill.

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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simonrockman said:
If they want to see how not to do comedy they have the last series of The Grand Tour!!!!! as a guide.



Simon
EFA

qube_TA

8,402 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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Mungo Terry said:
The only ones that manage it seem to be the old gits on the grand tour and Fryburger & Finnegan on roadkill.
I think Roadkill is by far the only consistently entertaining motoring programme about at the moment, been watching it for years think it's really grown, quite addictive and illustrates that you don't have to thrash a hypercar around a track to make for good viewing


suffolk009

5,402 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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I just had a look at the BBC article. Oh dear. That's not going to work really, is it.

I had a look at the comments. 270 of them, mostly saying it'll be crap. I particularly liked the first one: "Chris Harris? No thanks."

Sadly the BBC are trying - desperately - to mimic a show that was unique. To achieve their stated goals, they're going to need at least two new presenters, and a whole room full of writers. Who can write something funny.

DonkeyApple

55,298 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th August 2017
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What about getting three of those guy martins?