Fallout : TV show
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page3 said:
Really enjoyed episode one.
Not keen on them all being released at once as it removes any possibility to discuss things as the series progresses.
Also wasn’t a fan of the overly exaggerated graphic uber-violence which rather detracted from the plot and means our teenager can’t watch it with us. 15 certificate? Really, should be an 18 at least.
The John Wick series of films are like this, some 15, some 18 rating. All have sadistic violence which should stop them being 15 rated.Not keen on them all being released at once as it removes any possibility to discuss things as the series progresses.
Also wasn’t a fan of the overly exaggerated graphic uber-violence which rather detracted from the plot and means our teenager can’t watch it with us. 15 certificate? Really, should be an 18 at least.
I totally agree with any parents right to disagree with the rating and choose to not let their kids watch content though.
Just finished the series.
I lost interest after about episode 4. Continued to the end though, other than the last 20 mins of the last episode as I really had lost interest by that point and had something else to do.
Not a gamer but the plot sounded interesting when I saw it advertised.
I lost interest after about episode 4. Continued to the end though, other than the last 20 mins of the last episode as I really had lost interest by that point and had something else to do.
Not a gamer but the plot sounded interesting when I saw it advertised.
xx99xx said:
Just finished the series.
I lost interest after about episode 4. Continued to the end though, other than the last 20 mins of the last episode as I really had lost interest by that point and had something else to do.
Not a gamer but the plot sounded interesting when I saw it advertised.
I think (just my opinion) that the bulk release causes these issues. Don’t get me wrong, I loved it, but binged it, and was getting a bit ‘overload’ by ep4. My fault, but I think I would’ve enjoyed it more if it was released in (say) 2 episode ‘drops’.I lost interest after about episode 4. Continued to the end though, other than the last 20 mins of the last episode as I really had lost interest by that point and had something else to do.
Not a gamer but the plot sounded interesting when I saw it advertised.
croyde said:
I'm dripfeeding it and having the odd evening off.
Reading stuff online and interesting that the nuclear war occured in 2077.
The scene in episode one looked like a different version of the 60s to me, they even had black and white TVs.
It's an alternate timeline to ours, and there is a retro futuristic vibe. So they had power armour and laser weapons, but didn't have transistors or microelectronics. Hence black & white televisions and a 60's vibe in their 21st century Reading stuff online and interesting that the nuclear war occured in 2077.
The scene in episode one looked like a different version of the 60s to me, they even had black and white TVs.
It's just part of the vibe & lore of the games.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
page3 said:
Also wasn’t a fan of the overly exaggerated graphic uber-violence which rather detracted from the plot and means our teenager can’t watch it with us. 15 certificate? Really, should be an 18 at least.
The violence, gore, and gibs are entirely consistent with the game and, honestly, I think a 15 cert is entirely appropriate. You're having a laugh if you think it's worthy of an 18 and your teenager has probably seen far worse behind your back already. If you think that was uber-violence then you clearly have never watched anything uber-violent.
DodgyGeezer said:
I do get where Pg3 is coming from though. It was quite violent and gory - had it been released in the 1960's I suspect it may have got banned or in the 1980's been tagged a "video-nasty". The fact that they are now 15 rated is to be both celebrated and lamented: celebrated, as we are more liberal and free to watch what we fancy; lamented as we seem to be reverting back towards a more violent society which we thought we'd progressed from...
Perhaps.Anyway, my point was that this is video game violence that is entirely consistent with the games upon which this TV series is based and is further evidence that the people who made it "get" Fallout.
edit: Having said that, I just went and checked my physical copies of Fo3, Fo:NV, and Fo4, and discovered that all 3 of them are PEGI-18 so I will concede the point in that case.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Sunday 21st April 15:38
DodgyGeezer said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
page3 said:
Also wasn’t a fan of the overly exaggerated graphic uber-violence which rather detracted from the plot and means our teenager can’t watch it with us. 15 certificate? Really, should be an 18 at least.
