Do you pay your TV licence fee?
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I do currently pay for the license but will stop if they continue to push programming to iPlayer as it doesn’t have accessibility options, just like the majority of streaming services.
They (and others) should be embarrassed when sourcing via other means is easier, more flexible, and offers accessibility features.
They (and others) should be embarrassed when sourcing via other means is easier, more flexible, and offers accessibility features.
I dont pay it, dont watch bbc or use the radio at all, seems they always have an agenda, plus i dont like the model, make it a subscription service, but they wont as they know full well it isnt worth the money compared to the competition, something they arent used to. And the begging letters go in the bin unopened, tesco dont try to charge me if i dont shop there, but the bbc try, just wrong.
Cotty said:
The Road Crew said:
To those who don't pay - do you you get much grief from TV licensing?
No they have never visited. I just bin the unopened letters every month.Ashfordian said:
No. You simply have to declare you no longer watch live TV via the TV licensing website. (Or follow the link on the letters you will start receiving upon stopping your payment)
Start here - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-on...
But we should not have to. People who don't own a car don't have to declare that they don't need a road fund licence every two years.Start here - https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-on...
Dingu said:
Yeah, everyone knows you should just quote the Magna Carta if anyone comes to check. It’s much less hassle 
No you just close the door on them. Its unnecessary harrasment.You own a device capable of showing live TV. You must do, as whatever you use to access PH is capable of it.
Filling out a form to say you don't use that device to watch live TV is precisely the same concept as owning a car and SORNing it to say you don't use it on the road.
Tom8 said:
No. I used to love the BBC and its output but there is so little now that I can associate with. BBC Radio comedy used to be groundbreaking but now the same old collection of BBC faces and the usual PC "Islington" appeal comedy. BBC TV comedy, there isn't any.
Radio 2 can now only listen to the great Ken Bruce.
Drama and documentary so deliberately diverse it distracts from what could be good drama.
David Attenborough banging on about us all burning in a fire ball of death because "global warming"
The last straw was TMS. The last bastion of a place for blokes to enjoy, but no, has to be invaded by women to satisfy the figures of diversity.
BBC news, I don't buy the neutrality argument. That is impossible. What we don't want or need is commentary or opinion, just the facts, the news.
The only thing I like is there are no ads and it is cheap, however there is no longer anything in it for me.
That has to be without doubt the most middle class Incel post ever made on the Internet!Radio 2 can now only listen to the great Ken Bruce.
Drama and documentary so deliberately diverse it distracts from what could be good drama.
David Attenborough banging on about us all burning in a fire ball of death because "global warming"
The last straw was TMS. The last bastion of a place for blokes to enjoy, but no, has to be invaded by women to satisfy the figures of diversity.
BBC news, I don't buy the neutrality argument. That is impossible. What we don't want or need is commentary or opinion, just the facts, the news.
The only thing I like is there are no ads and it is cheap, however there is no longer anything in it for me.
I can't decide whether it's hilariously funny or desperately sad. Just how insecure must you feel to be threatened by the presence of women on a cricket programme?
Kermit power said:
Regardless of whether or not you believe the TV licence is justified, that comparison is incorrect.
You own a device capable of showing live TV. You must do, as whatever you use to access PH is capable of it.
Filling out a form to say you don't use that device to watch live TV is precisely the same concept as owning a car and SORNing it to say you don't use it on the road.
There is no requirement to tell the BBC you don’t need a TV licence. You own a device capable of showing live TV. You must do, as whatever you use to access PH is capable of it.
Filling out a form to say you don't use that device to watch live TV is precisely the same concept as owning a car and SORNing it to say you don't use it on the road.
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-on...
No TV? Not watching TV live on any channel or service, or BBC iPlayer*? Empty property? You can let us know here by completing a No Licence Needed declaration.
Note “can” not “must”. If it was a requirement you can bet they’d make that clear.
The licence is hopelessly outdated in the digital age. I don’t have a TV licence, my partner does at her house. When she’s at mine she can watch programmes on her iPad as long as it’s on battery power. If she plugs it in, a TV licence is required. I understand the logic but enforcement of this is impossible.
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ129
Have a look at the iplayer app on the App Store. No mention in the app description of the requirement to buy a TV licence before using it. And no attempt to verify a user actually does have a TV licence. Why not?
page3 said:
I do currently pay for the license but will stop if they continue to push programming to iPlayer as it doesn’t have accessibility options, just like the majority of streaming services.
They (and others) should be embarrassed when sourcing via other means is easier, more flexible, and offers accessibility features.
It does have accessibility options according to this https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/features/accessibili...They (and others) should be embarrassed when sourcing via other means is easier, more flexible, and offers accessibility features.
Is the problem that the coverage isn’t great, or you need something else?
Oh dear kermit do you work for Crapita by chance?
You do not have to buy a licence simply because you own a device that might or can receive any live tv content., that is the brainwash they hope you fall for.
They have to PROVE you have been watching it and they can only do that if you admit or or they have seen you watching it, there is no way (unless you a re hopelessly dumb and have SKY etc yet dont pay the licence fee) they can do this simply by presuming you are watching it, this is basically a crime so there has to be PROOF.
Your analogy is a good idea.
It would be like being forced to pass a driving test despite never wanting to own a car, why should you be forced to do something you are never going to do just because you might?
You do not have to buy a licence simply because you own a device that might or can receive any live tv content., that is the brainwash they hope you fall for.
