Discussion
thegreenhell said:
For comparison, how do people feel about restored classic cars, or just older cars in general, which have had rusty sills, floors and other key structural parts replaced and welded by non-expert men in sheds or local MOT garages without any use of a chassis jig to line anything up? How is that any different, yet it happens everywhere every day without people going on the internet to say it's unsafe and they'd never get in a car repaired like that?
You've asked a question and then answered it. With assumptions to suit your point which seems somewhat closed.People are concerned about the provenance of classic cars which is exactly why original unmolested cars which can demonstrate that they are unmolested command more. Some are passed off as unmolested which is also the case with modern stuff - the insurance classification system reduces that possibility.
Some here seem to be getting confused between a bodge and the best possible practical repair. The best practical repair very often isn't as good as the OEM.
The M3 is a case in hand. Matt seemed well intentioned and the car might not end up being a pile of crap but it will never be as good as OEM.
Pistom said:
The M3 is a case in hand. Matt seemed well intentioned and the car might not end up being a pile of crap but it will never be as good as OEM.
Apologies if you've already answered this previously, but why won't it ever be as good as OEM? The repair he has done, is the same as a BMW Approved repair centre would've done. Unless I've misunderstood you and you're saying that even if BMW repaired it, it still wouldn't be as good as when it was brand new, which I can sort of agree with. Discendo Discimus said:
Pistom said:
The M3 is a case in hand. Matt seemed well intentioned and the car might not end up being a pile of crap but it will never be as good as OEM.
Apologies if you've already answered this previously, but why won't it ever be as good as OEM? The repair he has done, is the same as a BMW Approved repair centre would've done. Unless I've misunderstood you and you're saying that even if BMW repaired it, it still wouldn't be as good as when it was brand new, which I can sort of agree with. When the car was originally built, it went through a process of being assembled from shaped panels that were from individual pressings. These were in turn spot welded, bonded or jointed together to form and engineered monocoque. The corrosion resistance will have been applied in a manner which would have been both extensive and uniform.
When a car is picked apart at the welds in the way Matt (or any other decent repairer) would do, the flanges will be deformed or distorted to some extent, some panels will have butt welds on them which would have previously been continuous panels which will change the properties of how the car behaves in a collision, corrosion resistance will be compromised because of the limitations of the ability to access everything. That's ignoring the likelihood of abrasive materials or grinding/welding materials getting into places you will never be able to get them out of.
His McLaren build wouldn't have suffered any of this as he used what was for all intents and purposes a new tub but with steel monocoques, unless you're using a steel monocoque replacement, it won't be the same as OEM.
Discendo Discimus said:
Pistom said:
The M3 is a case in hand. Matt seemed well intentioned and the car might not end up being a pile of crap but it will never be as good as OEM.
Apologies if you've already answered this previously, but why won't it ever be as good as OEM? The repair he has done, is the same as a BMW Approved repair centre would've done. Unless I've misunderstood you and you're saying that even if BMW repaired it, it still wouldn't be as good as when it was brand new, which I can sort of agree with. Stussy said:
SydneyBridge said:
I did a quick search and it looks like a non Mansory cover, so he'd be much better off buying a blue one listed for half the price of this one!https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125124034396
Not watched the latest video yet as in Florida and saving it for the flight home 
to give an understanding of the exposure and extra audience the rashford car has given Mat, my 14 year old nephew just piped up yesterday asking who the youtuber I watched about cars, said it was Mat as I knew he supported man u and it would be about the RR and he said he was going to watch it later. (he has no interest in cars but supports man u, he said he saw it in the sun!)
to give an understanding of the exposure and extra audience the rashford car has given Mat, my 14 year old nephew just piped up yesterday asking who the youtuber I watched about cars, said it was Mat as I knew he supported man u and it would be about the RR and he said he was going to watch it later. (he has no interest in cars but supports man u, he said he saw it in the sun!) InformationSuperHighway said:
I liked the way he dealt with that absolute chancer who picked up the wing mirror cap from the crash site and tried to sell for a grand 
It's on ebay for £5,000 now.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404883070346?_trkparms=...
Yep - I enjoyed the MOT, problem back light video.
Now that a few have commented on being annoyed by his dad's cackle, I can understand why it bothers some.
I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
It reminds me a bit of a time I was sat in my dads new Jag when he was in his 80s. We were driving down a farm track and he was telling me that the last time he'd been down that track, he was 9 years old and, walking to school in the snow with no shoes as they couldn't afford them.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Now that a few have commented on being annoyed by his dad's cackle, I can understand why it bothers some.
I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
It reminds me a bit of a time I was sat in my dads new Jag when he was in his 80s. We were driving down a farm track and he was telling me that the last time he'd been down that track, he was 9 years old and, walking to school in the snow with no shoes as they couldn't afford them.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Pistom said:
Yep - I enjoyed the MOT, problem back light video.
I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Agreed, it did make me chuckle though.. does an MOT tester get any friendlier than that I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Interesting that he was there just before lock down and look at him now.
InformationSuperHighway said:
Pistom said:
Yep - I enjoyed the MOT, problem back light video.
I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Agreed, it did make me chuckle though.. does an MOT tester get any friendlier than that I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Interesting that he was there just before lock down and look at him now.
pingu393 said:
InformationSuperHighway said:
Pistom said:
Yep - I enjoyed the MOT, problem back light video.
I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Agreed, it did make me chuckle though.. does an MOT tester get any friendlier than that I loved him sitting in his old chair and talking about his time there.
Nice to see people come a long way.
Interesting that he was there just before lock down and look at him now.
WPA said:
jeff666 said:
Latest vid just popped up on YT,
astonishingly high numbers of viewers in just an hour or so, over 300K
A fair bit of info on the crash and why the roller isn't recorded.
£97k for a fully working parts / donor car, crazyastonishingly high numbers of viewers in just an hour or so, over 300K
A fair bit of info on the crash and why the roller isn't recorded.
Mansory prices are eye watering though.
WPA said:
Never see an issue with it if done properly but again so many get bodged, some true horror stories around
A pick up truck went past us today on the M5, the back was so far out of line to the front that I saw it in my mirror, he was in the outside lane we were in the middle, he was happily doing 80 ish totally oblivious to the fact he was driving a possible death trap.It was possibly one of the worst I have seen.
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