The Gentlemen: The Series

[AdeTuono]

WY86 said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

It saddens me to say this but it had more holes than Rebel Moon..

Why go to a dangerous warehouse to steal a car in your own distinctive antique Mercedes. Even someone with half an intelligence knows that.

Letting the weakest link in your drug empire delivery and no one present to question who the stranger woman is who turned up in the facility.

The Scouse gangland kingpin who didn't question at all where his brother was still after the last place he was seen picking up 4m...

Etc etc..

I have to agree, after just learning your cokehead brother is in a huge amount of debt and then evidences he is abit unhinged. why would you then go and show him a huge weed grow on their property?

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

[Antony Moxey]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

Yeah but it’s hardly a Panorama investigation is it?

[AdeTuono]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

You realise that Snatch wasn't a documentary either?

[I-am-the-reverend]

I binged it the other day and thought it was excellent. Typical Guy Ritchie - enough humour to make you overlook a few plot holes.

The Hitler's bk scene was epic.

[Badda]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

It’s classified as a comedy.

[WY86]

I am enjoying it, however the Asian grower who acts like a 15 year old virgin who has just discovered girls is a bit annoying.

[StevieBee]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

You could pour over any film of any genre and find plot holes and things that make no sense in reality. That's because it isn't real. And that's because absolute reality makes for incredibly boring films. Reality may also be altered to accommodate creative intent or support a story arc in a short space of time.

I think you're mistaking The Gentleman for a Biopic in the style of, say Legend. It isn't. It's a comedy. A jape. A piece of fiction designed to entertain - not inform.

Release yourself from minutiae assessment of film and you'll enjoy them far more.

[WY86]

StevieBee said:

You could pour over any film of any genre and find plot holes and things that make no sense in reality. That's because it isn't real. And that's because absolute reality makes for incredibly boring films. Reality may also be altered to accommodate creative intent or support a story arc in a short space of time.

I think you're mistaking The Gentleman for a Biopic in the style of, say Legend. It isn't. It's a comedy. A jape. A piece of fiction designed to entertain - not inform.

Release yourself from minutiae assessment of film and you'll enjoy them far more.

To be fair it is hard to discuss without giving out anything that may be considered a spoiler. however my point is less about plot holes but would you really let your drug addict brother into the secret after those events have just unfolded..

[Discendo Discimus]

WY86 said:

To be fair it is hard to discuss without giving out anything that may be considered a spoiler. however my point is less about plot holes but would you really let your drug addict brother into the secret after those events have just unfolded..

Because it makes for a great story that adds to the drama. It'd be fairly boring if Freddie was put into rehab and we only saw him again at the end when it's all resolved. The same way an in-depth police investigation might take away from the lead characters trying to survive throughout the series.

[StevieBee]

Discendo Discimus said:

WY86 said:

To be fair it is hard to discuss without giving out anything that may be considered a spoiler. however my point is less about plot holes but would you really let your drug addict brother into the secret after those events have just unfolded..

Because it makes for a great story that adds to the drama. It'd be fairly boring if Freddie was put into rehab and we only saw him again at the end when it's all resolved. The same way an in-depth police investigation might take away from the lead characters trying to survive throughout the series.

Exactly.

The Eddie and Freddy thing is about sibling loyalty and love between brothers which is often tested but never falters. This, I would suggest, is an amplified version of what happens in every family. It adds a layer of peril to the story because you never know what Freddy will do next to screw things up.

Plus, I think Daniel Ings plays part superbly.

[Scabutz]

Got two episodes left, have founds its flagged a bit in the middle, I watch an episode and yeah its good but Im not dying to watch the next. Think thats indicative of a lot of TV recently, nothing I have gone wow that was amazing cant wait to watch the next episode. Last thing that did that was probably The Terminal List

[FiF]

Well against the trend I'll watch again, it's ridiculous just like Lock Stock, Snatch etc, but entertaining. Yep comedy villains and some standard tropes but so ruddy what.

I've been struggling through the Real Manhunter, cases where Colin Sutton was SIO or involved. Even though some cases are epic, eg Amelie Delagrange / Milly Dowler and the nicking of Levi Belfield, stuff me some of the others can be a bore fest.

Nice one Guy Ritchie.

[marcosgt]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

...
What I found utterly bizarre was they were trusting a £150m empire to a stoner who smoked weed high off his tits whilst driving a huge delivery of the stuff.
...

I didn't really enjoy Ep 1 much, but tried the second and it was a lot better, I felt.

I just started watching the third, though, and that was absolutely my thought.

I'm not rushing back for more, to be honest.

M

[nismocat]

Binge watched it. Very good and very funny in parts.
I did not recognise Peter Serafinowicz at first and he was so nasty, not like his previous roles.

Shame to see Ray Winston type cast as usual. Always a Cockney fking geeza.

Look forward to the next series.

[Paul Dishman]

It’s supremely daft, but very funny in places. I at the Irish travellers method of weed smuggling.

Enjoyable escapism

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Maybe I was being overly harsh.

[InformationSuperHighway]

Badda said:

Hugo Stiglitz said:

AdeTuono said:

Because it's only a TV program, and made for entertainment?

It's supposed to part gritty gangster/mockney crime series not Marvel..

It’s classified as a comedy.

Indeed, anyone discussing 'plot holes' has totally missed the point.

I enjoyed it.. and like many TV shows, you need to suspend reality from the moment it starts to the moment it ends and just enjoy it.

I hope there is a second series.

[durbster]

XJR500bhp said:

okgo said:

The over blown verbosity of every sentence does my head in. Particularly of Lady Glass.

Couldn’t agree more. It became tedious.

Good series but the above got to me

Yeah I watched the first episode and this is one of the reasons I didn't think much of it. I find Guy Ritchie's dialogue to be like those people who aren't very bright but had a really good education, so they can get away with saying dumb stuff by dressing it up in vocabulary that tricks you into thinking it's smart.

Possibly too early to judge but the characters seem tediously predictable too - his character trait is "scouser"; his character trait is "unstable toff"; her character trait is "ice-cool female" etc.

It all felt very route-one and if it was supposed to be funny, it wasn't to my taste. I dunno if I'll bother with any more.

This may be because I heard Guy Ritchie on a podcast a few years back, and I found him so pretentious that it may have put me off everything he does.

Edited by durbster on Friday 29th March 16:52

[Kneedragger95]

Can anybody shed some light on the use of hugely oversized spectacles for several characters?