They have to PROVE you have been watching it and they can only do that if you admit or or they have seen you watching it, there is no way (unless you a re hopelessly dumb and have SKY etc yet dont pay the licence fee) they can do this simply by presuming you are watching it, this is basically a crime so there has to be PROOF.
Your analogy is a good idea.
It would be like being forced to pass a driving test despite never wanting to own a car, why should you be forced to do something you are never going to do just because you might?
We pay our license fee and consider it good value.
I do get peed off when I’m prevented from watching or streaming the BBC because I’m in another country. I’ve paid for that content and should be able to view it when I want.
I know I can get around that with a VPN but I shouldn’t need to.
I do get peed off when I’m prevented from watching or streaming the BBC because I’m in another country. I’ve paid for that content and should be able to view it when I want.
I know I can get around that with a VPN but I shouldn’t need to.
Kermit power said:
Cotty said:
But we should not have to. People who don't own a car don't have to declare that they don't need a road fund licence every two years.
Regardless of whether or not you believe the TV licence is justified, that comparison is incorrect.You own a device capable of showing live TV. You must do, as whatever you use to access PH is capable of it.
Filling out a form to say you don't use that device to watch live TV is precisely the same concept as owning a car and SORNing it to say you don't use it on the road.
Cotty said:
Kermit power said:
Cotty said:
But we should not have to. People who don't own a car don't have to declare that they don't need a road fund licence every two years.
Regardless of whether or not you believe the TV licence is justified, that comparison is incorrect.You own a device capable of showing live TV. You must do, as whatever you use to access PH is capable of it.
Filling out a form to say you don't use that device to watch live TV is precisely the same concept as owning a car and SORNing it to say you don't use it on the road.
Like it or not, TVL will send you letters if there’s no TV licence for the address, because odds are very good that every address in the UK either has a TV or internet access.
If you want to stop them sending you letters, you can tell them on line that you don’t need a licence, and they’ll stop for 2 years. Then, as I’ve recently found out, it seems they send you a letter to confirm nothing has changed, and you spend another 30 seconds on line telling them again that you don’t need a licence. Job done.
Or you can not do that, and bin the letters. Seems better all round to me to short cut it all, but it’s not mandatory. I’m sure some get a sense of satisfaction that they’re costing them money for the letters they send, for example.
Are they a bit shady in their word use? Yes - there’s a lot of language in the letter that isn’t clear, and might make you wonder if you need a licence even when you don’t. There are also some dire warnings about the cost of being caught, and a suggestion that they might send someone around to check. That’s fine by me - they can send someone around, and I’ll tell them to bugger off.
I haven’t had one for years but paid in December as there were a few broadcasts I wanted to watch over Christmas
I also just wanted to gauge whether it was worth having or not as it’s been 7-8 years since I last watched live TV. I have a 4 year now and thought nostalgically that he might be interested in some of the kids content on iPlayer. Nope.
So far I haven’t watched anything that makes me think it will be worth renewing again in December.
I didn’t have a problem with making their declaration every 2 years either - better than getting their endless spam through the letterbox.
I also just wanted to gauge whether it was worth having or not as it’s been 7-8 years since I last watched live TV. I have a 4 year now and thought nostalgically that he might be interested in some of the kids content on iPlayer. Nope.
So far I haven’t watched anything that makes me think it will be worth renewing again in December.
I didn’t have a problem with making their declaration every 2 years either - better than getting their endless spam through the letterbox.
DanL said:
That’s not how I read what he’s saying.
Like it or not, TVL will send you letters if there’s no TV licence for the address, because odds are very good that every address in the UK either has a TV or internet access.
If you want to stop them sending you letters, you can tell them on line that you don’t need a licence, and they’ll stop for 2 years. Then, as I’ve recently found out, it seems they send you a letter to confirm nothing has changed, and you spend another 30 seconds on line telling them again that you don’t need a licence. Job done.
Just because I have the ability to do something does not mean I am doing it or should have to tell people I am not doing it. If I had a fishing rod I don't need a fishing licence if im not using it or need to tell people im not using it. I have knives in my kitchen but I don't have to make a yearly declaration to the police that I am not stabbing anyone.Like it or not, TVL will send you letters if there’s no TV licence for the address, because odds are very good that every address in the UK either has a TV or internet access.
If you want to stop them sending you letters, you can tell them on line that you don’t need a licence, and they’ll stop for 2 years. Then, as I’ve recently found out, it seems they send you a letter to confirm nothing has changed, and you spend another 30 seconds on line telling them again that you don’t need a licence. Job done.
Cotty said:
DanL said:
That’s not how I read what he’s saying.
Like it or not, TVL will send you letters if there’s no TV licence for the address, because odds are very good that every address in the UK either has a TV or internet access.
If you want to stop them sending you letters, you can tell them on line that you don’t need a licence, and they’ll stop for 2 years. Then, as I’ve recently found out, it seems they send you a letter to confirm nothing has changed, and you spend another 30 seconds on line telling them again that you don’t need a licence. Job done.
Just because I have the ability to do something does not mean I am doing it or should have to tell people I am not doing it. If I had a fishing rod I don't need a fishing licence if im not using it or need to tell people im not using it. I have knives in my kitchen but I don't have to make a yearly declaration to the police that I am not stabbing anyone.Like it or not, TVL will send you letters if there’s no TV licence for the address, because odds are very good that every address in the UK either has a TV or internet access.
If you want to stop them sending you letters, you can tell them on line that you don’t need a licence, and they’ll stop for 2 years. Then, as I’ve recently found out, it seems they send you a letter to confirm nothing has changed, and you spend another 30 seconds on line telling them again that you don’t need a licence. Job done.
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