Mat armstrong

[Boleros]

pingu393 said:

I hope he has a team helping him, or he'll burn himself out.

Funnily enough, I was thinking exactly the same thing today. He can’t keep up this pace forever, something will have to give at some point, whatever that might look like.

I enjoy his content and I’m probably not his target audience so he’s obviously doing something right. Best of luck to the chap.

[ChocolateFrog]

BandOfBrothers said:

ChocolateFrog said:

So Mansory use Sikaflex to stick all their carbon tat on.

Colour me surprised.

Is there any third party tuning house that actually does high quality work - maybe Singer for Porsche?

I know HKS stuff was pretty poor on Evos- mild steel, restrictive exhausts, poor design of air filters.

I've never seen a Singer or a Tuthill up close or something from the likes of Retropower or Alfaholics.

Their stuff does seem top quality.

The business model from the likes of Mansory, Kahn and all the others probably makes more money.

[m3jappa]

Fair play to the bloke he's very impressive and i have no doubt everyone you see and more are on the payroll. Must take some serious effort doing what he's doing.

One thing i do keep thinking though is he has mentioned selling this rolls and said a couple have offered good money when done (or did i dream that).

But i can't help thinking who would want to buy it? its been repaired with old parts off a much older car. Wouldn't someone paying a few hundred grand want it fixed with new parts?

Of course fixing with all new parts would have cost a fortune but still.

[robemcdonald]

ChocolateFrog said:

BandOfBrothers said:

ChocolateFrog said:

So Mansory use Sikaflex to stick all their carbon tat on.

Colour me surprised.

Is there any third party tuning house that actually does high quality work - maybe Singer for Porsche?

I know HKS stuff was pretty poor on Evos- mild steel, restrictive exhausts, poor design of air filters.

I've never seen a Singer or a Tuthill up close or something from the likes of Retropower or Alfaholics.

Their stuff does seem top quality.

The business model from the likes of Mansory, Kahn and all the others probably makes more money.

I’m not a fan of mansory. I did watch a video on YouTube and the quality of the craftsmanship in their offerings looks to at least be the equal of the other companies you mention.
Design choices? Well that’s another matter.

[Stussy]

To me if all of that MDF looking carbon was gloss black and a body coloured bonnet it would actually look really nice

[simon_harris]

WPA said:

Nope, This is more Mat and this is what I think he will build.

I do rather like that

[was8v]

m3jappa said:

Fair play to the bloke he's very impressive and i have no doubt everyone you see and more are on the payroll. Must take some serious effort doing what he's doing.

One thing i do keep thinking though is he has mentioned selling this rolls and said a couple have offered good money when done (or did i dream that).

But i can't help thinking who would want to buy it? its been repaired with old parts off a much older car. Wouldn't someone paying a few hundred grand want it fixed with new parts?

Of course fixing with all new parts would have cost a fortune but still.

It doesn't matter. The Rolls is paid for now by the vids already.

Its far more important to get the videos out quickly and regularly than worry about resale value, as the income will eclipse it.

[J4CKO]

I hope plenty of younger folk watch this, as even for me, a 53 year old who has been around cars all his life, I am learning stuff and aside from the specifics, just the mentality of dont limit yourself, try stuff and keep trying which applies in all areas of life really.

Starting to look like a car again, good progress.

[Portofino]

I’ve just stumbled across his videos & am enjoying them.

Interesting, good fun & great delivery.

I think ‘Doing a Rashford.’ should become part of PH vocab!

[BandOfBrothers]

was8v said:

m3jappa said:

Fair play to the bloke he's very impressive and i have no doubt everyone you see and more are on the payroll. Must take some serious effort doing what he's doing.

One thing i do keep thinking though is he has mentioned selling this rolls and said a couple have offered good money when done (or did i dream that).

But i can't help thinking who would want to buy it? its been repaired with old parts off a much older car. Wouldn't someone paying a few hundred grand want it fixed with new parts?

Of course fixing with all new parts would have cost a fortune but still.

It doesn't matter. The Rolls is paid for now by the vids already.

Its far more important to get the videos out quickly and regularly than worry about resale value, as the income will eclipse it.

Agreed. None of his cars make financial sense as a standalone project.

Realistically the car would be worth at best half of its list price once repaired and depreciated and he's well over that now just in parts, let alone labour and overheads.

[WPA]

BandOfBrothers said:

was8v said:

m3jappa said:

Fair play to the bloke he's very impressive and i have no doubt everyone you see and more are on the payroll. Must take some serious effort doing what he's doing.

