Bits of films that make no sense

[Guvernator]

jmorgan said:

Guvernator said:

I watched Assasins Creed recently, half the film was in Spanish so I spent more time reading subtitles then watching the actual film. While I understand it isn't authentic, I'd have preferred it if they spoke English, I'm prepared to give up a little authenticity if it means I can actually enjoy the film more.

Dad Boot would be an exception. I cannot watch that in English, even if it is dubbed by the same actors.

Yep for some films it obviously works, Das Boot being the obvious example but without giving away too many spoilers Fassbenders character is American...except when he isn't. Very jarring and lots of fast action on screen mean you either miss the action or miss the dialogue. They should have just had him speaking English throughout, they could have easily explained it away with some scientific mumbo jumbo like they did with most of the rest of the film.

[FourWheelDrift]

jmorgan said:

Dad Boot would be an exception. I cannot watch that in English, even if it is dubbed by the same actors.

Subtitles are essential on Das Boot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-uif8SYYs

[jmorgan]

FourWheelDrift said:

jmorgan said:

Dad Boot would be an exception. I cannot watch that in English, even if it is dubbed by the same actors.

Subtitles are essential on Das Boot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm-uif8SYYs

Yeah

[jmorgan]

Guvernator said:

Yep for some films it obviously works, Das Boot being the obvious example but without giving away too many spoilers Fassbenders character is American...except when he isn't. Very jarring and lots of fast action on screen mean you either miss the action or miss the dialogue. They should have just had him speaking English throughout, they could have easily explained it away with some scientific mumbo jumbo like they did with most of the rest of the film.

Yeah, not that it is on my list to see. If you want to see a good one, in my opinion anyway. 13th warrior, bit unplausible but did away with @rsing around between Viking, Arabic and English, with danish, Spanish and British actors I think?

[Doofus]

Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes.

Why are the humans so desperate to get the hydro-electric plant working? Why don't they just go inland, and find a solar or wind farm, and live there?

If the dam is already set up to provide power to towns to the North, why don't they just move there?

When they are trying to get the machinery to work, how does that bloke know the relay is faulty. if there's no power to test it?

Why have all the humans taken furniture from other buildings, and turned the shopping mall into a shanty town? They've got the whole city to play in, why not just move into existing, furnished apartments?

And monkeys can't talk, anyway.

Edited by Doofus on Monday 27th February 13:19

[Quickmoose]

Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Dreyfus, another bloke and some blond bint escape the helicopter and make a run for the Devil's mountain thing.
They climb and climb and climb avoiding gas and bullets, climb and slip and climb and eventually after a day's running and climbing, make it safely to the ground level landing strip....

[WilsonWilson]

Pesty said:

Jefferson Steelflex said:

I'm probably being stupid, but i can never understand the scene in Die Hard when John McClane meets Hans Gruber and Gruber pretends to be someone called Bill Clay (as he saw that name on the employee board).

How does McClane know he's not Bill Clay? Never understood it.

He doesn't know it's not bill clay or he'd have just shot him. So he tests him to know for sure by giving him an empty pistol.

Hans bubby then points gun therefore Bruce knows he's one of them.

Full explanation, all to do with watches - http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a822492/a-ma...

As soon as I saw the article I thought of this thread. Maybe Steven Edward de Souza (the screen writer) was waiting for it to come up on PH?

[Mr Snrub]

Such a shame they closed down the IMDB message boards, they were a goldmine for things like this

[Pesty]

WilsonWilson said:

Full explanation, all to do with watches - http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a822492/a-ma...

As soon as I saw the article I thought of this thread. Maybe Steven Edward de Souza (the screen writer) was waiting for it to come up on PH?

Interesting I don't remember him saying to the cop they all have the same watch.

[IanH755]

Pesty said:

WilsonWilson said:

Full explanation, all to do with watches - http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a822492/a-ma...

As soon as I saw the article I thought of this thread. Maybe Steven Edward de Souza (the screen writer) was waiting for it to come up on PH?

Interesting I don't remember him saying to the cop they all have the same watch.

I've just watched the whole "Hans on the rooftop with John" scene and at no point does Hans show his watch or have his left arm sleeve rise enough to uncover it so John can't have seen it, so I'd guess the "he saw the watch" scene was also cut from the film.

[Halb]

It does also fit in with MacLaine being a smart cop, and having a cops nose.
He seems to be the only competent cop in the film.

[Halmyre]

At last! A valid excuse I can give to Lady H for watching 'Die Hard' again.

[RemaL]

grumbledoak said:

Batman vs Superman. The whole film made little sense, but the worst was Superman - he can hear Lois Lane's heartbeat underground in Africa and rescue her in seconds, in fact does exactly that at the start, but he cannot find his own mum a few miles away...