The violence, gore, and gibs are entirely consistent with the game and, honestly, I think a 15 cert is entirely appropriate. You're having a laugh if you think it's worthy of an 18 and your teenager has probably seen far worse behind your back already. If you think that was uber-violence then you clearly have never watched anything uber-violent.
Although if they showed half the stuff you can do in the games it would have been banned, we are talking about a series where you can kill countless innocent people (including kids in the first two games), nuke an entire town or sell children into slavery.
CT05 Nose Cone said:
Although if they showed half the stuff you can do in the games it would have been banned, we are talking about a series where you can kill countless innocent people (including kids in the first two games), nuke an entire town or sell children into slavery.
Indeed, PEGI-18 says:"The adult classification is applied when the level of violence reaches a stage where it becomes a depiction of gross violence, apparently motiveless killing, or violence towards defenceless characters. The glamorisation of the use of illegal drugs and of the simulation of gambling, and explicit sexual activity should also fall into this age category. "
Well, that's pretty much the definition of the Fallout games,
Clockwork Cupcake said:
It's an alternate timeline to ours, and there is a retro futuristic vibe. So they had power armour and laser weapons, but didn't have transistors or microelectronics. Hence black & white televisions and a 60's vibe in their 21st century
It's just part of the vibe & lore of the games.
Yep, it's best to effectively treat it as "what if 1950s USA lasted another 120 years?", with a divergence from our reality post WW2.It's just part of the vibe & lore of the games.
There is an interesting bit of lore you can find in Fallout 76 (by "interesting", I mean to me and CC, and no-one else
) that the US uses DC current for the power supply, not AC, even though that should have been very dug in with AC power transmission infrastructure everywhere before the timeline diverged. My theory is that the massively expanded use of small local nuclear power generation justified switching back to DC.InitialDave said:
Yep, it's best to effectively treat it as "what if 1950s USA lasted another 120 years?", with a divergence from our reality post WW2.
Indeed. Or, another way to look at it, is that it's what people in (our) 1950's thought the 2070's would look like. Hence my reference to "retrofuturism" (which is an actual thing). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrofuturism
But, yes, in-world / in-game, it's an alternate timeline where mid-century America never really changed much.
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
In my opinion The Shield is right up there with Band of Brothers and The Sopranos as the greatest tv shows ever made. Walton Goggins was brilliant in The Shield and the main reason why I've just watched Fallout. I'm not a gamer so had never heard of Fallout and had no idea of the storyline. I saw a trailer and knew it was Walton Goggins so decided I'd give it a try. It was good and I'd definitely watch a second series.
He plays a trans prostitute in Sons of Anarchy, which certainly shows his range after playing a corrupt redneck cop in The Shield.
.Loving this so far. Not played the games very much but this is great. I love the looks and the production values are really high. It was just renewed for Season 2 as well. I only have one episode left though. 
One part that does confuse me a little is how long they were in the vault. Lucy is clearly very late teens or early 20's and Lucy was, I believe, born in the vault. Yet when she leaves Maximus/Titus seems to suggest it's only been a few years, certainly no more than a decade. The Ghoul, while, well, a ghoul and the flashbacks don't appear to be that long ago and Molldiver looked mid 40's in the flashbacks too. How long since the vaults were closed and when Lucy leaves has passed because her Dad also talks about meeting her mum in a vault exchange.
One part that does confuse me a little is how long they were in the vault. Lucy is clearly very late teens or early 20's and Lucy was, I believe, born in the vault. Yet when she leaves Maximus/Titus seems to suggest it's only been a few years, certainly no more than a decade. The Ghoul, while, well, a ghoul and the flashbacks don't appear to be that long ago and Molldiver looked mid 40's in the flashbacks too. How long since the vaults were closed and when Lucy leaves has passed because her Dad also talks about meeting her mum in a vault exchange.
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