one for all the ph film buffs, re- the dambusters remake??
Discussion
funk odyssey said:
jmorgan said:
Lets not forget not all of the crews were British. So scope for others. But I really don't care what nationality the actors are as long as it is as accurate as can be. Even if that means voice coaching a US actor.
Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
we haven't!Have a copy of flyby somewhere with a write up on the original.
Looking forward to this.
read this thread
It's not likely that they would cast a 25 year old in the role of Gibson. To be honest, the original crews may have been young but they were, in the main, fairly hardened aircrew who had seen quite a bit of action - so they were much more mature in atitude in mind and spirit than the average 25 year old would be today. In fact, Gibson was one of the older flight crew members - although there were a couple who were older. I know one was 33.
617 was typical RAF Bomber Command in its personnel make-up, with crew from the British Isles, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Rhodesia and even the US. I've just finished reading Melvyn "Dinghy" Young's biography who, although English, spent most of his formative years in California and New York so I bet he had an American twang to his accent.
In the film, Young was played by a young George Baker (Inspector Wexford) who is, of course, still with us.
617 was typical RAF Bomber Command in its personnel make-up, with crew from the British Isles, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Rhodesia and even the US. I've just finished reading Melvyn "Dinghy" Young's biography who, although English, spent most of his formative years in California and New York so I bet he had an American twang to his accent.
In the film, Young was played by a young George Baker (Inspector Wexford) who is, of course, still with us.
Mr Dave said:
Peter Jackson is completely obsessed with the First World War uniforms, weapons the history aircraft etc etc...
As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
That looks superb, is it out yet?As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A and a trailer for a short film he's makiing/made about WW1 seems pretty accurate and historically sympathetic.
Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 11th January 00:44
Eric Mc said:
Physically he looks nothing like Gibson. Todd was not THAT dissimilar.
Gibson was quite a small chap with a rather tubby face. He was not the nicest person in the world, by all accounts.
agreed on the lookey likey point, but i think in acting terms daniel craig would be good, has the swagger mannerisms that could help in playing the part, of course he isnt the only person, but it would be interesting to know who you think could play the lead roles eric...Gibson was quite a small chap with a rather tubby face. He was not the nicest person in the world, by all accounts.
funk odyssey said:
HPF 75 said:
never in the history of remakes will his dog be called n-i-g-g-e-r if they remake it.
as if it makes a difference!
, and was suggested by Gibson to honour his beloved dead dog? The Lab to be buried outside Gibson's office at midnight just as they were crossing the coast.It is a serious problem for the new production because was, as has been said, the actual Code Word used to indicate to Scampton that a dam had been knocked over. So, it's not only a "what'll we call the dog?" issue. It's a key word used in the operation.
In reality, the word was tapped out by the Wireless Opeator in the Lancaster using Morse Code so wasn't actually broadcast in verbal form over the airwaves.
Having said that, I'm sure the word was bandied around the radio room with abandon when they received the signal - as depicted in the original film.
was, as has been said, the actual Code Word used to indicate to Scampton that a dam had been knocked over. So, it's not only a "what'll we call the dog?" issue. It's a key word used in the operation.In reality, the word was tapped out by the Wireless Opeator in the Lancaster using Morse Code so wasn't actually broadcast in verbal form over the airwaves.
Having said that, I'm sure the word was bandied around the radio room with abandon when they received the signal - as depicted in the original film.
Bushmaster said:
The dog used in filming to play the part of was also called .
My pet black lab was called was also called . as some childhood tribute to Guy Gibson's - I was 7 when he was given to me and the movie was on the telly. It was not too bad in the early 70's but got a bit iffy into the early 80's. Thankfully he responded to a sharp "come 'ere boy" rather than use his name in public
. A fantastically loyal and obedient mutt and much missed still.
I do hope the remake is sympathetic to both the truth and the original film, and not a U 571 type debacle.
CivicMan said:
Continuing on this as the other thread has been locked already!
Is the Mail on Sunday being deliberately provocative by giving the movie away free with the paper today? And well done the obscenity filter for knocking out the offensive N word!!
Dunno, but I'm about to round it up to watch on the flight on Tuesday. Is the Mail on Sunday being deliberately provocative by giving the movie away free with the paper today? And well done the obscenity filter for knocking out the offensive N word!!
CivicMan said:
Continuing on this as the other thread has been locked already!
Is the Mail on Sunday being deliberately provocative by giving the movie away free with the paper today? And well done the obscenity filter for knocking out the offensive N word!!
Oh, is that what prompted it? Is the Mail on Sunday being deliberately provocative by giving the movie away free with the paper today? And well done the obscenity filter for knocking out the offensive N word!!
There was a thread started on that Friday as well, hence my 'slight' frustration at another Dambusters thread
Apologies, I'm just bored of seeing the same subject being discussed a hundred different times, all the P&P seems to be at the moment is an outpouring of venom agains PC crap (whcih I agree with, just don't think it needs to be in every thread)
Mr Dave said:
Peter Jackson is completely obsessed with the First World War uniforms, weapons the history aircraft etc etc...
As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
There is absolutely no reason on earth to visit Blenheim in Marlborough, North Island in New Zealand. Except that collection. It's pretty impressive, and he's used Sideshow WETA to create rather intricate and detailed dioramas. The town's a hole, mind As far as I remember he done research for some of the companies making scale figures with stuff from his own collection. I have great faith that he wont cock it up as he has a proper interest in those areas.
Found a link so here....
"The most exciting addition to the WWI line is the newly formed collaboration between Sideshow Toy and acclaimed film director Peter Jackson. Peter is currently celebrating the immense success of, "The Fellowship of the Ring," the first film of his three film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord Of The Rings.
Peter is a passionate "Great War" historian and collector and has one of the largest personal collections of uniforms and artifacts from the First World War. His extensive collection contains original uniforms, historical documents, small arms and machine guns and even a collection of British and German fighter planes. "
Los Angeles said:
The new script will reveal how, secretly, the Pentagon was instrumental in helping Barnes Wallis devise the bouncing bomb. The publicity blurb will read, "Without Broolyn-born mathematics geek, Todd Kapowlski, the ..." played by Jack Black.
Shame Don Lafontaine is no longer with us. "In a world with no rules...one man..."
In fact, there were some Americans and Canadians in 617 Squadron so having American accented actors in the film would make it more realistic.
I don't think that this film will suffer from any "Hollywoodisation" of history. I don't think the two driving forces behind it, Jackosn and David Frost, would allow it.
I don't think that this film will suffer from any "Hollywoodisation" of history. I don't think the two driving forces behind it, Jackosn and David Frost, would allow it.
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