Bits of films that make no sense
Discussion
Lynchie999 said:
Pesty said:
everyeggabird said:
Collateral.
Vincent (Cruise) has to make a number of hits in one night and get out of town. He has been at it for years, nobody knows who he is or what he looks like and he goes about his business incognito at night, one guy alone in his apartment, another on his doorstep, lawyer woman working late in empty building etc.
So it makes no sense at all to go into a nightclub in front of hundreds of people and start blasting away.
Been a while since I've Seen it but are not his plans ruined by the taxi driver who just won't do as he's told?Vincent (Cruise) has to make a number of hits in one night and get out of town. He has been at it for years, nobody knows who he is or what he looks like and he goes about his business incognito at night, one guy alone in his apartment, another on his doorstep, lawyer woman working late in empty building etc.
So it makes no sense at all to go into a nightclub in front of hundreds of people and start blasting away.
The bits of that film that are silly is the one taxi driver he picks knows the Mark. In a city of millions of people
everyeggabird said:
Lynchie999 said:
Pesty said:
everyeggabird said:
Collateral.
Vincent (Cruise) has to make a number of hits in one night and get out of town. He has been at it for years, nobody knows who he is or what he looks like and he goes about his business incognito at night, one guy alone in his apartment, another on his doorstep, lawyer woman working late in empty building etc.
So it makes no sense at all to go into a nightclub in front of hundreds of people and start blasting away.
Been a while since I've Seen it but are not his plans ruined by the taxi driver who just won't do as he's told?Vincent (Cruise) has to make a number of hits in one night and get out of town. He has been at it for years, nobody knows who he is or what he looks like and he goes about his business incognito at night, one guy alone in his apartment, another on his doorstep, lawyer woman working late in empty building etc.
So it makes no sense at all to go into a nightclub in front of hundreds of people and start blasting away.
The bits of that film that are silly is the one taxi driver he picks knows the Mark. In a city of millions of people
In Ronin, at the Roman amphitheatre stand off someone utters the immortal line 'f*cked into a cocked hat', which for me trumps 'hearford' and Sean Bean's excitable comments in the S8 prior to being sick.
Much of the script makes little or no sense due to the accents ('Deirdre' as spoken by a Welshman attempting Ulsterman) and shaky dialogue.
Great entertainment. Poor detail (406 vs M5 even contest any day of the week).
Much of the script makes little or no sense due to the accents ('Deirdre' as spoken by a Welshman attempting Ulsterman) and shaky dialogue.
Great entertainment. Poor detail (406 vs M5 even contest any day of the week).
Pesty said:
Teflon coated bullets ffs. 
Did you know just costing a bullet in Teflon makes it bounce off a wall not losing any energy and makes it go through a bullet proof vest no problem
And it's a standard practice to coat brass bullets to protect the barrel from wear.Did you know just costing a bullet in Teflon makes it bounce off a wall not losing any energy and makes it go through a bullet proof vest no problem
http://www.guns.com/2011/10/26/the-myth-of-the-cop...
Halmyre said:
Halb said:
LOgan, the metal in his body is an alien entity, and so his body is constantly fighting, so his healing factor is always supercharged tacking it, tackling the spures maybe? When in one story the metal was ripped out of his body his body had nothing to keep it in check and he turned into a crazy feral, wolfman.
His bones are coated, but they're coated more like steel in concrete, than teflon on a pan.
Plus he's a petulant t
t, not the constantly giving and sacrificing stoic of the books, living like a bum, not knowing if he'll ever make headway against the enemy.
My pet hate was Denethor. I know Connery turned down Gandalf*, but if he'd then been offered Denethor, and played him from the book, it would have been miles better than the 'fiddling while Rome burns' dilettante we saw in the film.His bones are coated, but they're coated more like steel in concrete, than teflon on a pan.
vonuber said:
I'm still annoyed about those films; they bastardised it so much they had to invent scenes to try and get the plot/motivations back on track, rather than just stick with the original scenes which they removed for no good reason.
Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p5zm-9NCh4
Aragorn's entire character is different - in the book he receives the remade sword before they set off, knowing that it is a symbol that the thing he has been striving for his entire life is coming to pass - a proper Man of the West, last of the Numenoreans, off to get his Kingdom back and his uber sword is a symbol of it.
