Mat armstrong

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untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Looks like car vertical aren't sponsoring these anymore as most the cars won't flag up as crash damaged due to the circumvention of the crash damage being reported/categorized.

Can't see second hand buyer paying a premium for non oem cosmetic mods tbh so doubt it's really worth that much, unless I'm missing something a quick look on auto trader shows '16 facelift Wraith's with 50k miles starting at £100k?



WPA

8,881 posts

115 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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untakenname said:
Looks like car vertical aren't sponsoring these anymore as most the cars won't flag up as crash damaged due to the circumvention of the crash damage being reported/categorized.

Can't see second hand buyer paying a premium for non oem cosmetic mods tbh so doubt it's really worth that much, unless I'm missing something a quick look on auto trader shows '16 facelift Wraith's with 50k miles starting at £100k?
With the Mansory additions it was £700k by all accounts, value will not matter as I suspect it will be raffled once finished

liner33

10,701 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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PinkHouse said:
What was the highest value or most bespoke vehicle you wrote off?
My mate crashed into HMS Broadsword (Type 22 Frigate)

He was driving a hiab and the support leg slid out and hit the gangplank ripping it out of the deck of the ship. He was prosecuted for driving without due care and the Navy wanted blood but cleared after hiring a QC who pointed out that the gangplank was not the approved type, stuck out too far onto the dock and wasn't correctly marked.



was8v

1,945 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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So many people missing the point of this:

Matt Armstrong is a story teller, He is selling a story.

This awful abomination of a car representing everything thats unequal about this world is an interesting story.

It would be dull as dishwater to rebuilt a crashed boggo rolls back to standard.

Equally it would be cheaper to go buy a boggo wraith used.

The appeal of this car is that is was Rashford's Rolls. It was custom designed for him and its a 1/1

The story is the custom unfathomably expensive car bought by a footballer, crashed with a dodgy back story and weird insurance shenanigans, fixed by a bloke in a shed sourcing parts from all over.

Without the story no one would be watching this and Matt wouldn't be raking it in.

Griffith4ever

4,301 posts

36 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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I really enjoy all the MA stuff but this one is.... well... it's all just a bit "made up". People who buy and spec cars like the RR via Mansory don't give a st about money, or value. They also don't buy used cars. So as we all know, it's not going back on the market for £600k.... so, it'll be raffled or bought back by the footballer.

Just all doesn't feel very genuine, plus, none of the carbon fibre tat is actually "worth" any of the numbers being thrown around. And as for the interior..... it's all a bit tacky for me.

SydneyBridge

8,657 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Whatever we all think, it is working
5.3m views for first video, 8 days ago
2.2m in 17 hours for the second

What next though....

Guffy

2,311 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Griffith4ever said:
I really enjoy all the MA stuff but this one is.... well... it's all just a bit "made up". People who buy and spec cars like the RR via Mansory don't give a st about money, or value. They also don't buy used cars. So as we all know, it's not going back on the market for £600k.... so, it'll be raffled or bought back by the footballer.

Just all doesn't feel very genuine, plus, none of the carbon fibre tat is actually "worth" any of the numbers being thrown around. And as for the interior..... it's all a bit tacky for me.
I think you're taking it a bit too seriously, its just another form of entertainment... i am entertained, seemingly millions of others are too cool

ChocolateFrog

25,593 posts

174 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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untakenname said:
Looks like car vertical aren't sponsoring these anymore as most the cars won't flag up as crash damaged due to the circumvention of the crash damage being reported/categorized.

Can't see second hand buyer paying a premium for non oem cosmetic mods tbh so doubt it's really worth that much, unless I'm missing something a quick look on auto trader shows '16 facelift Wraith's with 50k miles starting at £100k?
Exactly the worst kind of advertising I'd have thought and I guess a light bulb went on somewhere at CV HQ.

Griffith4ever

4,301 posts

36 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Guffy said:
Griffith4ever said:
I really enjoy all the MA stuff but this one is.... well... it's all just a bit "made up". People who buy and spec cars like the RR via Mansory don't give a st about money, or value. They also don't buy used cars. So as we all know, it's not going back on the market for £600k.... so, it'll be raffled or bought back by the footballer.

Just all doesn't feel very genuine, plus, none of the carbon fibre tat is actually "worth" any of the numbers being thrown around. And as for the interior..... it's all a bit tacky for me.
I think you're taking it a bit too seriously, its just another form of entertainment... i am entertained, seemingly millions of others are too cool
Not at all. Part of the charm has been the genuine nature of it all, him, and the restorations.

Feels it's heading in the "top gear" direction all of a sudden. I do hope I'm wrong.

