Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers

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Cold

15,255 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Porter gives the real reason why Edd left Wheeler Dealers: Link

TEKNOPUG

18,977 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Yipper said:
Sump said:
Yipper said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yipper said:
More a case of another good British company rolling over without a fight and letting foreign firms take them over and take the p*ss.

Think Edd has made a mistake in his decision (unless he was pushed). WD is currently the world's second biggest car show, with ~150m viewers. He is never going to get a gig as big as that ever again. He is not charismatic enough to pull it off. Even Clarkson, the world's biggest TV star a few years ago, has faded away after his big switch from BBC to Amazon. Edd will be happy now, but will likely come to regret the decision in a year or two when his income has dropped, YouTube viewers have shrunk, and he is stuck on a niche TV channel somewhere that nobody watches.
I don't think it's 150m people watching Edd though. They're watching their own 'Edd' in many cases. He's just seen in the U.K. And the countries that broadcast the U.K. show from what he alluded to in his video.
He does. WD is one of Discovery's top 10 shows worldwide and is shown / replayed (with or without subtitles / dubbing) in dozens of countries.

The new American owners have obviously decided to dumb down WD to grow its relatively modest US audience. Edd should have played the game and kept collecting his pay cheque. A rise in rich US viewers would have meant a rise in his paypacket. Instead, he's probably now going to fade away to obscurity and his income will likely never reach the same heights. From a career perspective, it looks like a bad move.
Some people just don't give a fk about money. This is usually from people who have money.
What people say, and what people really think or do, are often two different things. When the dust settles, he'll sit down and quietly wonder where his career went.
In the direction that he wanted?

Sump

5,484 posts

168 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Yipper said:
Sump said:
Yipper said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yipper said:
More a case of another good British company rolling over without a fight and letting foreign firms take them over and take the p*ss.

Think Edd has made a mistake in his decision (unless he was pushed). WD is currently the world's second biggest car show, with ~150m viewers. He is never going to get a gig as big as that ever again. He is not charismatic enough to pull it off. Even Clarkson, the world's biggest TV star a few years ago, has faded away after his big switch from BBC to Amazon. Edd will be happy now, but will likely come to regret the decision in a year or two when his income has dropped, YouTube viewers have shrunk, and he is stuck on a niche TV channel somewhere that nobody watches.
I don't think it's 150m people watching Edd though. They're watching their own 'Edd' in many cases. He's just seen in the U.K. And the countries that broadcast the U.K. show from what he alluded to in his video.
He does. WD is one of Discovery's top 10 shows worldwide and is shown / replayed (with or without subtitles / dubbing) in dozens of countries.

The new American owners have obviously decided to dumb down WD to grow its relatively modest US audience. Edd should have played the game and kept collecting his pay cheque. A rise in rich US viewers would have meant a rise in his paypacket. Instead, he's probably now going to fade away to obscurity and his income will likely never reach the same heights. From a career perspective, it looks like a bad move.
Some people just don't give a fk about money. This is usually from people who have money.
What people say, and what people really think or do, are often two different things. When the dust settles, he'll sit down and quietly wonder where his career went.
Wtf? Are you really proposing that he hasn't already sat down and thought about it?

t400ble

1,804 posts

122 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Jimboka said:
What about Paul !
Left the show a while back

Flip Martian

19,718 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Sump said:
Yipper said:
Sump said:
Yipper said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yipper said:
More a case of another good British company rolling over without a fight and letting foreign firms take them over and take the p*ss.

Think Edd has made a mistake in his decision (unless he was pushed). WD is currently the world's second biggest car show, with ~150m viewers. He is never going to get a gig as big as that ever again. He is not charismatic enough to pull it off. Even Clarkson, the world's biggest TV star a few years ago, has faded away after his big switch from BBC to Amazon. Edd will be happy now, but will likely come to regret the decision in a year or two when his income has dropped, YouTube viewers have shrunk, and he is stuck on a niche TV channel somewhere that nobody watches.
I don't think it's 150m people watching Edd though. They're watching their own 'Edd' in many cases. He's just seen in the U.K. And the countries that broadcast the U.K. show from what he alluded to in his video.
He does. WD is one of Discovery's top 10 shows worldwide and is shown / replayed (with or without subtitles / dubbing) in dozens of countries.

