one for all the ph film buffs, re- the dambusters remake??
Discussion
HPF 75 said:
funk odyssey said:
HPF 75 said:
never in the history of remakes will his dog be called n-i-g-g-e-r if they remake it.
as if it makes a difference!
HPF 75 said:
funk odyssey said:
HPF 75 said:
never in the history of remakes will his dog be called n-i-g-g-e-r if they remake it.
as if it makes a difference!Peter Jackson is completely obsessed with the First World War uniforms, weapons the history aircraft etc etc...
As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 11th January 00:44
From the IMDB site (about the original film). Doesn't bode well:
A cut of the film was spiced up for the American market. Additional scenes of a plane crashing were later removed after it was spotted that Warner Brothers had used WW2 footage of a Flying Fortress.
Gibson's dog "Nigger" was dubbed into "Trigger" for the US market.
The dog used in filming to play the part of
was also called .
A cut of the film was spiced up for the American market. Additional scenes of a plane crashing were later removed after it was spotted that Warner Brothers had used WW2 footage of a Flying Fortress.
Gibson's dog "Nigger" was dubbed into "Trigger" for the US market.
The dog used in filming to play the part of
was also called .Mr Dave said:
Peter Jackson is completely obsessed with the First World War uniforms, weapons the history aircraft etc etc...
As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
Crossing the Line...As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 11th January 00:44
There is a great backstory to that short film. Couple of blokes (well the billionaire founder of Oakley) go and make a revolutionary digital cinema camera (Red One) that uses regular lenses to get that elusive 'flim look' (well, its one factor'. They somehow agree to get Jackson to test out a prototype. So they fly down to NZ with 2 very basic models with only a record and power button expecting to maybe film some trees, a bit of dialogue - nothing too strenuous. Jackson however decides to make this mini WW1 epic with cameramen running around everywhere, pyrotechnics going off everywhere and even ariel footage.
Its the motoring equivalent of Richard Branson building a road car, then giving the prototype to Ross Brawn whom instead of giving it a shakedown test, enters it in the Nurburgring 24hrs with Moss, Fangio and Stewart driving.
So it will be a story how a good looking american wins world war two with an american plane and an american bomb while a token brit wanders around going tally ho. There will be a budget of 27billion billion dollars for the special effects and CGI which will be used for lots and lots of really big explosions and hugely impossible flight scenes. the budget for actors will be huge but they will end up with some big name actors who can't be arsed to act any more and will read the script off an auto cue.
The script itself will off been through the PC machine 28 times to remove anything that might be offensive to anyone and then dumbed down to a point where amerians can understand it
Its going to be crap.
Please please hollywood stop with the remakes you just can't cut the mustard anymore
Just look at the remake of flight of the Phoenix that was awful
And if you even thing of remaking ice cold in alex i will cry
fade to plastic pop song and a few more CGI explosions
The script itself will off been through the PC machine 28 times to remove anything that might be offensive to anyone and then dumbed down to a point where amerians can understand it
Its going to be crap.
Please please hollywood stop with the remakes you just can't cut the mustard anymore
Just look at the remake of flight of the Phoenix that was awful
And if you even thing of remaking ice cold in alex i will cry
fade to plastic pop song and a few more CGI explosions
thehawk said:
Surely the biggest obstacle is that there are just not any decent British actors anymore that could fit the parts.
really?? i thought there were quite a few, in fact i think thay could, and will, cast the best brits available, cant see stephen fry being too pc with the script either..castrolcraig said:
thehawk said:
Surely the biggest obstacle is that there are just not any decent British actors anymore that could fit the parts.
really?? i thought there were quite a few, in fact i think thay could, and will, cast the best brits available, cant see stephen fry being too pc with the script either..Guy Gibson?
Barnes Wallis?
Assorted top brass?
Some of the Lanc crews
I am hopeful the Jackson will correct some of the historical inaccuracies in the original film. For a number of reasons, quite a few "untruths" or "half-truths" were inserted into the original film script.
Gibson did not get the idea of using lights to establish the height of the aircraft over the water by visiting a stage show in London. In fact, it wasn't his idea at all and the technique was already in use by Coastal Command.
Only some of the cres elected to use the "catapult" device to establish their distance from the dams. Some preferred to draw chinagraph markings onto the inside of the nose plexiglass. One dam was attacked parallel to the dam wall so the forward sight system was irrelevant.
The bomb spinning mechanism isn't mentioned in the film once as it was still on the Official Secrets list at the time the original film was made. It only came off the list in 1973. So, how the bomb REALLY worked is never explained in the original.
The aircraft used will be a combination of real Lancasters - there are two flying examples (one in the UK and one in Canada,), interior shots using NX611 at East Kirkby, and special studio based mocked up interiors and CGI.
NX611 is a more accurate representation of a wartime Lancaster as it retains its WW2 single pilot set up. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Lanc was converted to two pilot configuration many years ago and therfore does not look "right" from a cockpit point of view.