That's not the kind of willing suspension of disbelief that we wanted.

i was going to say the part when lois was held at gun point. Superman arrives, save's Lois and then he's held for killing loads of people.

WTF?
I seen the extended version and makes much more sense but why would not remove the explanation for why he was being held responsible for peoples deaths.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Lucas CAV said:

nonsequitur said:

Lucas CAV said:

nonsequitur said:

In 'The Shawshank Redemption', How did Andy replace the poster of Raquel Welch after he was in the tunnel leading to his escape.

Err.. Lifts it up, climbs in, lets it fall behind him?

Err...yes. But the poster was secured at all corners as can be seen when the warden throws a carving through the middle and then his fist and then his arm, before he rips it away and calls for the dogs.

Apologies - I thought it was simply hanging.

There's nothing in the tunnel discovery scene to suggest it's secured at all 4 corners. What you see on screen, the stone thrown thru the poster and then the governor sticking his finger thru the hole and then his fist, would work just as well if it was just hanging.

[Mr Snrub]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Lucas CAV said:

nonsequitur said:

Lucas CAV said:

nonsequitur said:

In 'The Shawshank Redemption', How did Andy replace the poster of Raquel Welch after he was in the tunnel leading to his escape.

Err.. Lifts it up, climbs in, lets it fall behind him?

Err...yes. But the poster was secured at all corners as can be seen when the warden throws a carving through the middle and then his fist and then his arm, before he rips it away and calls for the dogs.

Apologies - I thought it was simply hanging.

There's nothing in the tunnel discovery scene to suggest it's secured at all 4 corners. What you see on screen, the stone thrown thru the poster and then the governor sticking his finger thru the hole and then his fist, would work just as well if it was just hanging.

Another one from that film - how did he manage to walk back to his cell wearing the warden's shoes without anyone noticing? Morgan Freeman might have asked how often you look at a man's shoes, but if someone was walking towards you wearing prison overalls and perfectly polished formal shoes, you'd notice.

[Morningside]

Zetec-S said:

Mr Snrub said:

The supervillain/evil corporation always have loads of faceless goons ready to throw their lives away. Where do they recruit these people and why are they so eager to join? Does Blofled offer a good holiday package?

Yes, this tends to make me chuckle. Plus the amount of money the super villain must spend to carry out their plan surely is more then the amount they're trying to steal? Die Hard 4.0 - how many henchmen does he have working for him? Plus cars, trucks, helicopters, etc...

Not forgetting the problematic issue of creating a hideaway. Building work, contractors, basic infrastructure of water, gas, electric. Transportation of workers. Drawing up of initial plans. Where do you go saying "I need the secret hideout with lots of features like a deathray"

(Trying to find the YouTube sketch about Death ray)

[Tiggsy]

IanH755 said:

Pesty said:

WilsonWilson said:

Full explanation, all to do with watches - http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a822492/a-ma...

As soon as I saw the article I thought of this thread. Maybe Steven Edward de Souza (the screen writer) was waiting for it to come up on PH?

Interesting I don't remember him saying to the cop they all have the same watch.

I've just watched the whole "Hans on the rooftop with John" scene and at no point does Hans show his watch or have his left arm sleeve rise enough to uncover it so John can't have seen it, so I'd guess the "he saw the watch" scene was also cut from the film.

Wrong!

When Hans jumps down to the floor after seeing his bomb messed with he braces himself with his hands - exposing his watch VERY clearly......and finds himself crouched in front of David Addison.

Having said all that - the watch stuff is not needed anyway.....Bruce is a smart cop, there's this shifty looking bloke with an iffy accent jumping about on the roof. Give him a gun and he's a good guy and you are safe (and he'd be no help with a loaded one anyway as an office guy) - but if he's bad he exposes himself. John has nothing to lose by trying the old "empty gun" trick.

[FourWheelDrift]

Tiggsy said:

Wrong!

When Hans jumps down to the floor after seeing his bomb messed with he braces himself with his hands - exposing his watch VERY clearly.......

Han's hands.

[FourWheelDrift]

Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be the same watch they all wear.

Black/dark grey, round face.


Gold square face.

[boyse7en]

Zetec-S said:

Yes, this tends to make me chuckle. Plus the amount of money the super villain must spend to carry out their plan surely is more then the amount they're trying to steal? Die Hard 4.0 - how many henchmen does he have working for him? Plus cars, trucks, helicopters, etc...

Wasn't it Die Hard 4.0 where someone with too much time on their hands added up the cost of all the stuff that Bruce Willis destroys through the film in his pursuit of the miscreants and worked out t would have been cheaper to pay up in the first place?