One thing i do keep thinking though is he has mentioned selling this rolls and said a couple have offered good money when done (or did i dream that).

But i can't help thinking who would want to buy it? its been repaired with old parts off a much older car. Wouldn't someone paying a few hundred grand want it fixed with new parts?

Of course fixing with all new parts would have cost a fortune but still.

It doesn't matter. The Rolls is paid for now by the vids already.

Its far more important to get the videos out quickly and regularly than worry about resale value, as the income will eclipse it.

Agreed. None of his cars make financial sense as a standalone project.

Realistically the car would be worth at best half of its list price once repaired and depreciated and he's well over that now just in parts, let alone labour and overheads.

Mat said himself in a previous post that he has buyers interested when finished at £500k so he should be ok.

[BandOfBrothers]

WPA said:

Mat said himself in a previous post that he has buyers interested when finished at £500k so he should be ok.

How much has he spent on the two cars plus parts though, well over £400k surely?

[simon_harris]

Don't forget the YT and advert revenue.

I do note the Maserati appearing in the back of shot all over the place these days as well...

[pocketspring]

I liked the start of video where he states Marcus Rashford crashed the car.

[Muzzer79]

BandOfBrothers said:

WPA said:

Mat said himself in a previous post that he has buyers interested when finished at £500k so he should be ok.

How much has he spent on the two cars plus parts though, well over £400k surely?

The Rashford car was £185k

'Sue' the donor car was £94k

So £279k for the cars. Parts - a lot came from 'Sue' and apart from that, I've seen nothing more than a few grand IIRC. Even if it's £20k so far, he's only up to £300k.

If the whole thing stands him at £400k, he'll still make 100 grand plus whatever he recovers from selling the remains of the donor car and then the YouTube revenue and associated sponsorship on top.

If you can get this YouTube thing right, it's very lucrative.

[Mr Miata]

1. Do people on here really know for certain what YouTube pays? Talking to a guy who has a small channel, he makes next to nothing. Other YouTubers have said their revenue isn’t as good as what people expect.

You can do a Google search for “YouTube revenue” or “how much does YouTube pay per 1000 views” or million views. And the results say $5 to $18 for every 1000 ad views. Therefore a “top” YouTube video with 1 million views can make $5000. Another website calculated that 12 million views would pay $6000 a month.

The key is ad views, not video views. So while you can earn a few beer tokens from YouTube. Chances are you’re not going to make serious money and quit your day job.

2. What about sponsorship and direct advertisement? This assumes that a company has £300,000 to give away. Or is willing to pay that much. I don’t think it’s as simple as people giving you money for nothing.

I don’t see how he can break even. Even with a few million YouTube views. And would anyone with money want to buy that car, when they could afford to buy one in better condition?

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 24th April 13:44

[TroubledSoul]

Mr Miata said:

1. Do people on here really know for certain what YouTube pays? Talking to a guy who has a small channel, he makes next to nothing. Other YouTubers have said their revenue isn’t as good as what people expect.

You can do a Google search for “YouTube revenue” or “how much does YouTube pay per 1000 views” or million views. And the results say $5 to $18 for every 1000 ad views. Therefore a “top” YouTube video with 1 million views can make $5000. Another website calculated that 12 million views would pay $6000 a month.

The key is ad views, not video views. So while you can earn a few beer tokens from YouTube. Chances are you’re not going to make serious money and quit your day job.

2. What about sponsorship and direct advertisement? This assumes that a company has £300,000 to give away. Or is willing to pay that much. I don’t think it’s as simple as people giving you money for nothing.

I don’t see how he can break even. Even with a few million YouTube views. And would anyone with money want to buy that car, when they could afford to buy one in better condition?

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 24th April 13:44

I am part of a small channel and we are doing about 18000 views a month at present, 4.3k hours of watch time, netting us a grand total of £23.59 for the month

I don't know if once you break a certain ceiling they up what you get or what direct sponsorship nets you, I imagine you negotiate those deals independently, but hopefully that gives an idea. We actually put the podcast on Acast as well as the visual Youtube stuff, and that tens to return about £100 a month vs the Youtube income. Hopefully this adds some kind of context despite being a bit vague!

Edited by TroubledSoul on Thursday 25th April 15:36

[Boleros]

Mr Miata said:

1. Do people on here really know for certain what YouTube pays? Talking to a guy who has a small channel, he makes next to nothing. Other YouTubers have said their revenue isn’t as good as what people expect.