One of the problems with shooting inside a Lancaster is that it is extremely confined. Indeed, crews who converted from Stirlings or Halifaxes absolutely hated the Lancaster - at least initially - because of this. It is therefore very difficult to get camera and sound gear and the operators into a Lancaster.
Gibson did not get the idea of using lights to establish the height of the aircraft over the water by visiting a stage show in London. In fact, it wasn't his idea at all and the technique was already in use by Coastal Command.
Only some of the cres elected to use the "catapult" device to establish their distance from the dams. Some preferred to draw chinagraph markings onto the inside of the nose plexiglass. One dam was attacked parallel to the dam wall so the forward sight system was irrelevant.
The bomb spinning mechanism isn't mentioned in the film once as it was still on the Official Secrets list at the time the original film was made. It only came off the list in 1973. So, how the bomb REALLY worked is never explained in the original.
The aircraft used will be a combination of real Lancasters - there are two flying examples (one in the UK and one in Canada,), interior shots using NX611 at East Kirkby, and special studio based mocked up interiors and CGI.
NX611 is a more accurate representation of a wartime Lancaster as it retains its WW2 single pilot set up. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Lanc was converted to two pilot configuration many years ago and therfore does not look "right" from a cockpit point of view.
One of the problems with shooting inside a Lancaster is that it is extremely confined. Indeed, crews who converted from Stirlings or Halifaxes absolutely hated the Lancaster - at least initially - because of this. It is therefore very difficult to get camera and sound gear and the operators into a Lancaster.
it will be interesting to see if it is a "technical" film or a "people" film
I hope it will be the former
I suspect it will be the latter
Will be interesting to see how Gibson is portrayed too --
I hope it will be the former
I suspect it will be the latter
Will be interesting to see how Gibson is portrayed too --
Eric Mc said:
I am hopeful the Jackson will correct some of the historical inaccuracies in the original film. For a number of reasons, quite a few "untruths" or "half-truths" were inserted into the original film script.
Gibson did not get the idea of using lights to establish the height of the aircraft over the water by visiting a stage show in London. In fact, it wasn't his idea at all and the technique was already in use by Coastal Command.
Only some of the cres elected to use the "catapult" device to establish their distance from the dams. Some preferred to draw chinagraph markings onto the inside of the nose plexiglass. One dam was attacked parallel to the dam wall so the forward sight system was irrelevant.
The bomb spinning mechanism isn't mentioned in the film once as it was still on the Official Secrets list at the time the original film was made. It only came off the list in 1973. So, how the bomb REALLY worked is never explained in the original.
The aircraft used will be a combination of real Lancasters - there are two flying examples (one in the UK and one in Canada,), interior shots using NX611 at East Kirkby, and special studio based mocked up interiors and CGI.
NX611 is a more accurate representation of a wartime Lancaster as it retains its WW2 single pilot set up. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Lanc was converted to two pilot configuration many years ago and therfore does not look "right" from a cockpit point of view.
One of the problems with shooting inside a Lancaster is that it is extremely confined. Indeed, crews who converted from Stirlings or Halifaxes absolutely hated the Lancaster - at least initially - because of this. It is therefore very difficult to get camera and sound gear and the operators into a Lancaster.
Gibson did not get the idea of using lights to establish the height of the aircraft over the water by visiting a stage show in London. In fact, it wasn't his idea at all and the technique was already in use by Coastal Command.
Only some of the cres elected to use the "catapult" device to establish their distance from the dams. Some preferred to draw chinagraph markings onto the inside of the nose plexiglass. One dam was attacked parallel to the dam wall so the forward sight system was irrelevant.
The bomb spinning mechanism isn't mentioned in the film once as it was still on the Official Secrets list at the time the original film was made. It only came off the list in 1973. So, how the bomb REALLY worked is never explained in the original.
The aircraft used will be a combination of real Lancasters - there are two flying examples (one in the UK and one in Canada,), interior shots using NX611 at East Kirkby, and special studio based mocked up interiors and CGI.
NX611 is a more accurate representation of a wartime Lancaster as it retains its WW2 single pilot set up. The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Lanc was converted to two pilot configuration many years ago and therfore does not look "right" from a cockpit point of view.
One of the problems with shooting inside a Lancaster is that it is extremely confined. Indeed, crews who converted from Stirlings or Halifaxes absolutely hated the Lancaster - at least initially - because of this. It is therefore very difficult to get camera and sound gear and the operators into a Lancaster.
Lets not forget not all of the crews were British. So scope for others. But I really don't care what nationality the actors are as long as it is as accurate as can be. Even if that means voice coaching a US actor.
Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
jmorgan said:
Lets not forget not all of the crews were British. So scope for others. But I really don't care what nationality the actors are as long as it is as accurate as can be. Even if that means voice coaching a US actor.
Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
we haven't!Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
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