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I think the policeman explained perfectly clearly why, once arrested, an individual cannot use a telephone UNTIL the suspect has been brought back to the police station and formally booked in.
Indeed, he also informed the individual that if he needed to leave a message with his father, the policeman could do that for him.
Indeed, he also informed the individual that if he needed to leave a message with his father, the policeman could do that for him.
Eric Mc said:
I think the policeman explained perfectly clearly why, once arrested, an individual cannot use a telephone UNTIL the suspect has been brought back to the police station and formally booked in.
Indeed, he also informed the individual that if he needed to leave a message with his father, the policeman could do that for him.
I understand that. But what is the reason for it? Why did he go mental to get the phone?!Indeed, he also informed the individual that if he needed to leave a message with his father, the policeman could do that for him.
To stop the lad.
He actually said to him a few times to put the phone away but he attempted to continue using the phone. That is why the policeman reached back and grabbed it out of his hand - quite rightly too.
There seems to be a general assumption around these days that everybody has an inalienable right to continue to hold on to their mobile phones and use them even if they are under arrest or caution.
That right doesn't exist.
He actually said to him a few times to put the phone away but he attempted to continue using the phone. That is why the policeman reached back and grabbed it out of his hand - quite rightly too.
There seems to be a general assumption around these days that everybody has an inalienable right to continue to hold on to their mobile phones and use them even if they are under arrest or caution.
That right doesn't exist.
Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 19th February 10:43
NISMOgtr said:
What was with the cop grabbing the kids mobile phone off him as though it was a hand grenade? All he was doing was letting his dad know where he was! Over the top and probably just for the camera.
Just being a jumped up prick I suspect. Obvious to anyone with a brain that young lad was good kid who made a bad judgement, not the local drug dealer trying to alert his mates.DoubleSix said:
Just being a jumped up prick I suspect. Obvious to anyone with a brain that young lad was good kid who made a bad judgement, not the local drug dealer trying to alert his mates.
Was it that obvious at that precise moment in time? Afterwards, it became more clear that the lad was at heart a decent chap - but the police have very good reasons to stop people who have been detained from using phones.And the fact that the young lad continued to use the phone after he had been asked not to would have wound me up to.
Maybe, getting a bit of a scare early on in his drink-driving career might just have saved his life - or more importantly - the lives of others.
It was VERY obvious yes. From his demeanour, attitude, everything!! He was so obviously a well brought up middle class lad you'd have to have to be simple not to clock it straight away - and of course the BIB are pretty good at making these assessments from the smallest of details...
Just another copper following the letter of the law rather than the spirit.
Just another copper following the letter of the law rather than the spirit.
I think that a bit of "tough love" may have paid dividends in this case.
Are you suggesting that because someone is "middle class" they should be treated slightly more genteely?
If the lad never drinks drives again - then I think the cops' attitude in this case was spot on.
In my opinion he was one lucky, lucky boy. I hope he realises this.
Are you suggesting that because someone is "middle class" they should be treated slightly more genteely?
If the lad never drinks drives again - then I think the cops' attitude in this case was spot on.
In my opinion he was one lucky, lucky boy. I hope he realises this.
Eric Mc said:
I think that a bit of "tough love" may have paid dividends in this case.
Are you suggesting that because someone is "middle class" they should be treated slightly more genteely?
If the lad never drinks drives again - then I think the cops' attitude in this case was spot on.
In my opinion he was one lucky, lucky boy. I hope he realises this.
I understand the argument for a bit of tough love in this case, but it sits awkwardly alongside the "pally pally" treatment the Asian fella with the fraudulent insurance documents received. It's almost comes across as bully boy stuff as the young kid was never going to bite back, whereas the Asian fella looked like he could have been a handful if they'd treated him similarly. Are you suggesting that because someone is "middle class" they should be treated slightly more genteely?
If the lad never drinks drives again - then I think the cops' attitude in this case was spot on.
In my opinion he was one lucky, lucky boy. I hope he realises this.
Of course, you well know I'm not suggesting the lad be treated differently for reasons of class, rather I'm suggesting he be treated differently for reasons of common sense - he posed no threat.