You can do a Google search for “YouTube revenue” or “how much does YouTube pay per 1000 views” or million views. And the results say $5 to $18 for every 1000 ad views. Therefore a “top” YouTube video with 1 million views can make $5000. Another website calculated that 12 million views would pay $6000 a month.

The key is ad views, not video views. So while you can earn a few beer tokens from YouTube. Chances are you’re not going to make serious money and quit your day job.

2. What about sponsorship and direct advertisement? This assumes that a company has £300,000 to give away. Or is willing to pay that much. I don’t think it’s as simple as people giving you money for nothing.

I don’t see how he can break even. Even with a few million YouTube views. And would anyone with money want to buy that car, when they could afford to buy one in better condition?

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 24th April 13:44

You found the same figures I did the other day, left me scratching my head as well. I don't think revenue from YouTube video views alone is anywhere near what people think it is, certainly not to buy two Rolls-Royces anyway.

[Muzzer79]

Mr Miata said:

1. Do people on here really know for certain what YouTube pays? Talking to a guy who has a small channel, he makes next to nothing. Other YouTubers have said their revenue isn’t as good as what people expect.

You can do a Google search for “YouTube revenue” or “how much does YouTube pay per 1000 views” or million views. And the results say $5 to $18 for every 1000 ad views. Therefore a “top” YouTube video with 1 million views can make $5000. Another website calculated that 12 million views would pay $6000 a month.

The key is ad views, not video views. So while you can earn a few beer tokens from YouTube. Chances are you’re not going to make serious money and quit your day job.

2. What about sponsorship and direct advertisement? This assumes that a company has £300,000 to give away. Or is willing to pay that much. I don’t think it’s as simple as people giving you money for nothing.

I don’t see how he can break even. Even with a few million YouTube views. And would anyone with money want to buy that car, when they could afford to buy one in better condition?

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 24th April 13:44

1. It's not as simple as (x) number of views brings you £(x) in revenue. It's a much more complicated algorithm, IINM, which depends on many factors.

Ad views is, as you say, a big factor but taking Mat as an example - he quit his day job to become a YouTuber and has two Lamborghinis next to his McLaren, what's your definition of making 'serious money'?

2. Sponsorship is as simple as money for exposure. Mention my product and it will get to your 2m subscribers. I have no idea what they pay.

If he wasn't making money, why/how would he be doing it full time? Same for Shmee150, SeenThroughGlass and all the others - these guys have mortgages and families - they're not doing a full-time Youtube gig for fun.

As to who'll buy the car, there'll be plenty (relatively speaking) Some rich people like to save money too - why spend £700k on a new Mansory one when you can buy one which has been repaired for 30% less?

[WPA]

Muzzer79 said:

Mr Miata said:

1. Do people on here really know for certain what YouTube pays? Talking to a guy who has a small channel, he makes next to nothing. Other YouTubers have said their revenue isn’t as good as what people expect.

You can do a Google search for “YouTube revenue” or “how much does YouTube pay per 1000 views” or million views. And the results say $5 to $18 for every 1000 ad views. Therefore a “top” YouTube video with 1 million views can make $5000. Another website calculated that 12 million views would pay $6000 a month.

The key is ad views, not video views. So while you can earn a few beer tokens from YouTube. Chances are you’re not going to make serious money and quit your day job.

2. What about sponsorship and direct advertisement? This assumes that a company has £300,000 to give away. Or is willing to pay that much. I don’t think it’s as simple as people giving you money for nothing.

I don’t see how he can break even. Even with a few million YouTube views. And would anyone with money want to buy that car, when they could afford to buy one in better condition?

Edited by Mr Miata on Wednesday 24th April 13:44

1. It's not as simple as (x) number of views brings you £(x) in revenue. It's a much more complicated algorithm, IINM, which depends on many factors.

Ad views is, as you say, a big factor but taking Mat as an example - he quit his day job to become a YouTuber and has two Lamborghinis next to his McLaren, what's your definition of making 'serious money'?

2. Sponsorship is as simple as money for exposure. Mention my product and it will get to your 2m subscribers. I have no idea what they pay.

If he wasn't making money, why/how would he be doing it full time? Same for Shmee150, SeenThroughGlass and all the others - these guys have mortgages and families - they're not doing a full-time Youtube gig for fun.

As to who'll buy the car, there'll be plenty (relatively speaking) Some rich people like to save money too - why spend £700k on a new Mansory one when you can buy one which has been repaired for 30% less?

Worth remembering the Mat has other business interests and not just youtube plus his partner owns the raffle company he uses to move the cars on, they raffled the M5 for a bonkers amount of money.