Forensics: The Real CSI. BBC2
Discussion
Legacywr said:
There are programs out there about the companies who come around and clean up after this sort of thing...
Yep and I guess you routinely don't tend to open old freezers because of the possibility of finding dead animals or at worst humans.Regards this show did anyone else think the guy sounded gay? Was there an element of a relationship, i mean they knew each other for over 20 years.
I doubted the guy killed him, but the rest of it i.e. the fraud deserved longer than 2 years in prison IMO...
fourstardan said:
Kamov said:
Regards this show did anyone else think the guy sounded gay? Was there an element of a relationship, i mean they knew each other for over 20 years.
I doubted the guy killed him, but the rest of it i.e. the fraud deserved longer than 2 years in prison IMO...
WTF I doubted the guy killed him, but the rest of it i.e. the fraud deserved longer than 2 years in prison IMO...
I'm a massive cynic and I can't understand why a person would want to spend his time caring for a bloke who wasn't his Dad, so if he was romantically involved it would make more sense to me.
Aside from that it was then, simply to just take a carers allowance.... in that instance I'd rather get a job.
Kamov said:
Well if they were in a relationship then it could add a different light to it no?
I'm a massive cynic and I can't understand why a person would want to spend his time caring for a bloke who wasn't his Dad, so if he was romantically involved it would make more sense to me.
Aside from that it was then, simply to just take a carers allowance.... in that instance I'd rather get a job.
He was also taking the guys pension as well as he had access to the accounts. On the bank statement shown the monthly payment of Wolverhampton CC is a pension from West Midlands pension fund so at some time would have worked for a local authority. I'm a massive cynic and I can't understand why a person would want to spend his time caring for a bloke who wasn't his Dad, so if he was romantically involved it would make more sense to me.
Aside from that it was then, simply to just take a carers allowance.... in that instance I'd rather get a job.
Kamov said:
Well if they were in a relationship then it could add a different light to it no?
I'm a massive cynic and I can't understand why a person would want to spend his time caring for a bloke who wasn't his Dad, so if he was romantically involved it would make more sense to me.
Aside from that it was then, simply to just take a carers allowance.... in that instance I'd rather get a job.
I think fourstardan's childish micro-aggression was because you alluded that a person can sound gay, I'm a massive cynic and I can't understand why a person would want to spend his time caring for a bloke who wasn't his Dad, so if he was romantically involved it would make more sense to me.
Aside from that it was then, simply to just take a carers allowance.... in that instance I'd rather get a job.
a homo-related faux pas of unimaginable magnitude, please check the heavens have not fallen in in your locality.
I watched a US criminal trial where a witness stated the anonymous caller " sounded black " the defence lawyer objected and the judge sagely announced to the jury to disregard the remark.
Turned out the caller was black, the witness was entirely correct.
LARK F1 GTR said:
The bloke was really strange. He didn't even plug it in! Basically he could have done things properly but knew that his meal ticket would be gone then.
If the older guy was on the system for dementia, one has to wonder why no-one, a nurse, a GP, a Social Worker, a therapist visited his home, and if they did, and never got entry because of this weird guy, why was this not flagged up and a welfare check instigated ? As someone said, a failure all round, no-one was looking out for the old guy.
Nethybridge said:
I think fourstardan's childish micro-aggression was because you alluded that a person can sound gay,
a homo-related faux pas of unimaginable magnitude, please check the heavens have not fallen in in your locality.
I watched a US criminal trial where a witness stated the anonymous caller " sounded black " the defence lawyer objected and the judge sagely announced to the jury to disregard the remark.
Turned out the caller was black, the witness was entirely correct.
Yes without going off topic, I did think before i posted, but ultimately there is nothing wrong with being gay so stands to reason that there isn't anything wrong with suggesting someone might sound gay.a homo-related faux pas of unimaginable magnitude, please check the heavens have not fallen in in your locality.
I watched a US criminal trial where a witness stated the anonymous caller " sounded black " the defence lawyer objected and the judge sagely announced to the jury to disregard the remark.
Turned out the caller was black, the witness was entirely correct.
By that logic actually a gay person should be offended if someone said they sounded straight, which would be silly....
I went to Art college and dressed as i wanted and it wasn't totally normal lets say, a lot of friends were gay and apparently I acted, looked and sounded gay according to pretty much everyone.
I even got knocked out by a track suited chav in my 20's because he took offence to my cowboy hat and white t shirt combo and called me a "effin gay
"Instead of desperately saying no no you have it wrong Mr, please let me pass for i am in fancy dress and really I'm a proper straight bloke who likes to treat women like s
te, what i actually said was along the lines of "I am yes and as I don't shag ugly b
ds your out of luck"Now i could of made that up, but i didn't. Knocked out, clean, not ashamed to say, the point was i stood up to him.