Oh, and the title wound me up as well: "Everyday's a school day".
To me, and my possibly out-of-date English lessons, that should read "Every day's a school day". "Everyday" doesn't mean the same as "every day".
(I haven't checked the dictionary, no doubt someone will point me to where that's changed now.)
To me, and my possibly out-of-date English lessons, that should read "Every day's a school day". "Everyday" doesn't mean the same as "every day".
(I haven't checked the dictionary, no doubt someone will point me to where that's changed now.)
DoubleSix said:
I understand the argument for a bit of tough love in this case, but it sits awkwardly alongside the "pally pally" treatment the Asian fella with the fraudulent insurance documents received. It's almost comes across as bully boy stuff as the young kid was never going to bite back, whereas the Asian fella looked like he could have been a handful if they'd treated him similarly.
Of course, you well know I'm not suggesting the lad be treated differently for reasons of class, rather I'm suggesting he be treated differently for reasons of common sense - he posed no threat.
Different individuals.Of course, you well know I'm not suggesting the lad be treated differently for reasons of class, rather I'm suggesting he be treated differently for reasons of common sense - he posed no threat.
Different circumstances.
Different attitude.
On another day in the same circumstances with the same chap, the policeman may have approached the situation differently. On this occasion, he reacted in a particular way - which was totally justified, in my opinion.
Eric Mc said:
DoubleSix said:
I understand the argument for a bit of tough love in this case, but it sits awkwardly alongside the "pally pally" treatment the Asian fella with the fraudulent insurance documents received. It's almost comes across as bully boy stuff as the young kid was never going to bite back, whereas the Asian fella looked like he could have been a handful if they'd treated him similarly.
Of course, you well know I'm not suggesting the lad be treated differently for reasons of class, rather I'm suggesting he be treated differently for reasons of common sense - he posed no threat.
Different individuals.Of course, you well know I'm not suggesting the lad be treated differently for reasons of class, rather I'm suggesting he be treated differently for reasons of common sense - he posed no threat.
Different circumstances.
Different attitude.
On another day in the same circumstances with the same chap, the policeman may have approached the situation differently. On this occasion, he reacted in a particular way - which was totally justified, in my opinion.
Incidentally, what did think of the treatment of the Asian chap? Did you find as cringe-worthy as I did or not?
DoubleSix said:
I find it odd.
A self-confessed career criminal gets treated with back slapping banter. A foolish but otherwise law-abiding lad gets the book read to him. Oh well...
No.A self-confessed career criminal gets treated with back slapping banter. A foolish but otherwise law-abiding lad gets the book read to him. Oh well...
The chap may have been a "career criminal" but on this occasion he was 100% cooperative with the police. I think they acknowledged his cooperation by treating him decently - as every individual is entitled to be treated.
The "law abiding" (your words) chap was actually, at the time, NOT cooperating with the police so they reacted accordingly.
As for being "law abiding", right up to the point where he performed the breath test at the police station, every indication was that he was patently NOT law abiding.
However, that is by the bye. It was his lack of cooperation to a police instruction that caused his problems.
hmmm bit selective there Eric....
I said OTHERWISE law abiding, which clearly acknowledges his transgression on the occasion in question.
I'm not sure swaggering into the station, doing the "no comment" thing safe in the knowledge you can play the system by stating a family member arranged the insurance and you were simply an innocent party to dreadful misunderstanding counts as 'cooperation'. I'd say it counts as completely taking the piss.
Perhaps his natty hairdo and debonair attire blinded you in the same why it has the bib, powerful charms I must admit.
I said OTHERWISE law abiding, which clearly acknowledges his transgression on the occasion in question.
I'm not sure swaggering into the station, doing the "no comment" thing safe in the knowledge you can play the system by stating a family member arranged the insurance and you were simply an innocent party to dreadful misunderstanding counts as 'cooperation'. I'd say it counts as completely taking the piss.
Perhaps his natty hairdo and debonair attire blinded you in the same why it has the bib, powerful charms I must admit.
Edited by DoubleSix on Wednesday 19th February 14:14
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