Not this wishy-washy emo gimpboy they feature here, who requires Elrond to travel fking hundreds of miles of wilderness as an errand boy to tell him to man up.
Argh it annoys me so much, it's like not only did they st on my childhood they then set fire to it, buried the corpse, then redug it up a few months later just to take another dump on it.
tts.
Indeed. People seem to know who Aragorn is....so erm...he would have been assassinated years ago by Sauron...end of story. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p5zm-9NCh4
Aragorn's entire character is different - in the book he receives the remade sword before they set off, knowing that it is a symbol that the thing he has been striving for his entire life is coming to pass - a proper Man of the West, last of the Numenoreans, off to get his Kingdom back and his uber sword is a symbol of it.
Not this wishy-washy emo gimpboy they feature here, who requires Elrond to travel f
king hundreds of miles of wilderness as an errand boy to tell him to man up.Argh it annoys me so much, it's like not only did they s
t on my childhood they then set fire to it, buried the corpse, then redug it up a few months later just to take another dump on it.t
ts.Plus he's a petulant t
t, not the constantly giving and sacrificing stoic of the books, living like a bum, not knowing if he'll ever make headway against the enemy.* saying he "didn't understand the script". He then made 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' instead. Go figure...
slipstream 1985 said:
You're missing the single biggest plot hole in the films. Right at the very start of the film, re the ring "history turned to legend, legend turned to mythand the ring fell out of all knowledge. Yet every major player has heard of the ring of power.
That's not really a plot hole though. If someone found Excalibur tomorrow we'd all know what it was.slipstream 1985 said:
You're missing the single biggest plot hole in the films. Right at the very start of the film, re the ring "history turned to legend, legend turned to mythand the ring fell out of all knowledge. Yet every major player has heard of the ring of power.
I read that as knowledge of the ring's whereabouts, or of its disappearance, rather than knowledge of the ring itself. Gandalf has to do a lot of research in between the events of The Hobbit and LOTR to ascertain that Bilbo's ring is the real deal.The Don of Croy said:
In Ronin, at the Roman amphitheatre stand off someone utters the immortal line 'f*cked into a cocked hat', which for me trumps 'hearford' and Sean Bean's excitable comments in the S8 prior to being sick.
surely he's a forrin type, mixing up his idioms etcnot a mistake in my opinion
slipstream 1985 said:
You're missing the single biggest plot hole in the films. Right at the very start of the film, re the ring "history turned to legend, legend turned to mythand the ring fell out of all knowledge. Yet every major player has heard of the ring of power.
I tink Gandalf takes over a decade to piece stuff together to figure out what ring Bilbo owns. Sauraman follows G's lead. Elrond has been around for millenia, and Galadriel is even older. No-one else should know didly though.This has been bugging me for more than two decades, and this is the ideal thread to voice it.
In the film Demolition Man, Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipers) obtains a super-gun that is the size of a small assault rifle that can fire a devastating bolt of energy, but then can't fire again for several minutes whilst it recharges (like a flash gun).
This just makes no sense at all (outside of the plot need for Sly Stallone to have a chance). In reality, such a slow rate of fire would have been unacceptable to the designers and they would have had to trade size and weight for rate of fire - making it much larger and bulkier and used as a Squad Support Weapon. Maybe even making it a Ghostbusters-style large backpack weapon with a heavy cable from the gun to the backpack.
I seem to recall that in the book of the film, that is exactly what it was.
In the film Demolition Man, Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipers) obtains a super-gun that is the size of a small assault rifle that can fire a devastating bolt of energy, but then can't fire again for several minutes whilst it recharges (like a flash gun).
This just makes no sense at all (outside of the plot need for Sly Stallone to have a chance). In reality, such a slow rate of fire would have been unacceptable to the designers and they would have had to trade size and weight for rate of fire - making it much larger and bulkier and used as a Squad Support Weapon. Maybe even making it a Ghostbusters-style large backpack weapon with a heavy cable from the gun to the backpack.
I seem to recall that in the book of the film, that is exactly what it was.
The Don of Croy said:
In Ronin, at the Roman amphitheatre stand off someone utters the immortal line 'f*cked into a cocked hat', which for me trumps 'hearford' and Sean Bean's excitable comments in the S8 prior to being sick.
