Mutiny channel 4

[johnxjsc1985]

Ayahuasca said:

There is rowing and there is rowing. Nobody suggested they go at it like the Boat Race.

I would have made everyone keep their shirts on - bare skin loses more water so not surprising that the most dehydrated was always bare chested.

Some poor planning was evident. They knew exactly how far it was to Timor, and could estimate how many days water they would need. They were becalmed for what, just a week? They should have known there were likely to be windless days, and made provision for it. One additional week should not have been the difference between life and death. Also they could have caught and eaten fish to get water.

Just watched 'unbroken' about Louis Zamperini, a US pilot who survived in a life raft in the Pacific for 47 days. No back up boat for him!

it was flat calm so effort could have been minimal and still made some progress but the more I think about it the more I think like Chris this was staged for the Camera.
Did they all lose similar amounts of weight because the Doc seemed to take a hammering.

[jammy-git]

lemmingjames said:

But the boat was meant to have been a replica of Bligh's so i assume everything was scaled as such, ie Bligh had water for 19 men as opposed to 9 and so the water rations where the same.

They also said that during Blighs trip, it was stormy and raining constantly = fresh supply of water, where as Ant had calm and sunshine

I thought they took as much water as they could find on that island? Which wasn't much?

[WestyCarl]

Nezquick said:

I'd always take the advice of an ex-SAS soldier over a yacht racer when it came to a question of how to survive.

So an ex-SAS bad ass stands up in a small boat, looks you in the eye and says raise your hand if you want Conrad capt instead of me

Even Conrad kept his hand down

[SpeckledJim]

I believe they were given the same water provisions as Bligh carried (pro rata).

But as Bligh's final stretch was done in windy conditions at a good pace, Bligh's crew didn't take as long to make the journey, so didn't run out of water.

If Bligh had been unlucky and faced the same calm weather as Ant&Co, they'd have likely died and we'd have never found out what happened to them.

I thought Ant made the right decision not to row, but was unnecessarily aggressive by inventing the straw-man suggestion that Conrad was attempting to usurp his position as Captain.

Conrad and Ant were both good blokes to have on your side in a pickle, though.

[Black can man]

I'm a week behind so i,ve not read anything on here from Wednesday onwards as I will be watching episode 5 tonight .

The water in the boat in episode 4 has to be a plant surely as I think the pig was in episode 2 .

Think we all have to accept that they are being monitored & kept in decent condition but it's still great telly for me.


Mrs BCM & my youngest daughter are really enjoying this series too but I get the impression that they seem be ogling the handsome Ant rather than the wonderful scenery & storyline.

I'm not going to buy some razors for a month or so.

[Mothersruin]

SBS chaps, SF with a wet bent.

[FiF]

SpeckledJim said:

I believe they were given the same water provisions as Bligh carried (pro rata).

But as Bligh's final stretch was done in windy conditions at a good pace, Bligh's crew didn't take as long to make the journey, so didn't run out of water.

If Bligh had been unlucky and faced the same calm weather as Ant&Co, they'd have likely died and we'd have never found out what happened to them.

I thought Ant made the right decision not to row, but was unnecessarily aggressive by inventing the straw-man suggestion that Conrad was attempting to usurp his position as Captain.

Conrad and Ant were both good blokes to have on your side in a pickle, though.

The decision on not rowing was the correct one. The decision to take on emergency water was also the correct one. Those guys were exhibiting, some more than others, several signs that in the case of dehydration are classed as seek immediate medical attention.

Let's face it, whilst this was presented as a replication of the Bligh voyage there were many ways it wasn't. Correct to say if Bligh had faced those conditions then likely they wouldn't have survived, or taken some different decisions. Ridiculous to put people in a situation with risk of serious life changing health issues for a bloody TV show. Bligh and crew endured storms and rain, once any salt had been washed off the sails they could have rigged up to catch more water than they would ever need.

In essence the decision as suggested by Luke was absolutely spot on. Take on the water, store it, increase intake from the barrel to survive. If they emptied the barrel open up the reserves. No disgrace, no failure. Obviously none of us know how much of it all was engineered and scripted, but no one can deny those guys suffered.

[SpeckledJim]

FiF said:

SpeckledJim said:

I believe they were given the same water provisions as Bligh carried (pro rata).

But as Bligh's final stretch was done in windy conditions at a good pace, Bligh's crew didn't take as long to make the journey, so didn't run out of water.

If Bligh had been unlucky and faced the same calm weather as Ant&Co, they'd have likely died and we'd have never found out what happened to them.

I thought Ant made the right decision not to row, but was unnecessarily aggressive by inventing the straw-man suggestion that Conrad was attempting to usurp his position as Captain.

Conrad and Ant were both good blokes to have on your side in a pickle, though.

The decision on not rowing was the correct one. The decision to take on emergency water was also the correct one. Those guys were exhibiting, some more than others, several signs that in the case of dehydration are classed as seek immediate medical attention.

Let's face it, whilst this was presented as a replication of the Bligh voyage there were many ways it wasn't. Correct to say if Bligh had faced those conditions then likely they wouldn't have survived, or taken some different decisions. Ridiculous to put people in a situation with risk of serious life changing health issues for a bloody TV show. Bligh and crew endured storms and rain, once any salt had been washed off the sails they could have rigged up to catch more water than they would ever need.

In essence the decision as suggested by Luke was absolutely spot on. Take on the water, store it, increase intake from the barrel to survive. If they emptied the barrel open up the reserves. No disgrace, no failure. Obviously none of us know how much of it all was engineered and scripted, but no one can deny those guys suffered.

It was a good compromise, I think the bravado and stubbornness from the cameraman was a bit out of order, and could have unfairly and dangerously influenced other weaker personalities to push it too far.

Ant should in my view have defused the situation and taken all the macho pressure away by taking the water from the rescue boat, swallowing his pride, and downing a pint or two straight away.

That would have been a confident and generous thing to do, and it would have taken any shame or pressure off everyone else. As you say, it's only a bloody TV show, and those lads were in bad shape.

[johnxjsc1985]

WestyCarl said:

So an ex-SAS bad ass stands up in a small boat, looks you in the eye and says raise your hand if you want Conrad capt instead of me

Even Conrad kept his hand down

I found myself with my hand in the air also.

[WestyCarl]

johnxjsc1985 said:

WestyCarl said:

So an ex-SAS bad ass stands up in a small boat, looks you in the eye and says raise your hand if you want Conrad capt instead of me

Even Conrad kept his hand down

I found myself with my hand in the air also.

whilst watching it from the safety of your sofa

[johnxjsc1985]

WestyCarl said:

whilst watching it from the safety of your sofa

It was definitely better than being stuck in that boat that's for sure but the weight loss wouldn't have gone a miss

[Adz The Rat]

Very good series, emotional ending, looks like they all really bonded and were thankful they have accomplished it.

This is the sort of reality TV worth watching!