Pistom

4,979 posts

160 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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SydneyBridge said:
Whatever we all think, it is working
5.3m views for first video, 8 days ago
2.2m in 17 hours for the second

What next though....
It is working on me - that's for sure.

Matt represents everything I feel sums up knob.

A likeable, talented and successful knob but knob nonetheless.

Virtually every car he's done, has been done to levels of taste my imagination couldn't stoop to.

Most of his videos are full of faked trauma and annoying people but I enjoy most of the faked trauma and find I really like the characters around him, even if one of them has a cackle that a Pendle witch would be proud of.

This latest car started out at a taste level that even Matt struggles with and we know it's not going to get better.

Yet, right now - it's my favourite YT series.

He deserves all the success he's getting from this, all the positive exposure.

I can't wait for his next video.

Muzzer79

10,096 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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robemcdonald said:
was8v said:
Plot twist: Rashford loves that 1 of 1 car and buys the completed car back off Armstrong for £500k.
I must admit this thought did occur to me too. He doesn’t care if the car has been crash repaired. He’s only going to crash it again anyway.
Rashford earns £375,000 per week at Manchester United. Plus other personal sponsorship.

Why on earth would he buy back a car that he was in an accident with? He'll just buy a new one if he wants to.




robemcdonald said:
the explanation of the accident sounded dodgy to me.
Sounded perfectly plausible to me.

Muzzer79

10,096 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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untakenname said:
Can't see second hand buyer paying a premium for non oem cosmetic mods tbh so doubt it's really worth that much, unless I'm missing something a quick look on auto trader shows '16 facelift Wraith's with 50k miles starting at £100k?
I'm not sure of the relevance in a comparison between a 2016 Wraith with 50k miles and a 2023 Wraith with 1000 miles.......?

skwdenyer

16,594 posts

241 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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pocketspring said:
Mat Armstrong LTD has equity of 600k but creditors of 800k.
His YouTube channel generates between 10k - 17k per month.
I suspect he financed the business with equity from his properties, so the £800k is owed back to him?

Pistom

4,979 posts

160 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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skwdenyer said:
I suspect he financed the business with equity from his properties, so the £800k is owed back to him?
Can you help me understand that?

The last time I saw Matt talking about his properties - they were all highly financed and I can't imagine he's built up much equity in them in the short time he's had them.

Mr-B

3,787 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Not a ringing endorsement for the "impenetrable" Ghost immobiliser either was it since he got it going without knowing the sequence code.

worsy

5,825 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Pistom said:
skwdenyer said:
I suspect he financed the business with equity from his properties, so the £800k is owed back to him?
Can you help me understand that?

The last time I saw Matt talking about his properties - they were all highly financed and I can't imagine he's built up much equity in them in the short time he's had them.
If you look at the accounts it states

205k Trade Creditor
211k Corp Tax
375k Other creditors



pingu393

7,850 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Risonax said:
WPA said:
if he can sell it.
Kind of key. Plus all the little bits might turn out to be a little different. He's got about £50k in used parts (parts that will sell "relatively" quick) in a £100k used car. The rest might sell, eventually, but I suspect after engine, interior, doors, front panels, wheels, bumpers, whats left will be weighed in.

From the video, it seemed that Rolls Royce were willing to sell him the parts, but he didn't price up what that might be, just a rear wing.

The reality is he needs a fast turn around on a project, because, essentially, its a TV show. In 6 months time, no one will care about Rashford's Roller.
Binky lasted five years and it's still not finished.

simon_harris

1,336 posts

35 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Sadly binky never got close to the viewing figures that MA did, had it done I suspect we would have seen it done much quicker.

EddieSteadyGo

12,054 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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was8v said:
So many people missing the point of this:

Matt Armstrong is a story teller, He is selling a story.

This awful abomination of a car representing everything thats unequal about this world is an interesting story.

It would be dull as dishwater to rebuilt a crashed boggo rolls back to standard.

Equally it would be cheaper to go buy a boggo wraith used.

The appeal of this car is that is was Rashford's Rolls. It was custom designed for him and its a 1/1

The story is the custom unfathomably expensive car bought by a footballer, crashed with a dodgy back story and weird insurance shenanigans, fixed by a bloke in a shed sourcing parts from all over.

Without the story no one would be watching this and Matt wouldn't be raking it in.
Good post.

scsracing

81 posts

96 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Mr-B said:
Not a ringing endorsement for the "impenetrable" Ghost immobiliser either was it since he got it going without knowing the sequence code.
My ghost would allow you to start the car but as soon as you went into drive it would cut out, unless you put the code in. Not sure if it had a max attempts before not starting at all though, never tried it.