Jonny Smith's Late Brake Show...

[ettore]

sjabrown said:

Would be good if he did a rare-but-nobody-cares playlist. I've got a vehicle similarly rare to the BMW but worth about a 100th of it... a beige Citroen LNA.

Congratulations, wonderfully niche. They were rare and nobody cared when they were new, let alone now!

[miniman]

ettore said:

sjabrown said:

Would be good if he did a rare-but-nobody-cares playlist. I've got a vehicle similarly rare to the BMW but worth about a 100th of it... a beige Citroen LNA.

Congratulations, wonderfully niche. They were rare and nobody cared when they were new, let alone now!

Agreed, brilliant for there to still be some of these sort of cars left even if they were never terribly popular.

[PinkTornado]

I don't mind Jonny showing us automotive dross like this as I like to be informed about everything, no matter what. EVs have got to get cheaper, and manufacturers have got to move away from all these poxy huge SUVs, so stuff like this at least helps a bit- fairly dismal as it may be.

[Smollet]

PinkTornado said:

I don't mind Jonny showing us automotive dross like this as I like to be informed about everything, no matter what. EVs have got to get cheaper, and manufacturers have got to move away from all these poxy huge SUVs, so stuff like this at least helps a bit- fairly dismal as it may be.

EV second hand prices have plummeted recently.

[Mezzanine]

Doofus said:

Mezzanine said:

Doofus said:

What makes you think I'm not chilled, "bro"?

Nice to see you back around here more Doofus, I’ve missed you.

I'm not back, really. But every so often I come here and find people who need their opinions corrected.

Then I feel ashamed and fk off again...

[PinkTornado]

Smollet said:

EV second hand prices have plummeted recently.

...but not new ones, which is what I was talking about.

[ajprice]

If the price of the Spring is just below or around £20k, it will be close to the new Citroen C3 EV at just over £20k which is a bit bigger at 4m long (vs 3.7m), with 113bhp (vs 65bhp) and around 200 mile WLTP range (vs 137 miles).

[EddieSteadyGo]

ajprice said:

If the price of the Spring is just below or around £20k, it will be close to the new Citroen C3 EV at just over £20k which is a bit bigger at 4m long (vs 3.7m), with 113bhp (vs 65bhp) and around 200 mile WLTP range (vs 137 miles).

Indeed. I do think we definitely need lower priced 'entry level' EVs but I think the Spring is entering the market at a spec similar/worse than a 10 year old Leaf. Once BYD (and others) start to properly focus on the UK market (which will be within 2 years I think), and they start pricing their Dolphin model somewhere similar to the prices they sell in China (less than $20k), the Spring is going to look massively uncompetitive.

[BevR]

The Spring is the kind of vehicle that the government should be offering tax breaks on if it wants wider uptake of EVs. Yes it is naff, but then again its a basic transportation thats not trying to be anything more.

I was more interested in this than yet another ineeficient 200kg+ monster that costs twice the average salary.

[21st Century Man]

Jonny reviews interesting cars, that's his stock in trade. The exception seems to be EV's. He wouldn't dream of reviewing a plain Jane, dull, boggo, ordinary grey porridge bread & butter car, like say a mid range 5dr 1.6 petrol Astra, but a plain Jane, dull, boggo, ordinary grey porridge bread and butter mid range 5dr 80kw electric Astra and he'd be all over it. I don't get it? Dull st is dull st, no matter where the motive power comes from.

[AC43]

P-Jay said:

It was an odd one, not a bard find, but then some of the bard finds have been 40 mins of Jonny trying to show off a rusty rarity that's a) unlikely to turn a wheel again b) could be described more 'not a popular spec when new' rather than a limited run rarity.

I didn't find the guy shifty per-se, if he wasn't working class, you might call him eccentric, he seems a pretty private person and he clearly loves cars and bikes and likes oddities, I haven't seen a Buell in a long time.

Car is cool, Tuning in the 80s was tough going, £7000 (£18k in today's money) got you some wheels and tyres, a strut brace and about 20bhp extra.

£100k? Obvs Jonny's mate saw the value, but finding someone else who does who has the money? I don't know.

Even PH couldn't save a rough one from being broken up in 2010 when a seller couldn't be found for £700

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features-sheds...

£6500 for a nice 4.7 in 2007

https://www.birdsauto.com/sites/default/files/pdfs...

I'm not suggesting that because they were cheap more than a decade ago, they're not very valuable now, there are lots of example of that, but it's not a rare M car or an Alpina, is there the audience for a 6 figure old five series from a dead tuning brand few remember.

Personally I found that one utterly fascinating. I was really interested at the time by what AC Schnitzer (sp?), Brabus, AMG and Hargte were getting up to and I still am.

In the early 90s I worked in a tech company and the UK MD had a Hartge 840 - that was an amazing bit of kit.

All those German tuners made a mark on me and I ended up getting into a couple of AMGs myself 10 years later.

Loved that one.

[ZedLeg]

21st Century Man said:

Jonny reviews interesting cars, that's his stock in trade. The exception seems to be EV's. He wouldn't dream of reviewing a plain Jane, dull, boggo, ordinary grey porridge bread & butter car, like say a mid range 5dr 1.6 petrol Astra, but a plain Jane, dull, boggo, ordinary grey porridge bread and butter mid range 5dr 80kw electric Astra and he'd be all over it. I don't get it? Dull st is dull st, no matter where the motive power comes from.

He’s very into evs and wants to see where the tech is going. I like them more than the barn find vids tbh.

I like the cars but could do without the waffle

[Escy]

I watch the majority of his stuff but I can't bring myself the click on the Dacia video.

[geeman237]

I’ve no idea who the Podcast(?) presenter is but it’s a very good interview with Jonny Smith about his career and Late Brake Show.
It is an hour and a half long though, but I enjoyed it all and wish him continued success with his projects.

https://youtu.be/R4cJz1iYZRc?si=KruydKkaaCSTWHSL

[NordicCrankShaft]

Loved the episode with the E34 Hartge H5.

Having owned a normal E34 535i Sport manual, this massively appealed, loved that car!

[AC43]

geeman237 said:

I’ve no idea who the Podcast(?) presenter is but it’s a very good interview with Jonny Smith about his career and Late Brake Show.
It is an hour and a half long though, but I enjoyed it all and wish him continued success with his projects.

https://youtu.be/R4cJz1iYZRc?si=KruydKkaaCSTWHSL

Brilliant pod, thanks. I'm 2/3 the way through and also want to listen to the Mat Armstrong one.

Glad my income doesn't rely on Youtube though. That sounds like a tough gig,

[PinkTornado]

Launch video for the Renault 5- a lot there that I actually like, but not the putrid colour!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLbV7LB8k2c

[ChocolateFrog]

ajprice said:

If the price of the Spring is just below or around £20k, it will be close to the new Citroen C3 EV at just over £20k which is a bit bigger at 4m long (vs 3.7m), with 113bhp (vs 65bhp) and around 200 mile WLTP range (vs 137 miles).

It'll be nearer to 15 than 20 for the cheapest version.

[Truckosaurus]

I like how Jonny is enthusiastic about the new EVs but isn't evangelical about them.

Although I agree with the previous poster asking why dull EVs are considered more worthy than dull ICEs. At least in the case of the R5 it seems an interesting design based on a new platform.

Of all the different YT channels he seems to be one of the few to be able to successfully cover multiple segments of our hobby - new cars, EV, classics, barn finds, project builds, etc.

[WPA]

Interesting barn find on the Mini's, not sure why Jonny kept calling the later one a Mini One Cooper also does anybody else cringe when he washes a barn find then puts it back in a damp garage.