The new American owners have obviously decided to dumb down WD to grow its relatively modest US audience. Edd should have played the game and kept collecting his pay cheque. A rise in rich US viewers would have meant a rise in his paypacket. Instead, he's probably now going to fade away to obscurity and his income will likely never reach the same heights. From a career perspective, it looks like a bad move.
Some people just don't give a fk about money. This is usually from people who have money.
What people say, and what people really think or do, are often two different things. When the dust settles, he'll sit down and quietly wonder where his career went.
Wtf? Are you really proposing that he hasn't already sat down and thought about it?
To be fair its the kind of thing people who are focused on money and career would say - they can't understand any other POV is valid.

On a separate note I do find all these videos a bit cringy. Mike, Edd and Ant are all talking to camera about "such a momentous decision" and in truth its a car show seen on satellite channels that most people not into cars even know about. The world carries on turning.

DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Flip Martian said:
To be fair its the kind of thing people who are focused on money and career would say - they can't understand any other POV is valid.

On a separate note I do find all these videos a bit cringy. Mike, Edd and Ant are all talking to camera about "such a momentous decision" and in truth its a car show seen on satellite channels that most people not into cars even know about. The world carries on turning.
You say that but I'm sure the readers of both Cockernee Monthly and Syrup Weekly also are keen to know who will be olding out their aaand to Mike now Gandalf the giraffe botherer has done one.

oobster

7,102 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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A shame, the main reason for watching was Edd in the workshop working on the cars, could never be bothered with the Mike buying & selling bits.

There definitely seemed to be something afoot in the last series though, Mike was doing more stuff to the cars in the American workshop.

I'll give the new series with Ant a bash but I hope Edd comes back in a similar role on another show.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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oobster said:
A shame, the main reason for watching was Edd in the workshop working on the cars, could never be bothered with the Mike buying & selling bits.
I would be happy to step forward, lock him in a box and melt the key.

DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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oobster said:
A shame, the main reason for watching was Edd in the workshop working on the cars, could never be bothered with the Mike buying & selling bits.

There definitely seemed to be something afoot in the last series though, Mike was doing more stuff to the cars in the American workshop.

I'll give the new series with Ant a bash but I hope Edd comes back in a similar role on another show.
It is a slightly odd thing that you would think that if someone has gone to the effort to watch a car fixing program it is to see the car being fixed whereas in reality the majority of viewers clearly want to see more of the bits that have nothing to do with the car. The TV producers aren't stupid and know their stuff so the big question is that if 150m people watch Wheeler Dealers just why the juddering fk are the majority of them doing so if they don't want to see the actual car fixing element??????

spikeyhead

17,358 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Yipper said:
What people say, and what people really think or do, are often two different things. When the dust settles, he'll sit down and quietly wonder where his career went.
I took a conscious decision to halve my income a few years ago. Life is now much better as I'm doing what I enjoy for eight hours a day rather than what pays most. I'm sure Edd has enough talent to get by doing what he chooses rather than lurking in the background of a show he's no longer the important part of.

gmaz

4,415 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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vsonix said:
Does Edd ever not wear long sleeves under a T shirt? What is he hiding? Neo Nazi tattoos?
Answered here - @5:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSL9q6a1_s

He has pale forearms that don't look good on camera!

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Tragic frown

sliced bread

202 posts

220 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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'China owned an MOT and servicing garage in Bracknell, called Grease Junkie which went bankrupt in August 2016, owing £685,614.' (Wikipedia)

What's this about? Anybody know?

yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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sliced bread said:
'China owned an MOT and servicing garage in Bracknell, called Grease Junkie which went bankrupt in August 2016, owing £685,614.' (Wikipedia)

What's this about? Anybody know?
Grease Junkie Garage Limited Liquidation report said:
Grease Junkie Garage Limited was placed into liquidation at meetings of its members and creditors on 5th August 2016. Michal Fortune and Carl Faulds were appointed as joint liquidators of the company.

