Mr Bates vs The Post Office

[Vasco]

hidetheelephants said:

I have no special knowledge about the honesty or otherwise of PO execs other than as shown in the inquiry, some of the testimony has been purest jackanory; Badenoch on the other hand lies like a cheap watch.

Perhaps you should start a separate Badenoch thread if you have plenty of evidence of all her lies.
Nobody has suggested that she is perfect, or faultless, but at present I'd probably trust her a little more than anybody connected with the Post Office.

[hidetheelephants]

Vasco said:

hidetheelephants said:

I have no special knowledge about the honesty or otherwise of PO execs other than as shown in the inquiry, some of the testimony has been purest jackanory; Badenoch on the other hand lies like a cheap watch.

Perhaps you should start a separate Badenoch thread if you have plenty of evidence of all her lies.
Nobody has suggested that she is perfect, or faultless, but at present I'd probably trust her a little more than anybody connected with the Post Office.

She's the current minister, so she has relevance and she's chosen this as a hill to lie die on.

[Vasco]

hidetheelephants said:

Vasco said:

hidetheelephants said:

I have no special knowledge about the honesty or otherwise of PO execs other than as shown in the inquiry, some of the testimony has been purest jackanory; Badenoch on the other hand lies like a cheap watch.

Perhaps you should start a separate Badenoch thread if you have plenty of evidence of all her lies.
Nobody has suggested that she is perfect, or faultless, but at present I'd probably trust her a little more than anybody connected with the Post Office.

She's the current minister, so she has relevance and she's chosen this as a hill to lie die on.

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

[hidetheelephants]

Vasco said:

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

She lied to parliament about this, she's a disgrace.

[blueg33]

She has certainly misled about trade deals that are not trade deals and are worthless

[hidetheelephants]

The sooner Nolan is actually enforced rather than be optional, with penalties for lying, the better. People like this have no place in elected office.

[Hammersia]

hidetheelephants said:

Vasco said:

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

She lied to parliament about this, she's a disgrace.

Come again? What a bizarre story you've linked, it maybe a few things but it doesn't seem to involve lying? Have you posted the right link?

In the long list of people I want to see crucifed ITT for their complicity in this scandal, she doesn't make the top 1000.

[hidetheelephants]

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Vasco said:

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

She lied to parliament about this, she's a disgrace.

Come again? What a bizarre story you've linked, it maybe a few things but it doesn't seem to involve lying? Have you posted the right link?

In the long list of people I want to see crucifed ITT for their complicity in this scandal, she doesn't make the top 1000.

She told parliament the study in question used phrenology, discredited quackery from the 19th century; it doesn't. Trivial perhaps but a lie nonetheless. As Blueg33 noted, she very recently told whoppers about current trade talks with Canada when there are no such talks.

[Hammersia]

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Vasco said:

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

She lied to parliament about this, she's a disgrace.

Come again? What a bizarre story you've linked, it maybe a few things but it doesn't seem to involve lying? Have you posted the right link?

In the long list of people I want to see crucifed ITT for their complicity in this scandal, she doesn't make the top 1000.

She told parliament the study in question used phrenology, discredited quackery from the 19th century; it doesn't. Trivial perhaps but a lie nonetheless. As Blueg33 noted, she very recently told whoppers about current trade talks with Canada when there are no such talks.

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

[hidetheelephants]

Hammersia said:

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

Yes, she's the minister responsible for the Post Office.

[Hammersia]

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

Yes, she's the minister responsible for the Post Office.

No she isn't.

Your credibility has gone down a notch with me.

[hidetheelephants]

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

Yes, she's the minister responsible for the Post Office.

No she isn't.

Your credibility has gone down a notch with me.

Ok, she's the Secretary of State responsible for the Post Office. It makes all the difference.

[FiF]

Hammersia said:

Come again? What a bizarre story you've linked, it maybe a few things but it doesn't seem to involve lying? Have you posted the right link?

In the long list of people I want to see crucifed ITT for their complicity in this scandal, she doesn't make the top 1000.

Indeed.

[Hammersia]

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

Yes, she's the minister responsible for the Post Office.

No she isn't.

Your credibility has gone down a notch with me.

Ok, she's the Secretary of State responsible for the Post Office. It makes all the difference.

That's like saying Sunak is the Prime Minister responsible for the Post Office.

Kevin Hollinrake is the Minister in charge.

[andyA700]

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Vasco said:

Yes, quite - so why don't you identify all these lies you mention ?

She lied to parliament about this, she's a disgrace.

Come again? What a bizarre story you've linked, it maybe a few things but it doesn't seem to involve lying? Have you posted the right link?

In the long list of people I want to see crucifed ITT for their complicity in this scandal, she doesn't make the top 1000.

I think he has lost his marbles, that article has absolutely nothing to do about anything. I think he needs to start a new thread, where he can enlighten us with examples of Kemi Badenoch's lies.

[andyA700]

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

hidetheelephants said:

Hammersia said:

As others have said, start a thread about it, see how it goes.

Thread is about the Post Office.

Yes, she's the minister responsible for the Post Office.

No she isn't.

Your credibility has gone down a notch with me.

Ok, she's the Secretary of State responsible for the Post Office. It makes all the difference.

The CEO (Head) of the Post Office since 2019, is Nick Read, so the buck stops with him.

[hidetheelephants]

Hammersia said:

That's like saying Sunak is the Prime Minister responsible for the Post Office.

Kevin Hollinrake is the Minister in charge.

He works for her, it's part of her portfolio; why she's waded in and started accusing the former chairman of being a liar isn't clear, perhaps she has a dog at home that she barks for?

[KAgantua]

Guys

Noone cares, off topic

[blueg33]

KAgantua said:

Guys

Noone cares, off topic

How is it off topic? The Governments role in this st show is pretty important.

[cookie1600]

Kevin Hollinrake has said the government would table legislation to immediately quash the convictions of convicted sub-postmasters and Post Office employees. He said the government hoped to have the measures passed by the middle of this year

https://www.ft.com/content/4d660b83-740b-4dac-b784...