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richwain24 said:
I am yet to watch this, went to watch the first one on Netflix, not sure it's my thing but from reading this thread I might now give it a watch. Would everyone recommend it???
Depends what is your thing. Me, I’d never go see a superhero movie at the cinema for example. Last film I watched before this at the cinema was Oppenheimer. I didn’t have any issue with the pacing or the run time but it’s clear my tastes are not light entertainment. I would say it is definitely deserving of being watched on a big screen rather than at home. It demands attention. That said if your tastes run opposite to mine I can see how 3 hrs would be a stretch.
Might actually go watch it again at the imax.
richwain24 said:
I am yet to watch this, went to watch the first one on Netflix, not sure it's my thing but from reading this thread I might now give it a watch. Would everyone recommend it???
I think part 1 and 2 are brilliant sci-fi movies, in fact I'd say they are up there with some of the best sci-fi made in the last decade. However the films are not to everyone's taste. If you are expecting modern cinema style, crash, bang, wallop, they certainly aren't that. Not to say there isn't any action but they are based on a lengthy and very in depth book so the film spends a lot of time world building, developing the story and characters. Definitely a slower paced and more cerebral experience then most modern audiences are used to so if you have a short attention span, I'd steer clear.richwain24 said:
I am yet to watch this, went to watch the first one on Netflix, not sure it's my thing but from reading this thread I might now give it a watch. Would everyone recommend it???
I'll add my 2p. As others have said, it depends on what's "your thing". IMO (I'd say I have an eclectic taste in movies but a hardcore sci-fi fan at heart)......They are both movies that create a world and scale seldom seen in movies now. More than that, they manage to weave a complex story that deals with intergalactic politics, love, destiny and what it means to belong in a stunningly beautiful landscape with one of the best music scores of modern times. Part 2 especially.
I'd never read Dune or seen the 1984 film before, but Part 1 blew me away. Part 2 I've now seen 3 times (and I'd see again tomorrow if I had the time) made me go and watch the Lynch version and once Messiah is out, I'll read the books for sure.
I can understand why some people don't like the films, everyone's taste is different but I think those that it does land with (which is a huge number of people) seem to love it.
Guvernator said:
I think part 1 and 2 are brilliant sci-fi movies, in fact I'd say they are up there with some of the best sci-fi made in the last decade. However the films are not to everyone's taste. If you are expecting modern cinema style, crash, bang, wallop, they certainly aren't that. Not to say there isn't any action but they are based on a lengthy and very in depth book so the film spends a lot of time world building, developing the story and characters. Definitely a slower paced and more cerebral experience then most modern audiences are used to so if you have a short attention span, I'd steer clear.
That seems like a very fair appraisal.Guvernator said:
richwain24 said:
I am yet to watch this, went to watch the first one on Netflix, not sure it's my thing but from reading this thread I might now give it a watch. Would everyone recommend it???
I think part 1 and 2 are brilliant sci-fi movies, in fact I'd say they are up there with some of the best sci-fi made in the last decade. However the films are not to everyone's taste. If you are expecting modern cinema style, crash, bang, wallop, they certainly aren't that. Not to say there isn't any action but they are based on a lengthy and very in depth book so the film spends a lot of time world building, developing the story and characters. Definitely a slower paced and more cerebral experience then most modern audiences are used to so if you have a short attention span, I'd steer clear.
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Of course they did Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Yeah they sound like true fans to me. Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Meanwhile, anyone I know who has even a passing interest in Sci-Fi and who has even heard of Dune says it is fantastic.
But, sure. You try to make an opinion into a fact if you want to.
Narcisus said:
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Of course they did Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Yeah they sound like true fans to me. Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Meanwhile, anyone I know who has even a passing interest in Sci-Fi and who has even heard of Dune says it is fantastic.
But, sure. You try to make an opinion into a fact if you want to.
liked the first film, not the second.Mojooo said:
Narcisus said:
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Of course they did Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
If you thought Part 1 was dull though I can absolutely see why you wouldn't like Part 2, these films just aren't for you.
C5_Steve said:
Mojooo said:
Narcisus said:
Mojooo said:
Style over substance
Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
Of course they did Thought it was awful and even worse than the first one which I found dull as hell but could kind of see why others liked it as it was building up to something. Part 2 was terrible and even the 2 Dune fans who made me go thought the same.
If you thought Part 1 was dull though I can absolutely see why you wouldn't like Part 2, these films just aren't for you.
I watched part two for a second time yesterday afternoon. Once again I was frustrated by the unnecessary changes and liberties taken with Herbert’s careful world building.
I.e why shields aren’t really used on Dune and why Lazguns definitely aren’t used on shielded enemies (mostly making both technologies redundant), A Bene Geserit crying in the first one was a stretch, but throwing up… come on, but this is just the silly technical stuff.
The real problem for me are the character changes. I’ve posted about them on this thread previously, so won’t repeat myself.
The more I think about it the more I feel the David Lynch movie was a closer adaptation of the source material. (Yes I know there are some major changes, but the imperial dynamics are much clearer with the spacing guild really pulling the strings)
It’s a good science fiction film, just not the faithful adaptation I’d hoped for. That makes me sad as I don’t suppose I’ll live long enough for a proper faithful adaptation.
C5_Steve said:
IMDB also has Part 2 rated far higher than Part 1 if you want to use that site as a scale.........I'd say it's safe to say it's the minority that didn't like Part 2.
If you thought Part 1 was dull though I can absolutely see why you wouldn't like Part 2, these films just aren't for you.
I thought P1 was just OK the first time I saw it, found it dull as hell the second.If you thought Part 1 was dull though I can absolutely see why you wouldn't like Part 2, these films just aren't for you.
P2 was much better all round though. Not enough that I want to watch it again.
I think overall I preferred the first film version.
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