So yes i won't be preached at by this new breed of overly offended, as all my gay friends, were gay, i don't ever remember a gay person ever saying the word homosexual let alone being worried if someone thought they sounded gay...
Me personally in my 20's liked the fact people thought i was gay, it was a great way to chat girls up as you could be 10 minutes into a chat up conversation at they would of given you the time due to the fact they assumed I'm a harmless gay guy, by that point your in.... you explain your actually straight, but not like most blokes, party on....
Edited by Kamov on Saturday 16th March 07:56
Nethybridge said:
I think fourstardan's childish micro-aggression was because you alluded that a person can sound gay,
a homo-related faux pas of unimaginable magnitude, please check the heavens have not fallen in in your locality.
No it wasn't you twonk, it was because the theory made absolutely fk all sense. a homo-related faux pas of unimaginable magnitude, please check the heavens have not fallen in in your locality.
fourstardan said:
No it wasn't you twonk, it was because the theory made absolutely fk all sense.
The theory does make sense as if he was romantically involved for 20 years with the fella then it would shed a different light on it and his actions after his death. It would move it away from the abusing someone trust and nicking the money, to more of a man grieving for his partner after spending 20 years pretending they weren't in a relationship.If this scenario were true, as I see it he would have every right to the mans pension and would be named on the flat etc.....
So yes it would be relevant IMO, very much so as i would for sure have sympathy for him rather than just thinking he was thinking through a long plan to get someone's flat and money...
Kamov said:
fourstardan said:
No it wasn't you twonk, it was because the theory made absolutely fk all sense.
The theory does make sense as if he was romantically involved for 20 years with the fella then it would shed a different light on it and his actions after his death. It would move it away from the abusing someone trust and nicking the money, to more of a man grieving for his partner after spending 20 years pretending they weren't in a relationship.If this scenario were true, as I see it he would have every right to the mans pension and would be named on the flat etc.....
So yes it would be relevant IMO, very much so as i would for sure have sympathy for him rather than just thinking he was thinking through a long plan to get someone's flat and money...
Kamov said:
The theory does make sense as if he was romantically involved for 20 years with the fella then it would shed a different light on it and his actions after his death. It would move it away from the abusing someone trust and nicking the money, to more of a man grieving for his partner after spending 20 years pretending they weren't in a relationship.
If this scenario were true, as I see it he would have every right to the mans pension and would be named on the flat etc.....
So yes it would be relevant IMO, very much so as i would for sure have sympathy for him rather than just thinking he was thinking through a long plan to get someone's flat and money...
He was already his named carer and took money on the swindle before he killed him!If this scenario were true, as I see it he would have every right to the mans pension and would be named on the flat etc.....
So yes it would be relevant IMO, very much so as i would for sure have sympathy for him rather than just thinking he was thinking through a long plan to get someone's flat and money...
If he was his civil partner surely he'd had got fk all benefits.
I doubt you'd go down very well if you ever get assigned on a jury panel.
fourstardan said:
He was already his named carer and took money on the swindle before he killed him!
If he was his civil partner surely he'd had got fk all benefits.
I doubt you'd go down very well if you ever get assigned on a jury panel.
Says the guy who is so sure he killed him..... have a word with yourself... he was found guilty of fraud and got 2 years, so according to you the police and jury got it wrong...If he was his civil partner surely he'd had got fk all benefits.
I doubt you'd go down very well if you ever get assigned on a jury panel.
It seemed pretty obvious to me that he didn't kill him, the facial deformities were from where he went into the fridge but he was already dead at this point from natural causes...
Not sure you understand how jury service works either......
Edited by Kamov on Sunday 17th March 22:26
Guy with the pony tail skin head combo looked like a character from GTA.
The bit where drone guy said he saw him throw something and they pick up some rusty old peg, that seemed weird, surely it was a phone?
Yet they went off with a rusty peg that had nothing to do with it...
Surprised they didn't go back with a wheelie bin...
"he's threw something"
"OK i can see a car here, I'll bring it in..."
The bit where drone guy said he saw him throw something and they pick up some rusty old peg, that seemed weird, surely it was a phone?
Yet they went off with a rusty peg that had nothing to do with it...
Surprised they didn't go back with a wheelie bin...
"he's threw something"
"OK i can see a car here, I'll bring it in..."
Eric Mc said:
Does the nationality matter to you?
Every successful business person that happens to of been an immigrant it seems to matter to them and boy do we hear about it, guess if you play the representation game, you don't get to chose who people have as your representation in their minds.It shouldn't matter, but it does and the positive ones we'd shout loudly about them being immigrants, so if they are wrong uns, same applies.
I very much doubt any normal Polish man would stick up for this guy same way as I'd not stick up for some English bloke......
I will add though that if we rounded up all our criminal chavs and piled them off to Poland, I'm not sure we'd expect many people in Poland to have a good opinion of 'us'.
Let alone that any country would allow them in, in the first place.
Edited by Kamov on Thursday 21st March 14:17
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