Creditors can read the first report here
The company was incorporated in October 2009 as a web based retailer of products featured in the TV show Wheeler Dealers.
In 2012 the company acquired the business of a motor garage in Bracknell, Berkshire, which included and MOT testing facility. As a result of the sale the MOT tester resigned which left the company in difficulty. As well as this it transpired that there were sums due to the employees and creditors which had not previously been disclosed. The company was obliged to settle the claims and as such significant unbudgeted costs were incurred.

Following the sale the staff were unable to adapt to the different working methods, resulting in four different managers being appointed over time to try to manage the garage. The premises itself was also in a very poor condition. It was envisaged that the image of the garage would be improved to make it a bench mark for the industry. In order to accomplish this a major refurbishment was undertaken resulting in additional workspace to allow more vehicles to be tested at any one time and to generally increase the profile of the garage. It is estimated that the refurbishments cost in excess of £450,000.

Despite some improvements being made by the introduction of a new director, who resolved a number of the ongoing staff issues , the company was unable to retain an MOT tester and as such had its MOT licence removed. This resulted in the loss of MOT business and also the ancillary repair work that came with it and the company experienced severe cash-flow difficulties.

A new manager was found who implemented significant changes and improved the position of the garage business, but was unable to prevent the arrears to HMRC from increasing. In addition the energy provider made a claim for supply which was disputed by the company. The matter was referred to the regulator, although this was not able to prevent the supplier from issuing a statutory demand and a subsequent petition to wind-up the company. The directors and shareholders wished for the company to enter into voluntary liquidation in order that any goodwill would be preserved to allow a sale of the business to be achieved and as such meetings were convened to place the company into voluntary liquidation.
http://portbfs.co.uk/blog/articles/grease-junkie-g...
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0704533...


Although other web sources appear to show a "still in business" business...

http://thegarageblog.co.uk/grease-junkie-ltd/
https://www.netmums.com/east-berkshire/local/view/...

Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 23 March 23:08

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY

So, there you go.

Thirteen years? Gulp...

ClockworkCupcake

74,632 posts

273 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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gmaz said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Well there you have it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY
Another great British TV idea taken over and ruined by the Americans to add to the list.
mybrainhurts said:
Indeed. There we go.

Again.



CoolHands

18,714 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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So basically ballsed it up in every way possible. Bought a garage that had significant outstanding expenses they had to pay. Couldn't retain staff. Lost vital MOT mechanic and licence. Building was fked.

Sounds great.

yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Sounds to me like they felt they could trade on the "serviced by Edd China" idea. Except Edd was never there, but mostly away filming Wheeler Dealers.

Customers are, on the whole, not entirely stupid and can work out for themselves that it's a far better idea to get your car worked on by a reliable, trustworthy, non-'celebrity' mechanic somewhere else than it is to take it to a garage with high staff turnover where once in a blue moon "that tall chap off the telly" just might actually lean on your car while he drinks his brew.

If Edd was on the workshop floor, making the daily decisions and doing some spannering, then it might be worth being a customer. If he's just a director, and absent from the premises more often than not, then it just becomes A.N. Other Motors Ltd, with no real USP.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
gmaz said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Well there you have it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY
Another great British TV idea taken over and ruined by the Americans to add to the list.
mybrainhurts said:
Indeed. There we go.

Again.
Well, bugger me with a soggy leek and call me surprised....

r11co

6,244 posts

231 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
The TV producers aren't stupid and know their stuff so the big question is that if 150m people watch Wheeler Dealers just why the juddering fk are the majority of them doing so if they don't want to see the actual car fixing element??????
It's called pursuing a bigger market. They don't know that more people watch Wheeler Dealers don't want to see the actual car fixing element. They know that there are other car shows that don't have as much fixing in them that get bigger audiences and want to emulate them. The problem with that strategy is that loses sight of the program's USP.

Think of when Microsoft totally ballsed-up Windows 8 by trying to turn it into a touch-screen operating system to pursue sales in the tablet/phone market. In doing so they alienated their core desktop/laptop market, trashed their already fragile reputation, and had to backtrack with Windows 10.