Mr Bates vs The Post Office
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This probably won't do Altman any harm, as he'll be known to be willing to turn a blind eye to corrupt practice in order to take a fat fee and there are plenty of businesses wanting to hire a man like that.
I don't think for a second that the lawyers and KCs being shown to be of low moral standards in this inquiry are rare birds, quite the opposite.
I don't think for a second that the lawyers and KCs being shown to be of low moral standards in this inquiry are rare birds, quite the opposite.
Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 8th May 15:37
732NM said:
Watch the whole day now.
Another pompous, arrogant tosspot who didn't give a damn about justice, just bank the cash.
This is supposed to be an elite KC, how many other poor buggers have been let down over his 40 years creaming it in, by such a crappy attitude?
I expect his clients rate him. Perhaps not the 'collateral damage'...like innocent people.Another pompous, arrogant tosspot who didn't give a damn about justice, just bank the cash.
This is supposed to be an elite KC, how many other poor buggers have been let down over his 40 years creaming it in, by such a crappy attitude?
It's not a good look for the profession or the system as a whole is it, we're seeing into a world that we don't normally see, I think we all accept that in civil proceedings the old painting of the lawyer milking the cow as the plaintiffs pull from either end is the reality, but the thought that criminal law is practiced in the same way is very concerning.
It wasn't lost on me that the chair came to the aid of Altman yesterday, I find it unthinkable that a man of his intellect just simply floated through his "terms of reference" without suspecting that the POL had acted terribly and that a massive miscarriage of justice had happened, he was up to his neck in it all the way up to the disgraceful conduct of the appeal case, where eventually it was all laid bare.
simonrockman said:
mikeiow said:
LimmerickLad said:
IMO - "(2) in-house ability to prosecute - losing the necessary objectivity" was a major factor above all, as they just felt they had all the power...and at that time in fact, they did!
AFAIK, they somehow still have that power.Not sure I have seen it stripped?
Clearly they should NO LONGER have that power, and indeed I hope and pray that the Police take action against those who have so clearly shown themselves to have been complicit in ruining so many lives.
I still feel there might only be one scapegoat, which makes me fume: it is one thing to suggest that it is a culture issue, or that they were only assuming people above knew and did the right thing, but so many SPMs (& their families) lives were utterly ruined by the actions of so many individuals, they really do need holding to account: in many cases it feels that jail is too good for them: SPMs have died or taken their own lives over this.
Edited by simonrockman on Tuesday 7th May 20:24
Wills2 said:
It's not a good look for the profession or the system as a whole is it, we're seeing into a world that we don't normally see, I think we all accept that in civil proceedings the old painting of the lawyer milking the cow as the plaintiffs pull from either end is the reality, but the thought that criminal law is practiced in the same way is very concerning.
It wasn't lost on me that the chair came to the aid of Altman yesterday, I find it unthinkable that a man of his intellect just simply floated through his "terms of reference" without suspecting that the POL had acted terribly and that a massive miscarriage of justice had happened, he was up to his neck in it all the way up to the disgraceful conduct of the appeal case, where eventually it was all laid bare.
It wasn't lost on me that the chair came to the aid of Altman yesterday, I find it unthinkable that a man of his intellect just simply floated through his "terms of reference" without suspecting that the POL had acted terribly and that a massive miscarriage of justice had happened, he was up to his neck in it all the way up to the disgraceful conduct of the appeal case, where eventually it was all laid bare.
I'd never seen this, sums up my view perfectly; thanks.
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