Much of the script makes little or no sense due to the accents ('Deirdre' as spoken by a Welshman attempting Ulsterman) and shaky dialogue.
Great entertainment. Poor detail (406 vs M5 even contest any day of the week).
I always thought at the start when they say they're in it for the money why didnt one of them take the S8 and sell it - it's would have been worth £70-80k in its day? I gather it would have been stolen, but instead of being shot at for £100k jump in the Audi and go woohoo! and drive away - free expensive fast limo.Much of the script makes little or no sense due to the accents ('Deirdre' as spoken by a Welshman attempting Ulsterman) and shaky dialogue.
Great entertainment. Poor detail (406 vs M5 even contest any day of the week).
Or take the 450 SEL 6.9 and sit on it until 2016 and cash in on the classic car boom...!
Kierkegaard said:
I always thought at the start when they say they're in it for the money why didnt one of them take the S8 and sell it - it's would have been worth £70-80k in its day? I gather it would have been stolen, but instead of being shot at for £100k jump in the Audi and go woohoo! and drive away - free expensive fast limo.
Or take the 450 SEL 6.9 and sit on it until 2016 and cash in on the classic car boom...!
I, for one, would have loved to have seen that film. Or take the 450 SEL 6.9 and sit on it until 2016 and cash in on the classic car boom...!
On a completely unrelated topic, the film Titanic.
Mythbusters did a Titanic Special and had James Cameron as a guest. They investigated whether Rose and Jack could have both stayed afloat on that bit of wood, rather than Jack staying in the water and freezing to death. After some experimentation they concluded that if Rose had taken her life jacket off, and they had wedged it under the wood, then the additional buoyancy would have been sufficient to keep them both afloat.
James Cameron commented that was all very good and interesting, but had he known that then he would have made the bit of wood smaller.
Mythbusters did a Titanic Special and had James Cameron as a guest. They investigated whether Rose and Jack could have both stayed afloat on that bit of wood, rather than Jack staying in the water and freezing to death. After some experimentation they concluded that if Rose had taken her life jacket off, and they had wedged it under the wood, then the additional buoyancy would have been sufficient to keep them both afloat.
James Cameron commented that was all very good and interesting, but had he known that then he would have made the bit of wood smaller.
Did you know James Cameron only made Titanic so that it could fund his expedition down to see the real thing?
CAMERON: I made Titanic because I wanted to dive to the shipwreck, not because I particularly wanted to make the movie. The Titanic was the Mount Everest of shipwrecks, and as a diver I wanted to do it right. When I learned some other guys had dived to the Titanic to make an IMAX movie, I said, “I’ll make a Hollywood movie to pay for an expedition and do the same thing.” <--- this is from a Playboy interview but he also said the same below.
https://www.moviefone.com/2009/11/12/james-cameron...
CAMERON: I made Titanic because I wanted to dive to the shipwreck, not because I particularly wanted to make the movie. The Titanic was the Mount Everest of shipwrecks, and as a diver I wanted to do it right. When I learned some other guys had dived to the Titanic to make an IMAX movie, I said, “I’ll make a Hollywood movie to pay for an expedition and do the same thing.” <--- this is from a Playboy interview but he also said the same below.
https://www.moviefone.com/2009/11/12/james-cameron...
In the film Quadrophenia the Mods travel down to Brighton and gather on the hills to admire their destination.
Except they're looking at Eastbourne from the road to Beachy Head. A different day out would have entailed, but not necessarily any less entertaining. And our hero would still have boffed trout pout in an alleyway.
Just around the headland from Beachy Head is the bay where Kevin Costner landed as Robin Hood in Prince of Thieves, just a short walk from Nottingham as it happens.
In Hangover on the road to 'Vegas they're travelling in the opposite direction in several scenes.
I should stay in more.
Except they're looking at Eastbourne from the road to Beachy Head. A different day out would have entailed, but not necessarily any less entertaining. And our hero would still have boffed trout pout in an alleyway.
Just around the headland from Beachy Head is the bay where Kevin Costner landed as Robin Hood in Prince of Thieves, just a short walk from Nottingham as it happens.
In Hangover on the road to 'Vegas they're travelling in the opposite direction in several scenes.
I should stay in more.
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